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F4rt5
May 20, 2006

WITCHCRAFT posted:

The thing that took me longest was going through my giant pile of poo poo to get rid of stuff I won't listen to anymore, and migrate the keepers to new storage. Sifting through it manually got me back into stuff that I hadn't listened to in a long while and still enjoy. And then since I haven't listened to that artist in years, might as well see if they released new stuff and download that and put it into the "to listen" pile.

I deleted probably half or more of the stuff I got through. Like you said, sometimes it's just some weird poo poo that caught your fancy for a bit but when you listen to it now... no thanks. That one goes in the trash.

If it works for you, streaming music is the most convenient way. My other half has a subscription and they can listen to all the music they want, whenever they want, wherever they want, on any device, with no ads. That's livin' in the future! That's good poo poo!

I used spotify for a while and finding out the song/album/artist you want is not on there happens pretty rarely even if you are a music weird. The thing that made me go back to local storage was when an album would be available, I would add it to my library or playlist, then later when I wanted to listen to it again the license lapsed or something and it was no longer available. You can still see it in your playlist, but it's greyed out and you can't listen to it. It rubs me the wrong way badly enough that I will go back to hoarding my poo poo by hand, even if it takes me so much more time. I like my music enough to waste all that time on it.
This is me, while still using Spotify and YouTube a lot

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doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

doctorfrog posted:

I find it a little irritating that there isn't a way I can just download the most-loved 30 gigabytes or so from modarchive.org or whatever. That music's been around long enough, surely there's a curated collection for the curious dabbler.

edit: wait a second, they have a torrent thing, and the archive from 2007 back is about 30GB. Welp, here we go

30GB and 120000 downloaded modules later...

Only registered members can see post attachments!

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!

doctorfrog posted:

30GB and 120000 downloaded modules later...


:pcgaming:

Is XMPlay the best windows player? It's been a while and I have a sudden urge to waste 30GB

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Now I have to investigate just to see if any of my songs ended up in that compilation. And to hope if so it was not one of the songs I wrote like six weeks into my career that absolutely sucks yet was somehow preserved online forever

Edit: Wait a minute I can just search for my name on Modarchive, why did I never think of this before

Oh my god I am in so many greetz texts, my greatest legacy

Dr. Quarex has a new favorite as of 00:39 on Dec 7, 2021

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

an actual frog posted:

:pcgaming:

Is XMPlay the best windows player? It's been a while and I have a sudden urge to waste 30GB

'best' I have no idea, but it's pretty good for this dabbler. I just pointed it at the 30GB directory full of nested zip files and it's like "okie dokie boss, just press play on these 3000 tracks while I try to grab all 120000." There are what I assume are reasonable tracker player settings, some of which can be seen in that screenie I posted.

I actually used XMPlay for years as a simple skinned MP3 player without really understanding what it was designed for.

Two Owls
Sep 17, 2016

Yeah, count me in

XMPlay (plus plugins) are probably still the best way of playing the weirder module formats. The SID plugin needs an update last I checked after they rejigged the song length format so it's not good for playlists of them though.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004




What the hell happens when you push the space phone button???

:stare:

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Cartoon Man posted:



What the hell happens when you push the space phone button???

:stare:

It mutes the TV audio and switches in your phone line. The TV set had a microphone in it so you could talk back. Basically, it turned your TV into a giant speakerphone.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Cartoon Man posted:



What the hell happens when you push the space phone button???

:stare:

Grandparents had a tv with that remote. One of those big rear end floor TVs that’s also a piece of furniture. I remember the first time they called me from it they said were calling from their tv and I started waving because I assumed that meant they could see me. I’ve since developed a better understanding of technology.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Pham Nuwen posted:

It mutes the TV audio and switches in your phone line. The TV set had a microphone in it so you could talk back. Basically, it turned your TV into a giant speakerphone.

You mean it doesn’t call the galactic senate and execute order 66??? Useless remote…

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
HOLY poo poo that is my childhood remote, except crucially the bottom two rows were totally absent, so I have no personal stories of Space Phone.

I can tell you I exclusively entered 17 for Nickelodeon and 21 for MTV on it, though. MAYBE 30 for VH1 at the end of its life. And that it absolutely felt better than any of the like dozen remotes Telecable/TCI/Comcast/XFinity replaced it with over the next 30 years

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Dr. Quarex posted:

HOLY poo poo that is my childhood remote, except crucially the bottom two rows were totally absent, so I have no personal stories of Space Phone.

I can tell you I exclusively entered 17 for Nickelodeon and 21 for MTV on it, though. MAYBE 30 for VH1 at the end of its life. And that it absolutely felt better than any of the like dozen remotes Telecable/TCI/Comcast/XFinity replaced it with over the next 30 years

Were they clacky switches?

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I can't find an image of it, but we had an RCA TV with an RF wireless remote that just had a rocker switch for volume and a rocker switch for changing the channel. And the knob on the TV physically turned when you changed the channel. That was a relic until one day it succumbed to the magic smoke.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


My uncle had some crappy old tv at his cabin that had a “colorize” feature on it. Unfortunately there were never any black and white shows on any time I was there to test it on. Toggling it on an already color show just gave it weird color combos, although that’s probably what it would have done to black and white too.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



If I were a kid and I saw a remote with buttons labeled "Programmer" I would assume they were reserved for the use of licensed TV technicians and if I pressed them the TV would fizzle out and cost our family thousands of dollars :ohdear:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Data Graham posted:

If I were a kid and I saw a remote with buttons labeled "Programmer" I would assume they were reserved for the use of licensed TV technicians and if I pressed them the TV would fizzle out and cost our family thousands of dollars :ohdear:

When I was a kid and my mum told me dad was a programmer, that he wrote programs as a job, I thought he was the guy who made the subtitles appear, some sort of typist.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Casimir Radon posted:

My uncle had some crappy old tv at his cabin that had a “colorize” feature on it. Unfortunately there were never any black and white shows on any time I was there to test it on. Toggling it on an already color show just gave it weird color combos, although that’s probably what it would have done to black and white too.

Sounds like an automated version of the filter sheets they sold back in the day to turn black and white tvs into “color” ones.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Wow the blue man group has been around a lot longer than I thought

GI_Clutch
Aug 22, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Dinosaur Gum
I remember learning about those sheets from an episode of Happy Days. I think Mr. Cunningham put it on upside down, causing Joanie to ask why the sky was green and the grass blue.

Google led me to this project: https://www.anfractuosity.com/projects/rainbow/

He built a PDF he printed onto a layer of acetate with an inkjet printer and laid it over a b&w monitor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfPV_se0Kxk

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




I had this baby growing up



I remember staring at it during commercials and wondering what those other channels were like and who could see them

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Humphreys posted:

Were they clacky switches?
They definitely had some rebound to them. I THINK I can remember the clicks. Here, let me type out an impression of them: click

The most similar buttons I can think of would be, like, 3.5" disk drive eject buttons (but these were smaller obviously). Very satisfying, not gummy or "did I actually push it?" at all like basically every remote since

Dr. Quarex has a new favorite as of 16:20 on Dec 8, 2021

Lotron
Aug 15, 2006

Still clownin'

doctorfrog posted:

30GB and 120000 downloaded modules later...



Saw that cursed EQ config and remembered one simple trick that doctors hate



+



=

coldpudding
May 14, 2009

FORUM GHOST

GI_Clutch posted:

I remember learning about those sheets from an episode of Happy Days. I think Mr. Cunningham put it on upside down, causing Joanie to ask why the sky was green and the grass blue.

Google led me to this project: https://www.anfractuosity.com/projects/rainbow/

He built a PDF he printed onto a layer of acetate with an inkjet printer and laid it over a b&w monitor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfPV_se0Kxk

ooh that reminds me of how the bbc managed to recover the color footage from some old shows, since the black and white film they have was a recording of a color CRT all you need to do to is apply a color mask that matches the phosphor grid pattern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjK-b4x9ZmQ

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Yeah, I vaguely remember being impressed by that - it does suggest that the recording quality for the black/white versions must have been fairly good.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Mod Archive update: foobar2000 is a better choice for managing that many files. Basically if you listen to 120000 items for about 2 hours a day it'll take 10 years to hear them all.

So what I'm doing now is just listening to randomized collections (which foobar2000 does well) and when one strikes my fancy I use foobar's tagging and file operations tools copy it over to a 'keepers' directory. If I really like a track, I'll just figure out who the author is and either do a local binary search for their name as a string or search modarchive for more of their stuff (which is faster even though technically I probably have it downloaded already).

This is all completely normal.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Are we soulmates

That sounds a lot like my life in like 2007 when I had finally decided I had the free time necessary to listen to all the Demoscene tracks in my collection to decide once and for all which of them were good enough to turn into .MP3s. Since the like few hundred songs I had converted a decade earlier were just inadequate for the purposes of my collection on my music player. Haha, remember music players?

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!

doctorfrog posted:

I'll just figure out who the author is and either do a local binary search for their name as a string or search modarchive for more of their stuff (which is faster even though technically I probably have it downloaded already).
Yeah to be fair to you that torrent archive is utterly impenetrable and a nightmare to browse.

Unrelated but this was a fun nostalgia hit, the guy takes an old socket 7 motherboard and modifies it to support MMX chips and some others...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0NLGfocviU

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

an actual frog posted:

Yeah to be fair to you that torrent archive is utterly impenetrable and a nightmare to browse.

Spectate Swamp can fix that!

3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 00:49 on Dec 10, 2021

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I’m using Agent Ransack, which is probably older than some of the mods themselves.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Dr. Quarex posted:

Are we soulmates

That sounds a lot like my life in like 2007 when I had finally decided I had the free time necessary to listen to all the Demoscene tracks in my collection to decide once and for all which of them were good enough to turn into .MP3s. Since the like few hundred songs I had converted a decade earlier were just inadequate for the purposes of my collection on my music player. Haha, remember music players?

yeah, the impulse to catalog and archive is very difficult to resist. I'm meeting it halfway by listening to random selections and going deeper on tracks that stand out.

What I'm not doing, though, is converting the li'l fuckers to mp3, unless I have a real need to listen to them outside my PC. Playing them natively in foobar2000 with the right plugins is as far as I'm willing to go for casual listening.

I will say this, for selective copying into a "favorites" folder, converting to other formats, and even tagging (to a point), foobar2000 is pretty good IMO.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

an actual frog posted:

Yeah to be fair to you that torrent archive is utterly impenetrable and a nightmare to browse.
It certainly is, but both XMPlay and foobar2000 can read zip files, so it's not too hard to load them up and start playing (after a short wait). However, unless I'm missing something, neither player will search the files' instrument (samples?) list, which is where any meaningful metadata is stored on these things.

doctorfrog has a new favorite as of 20:59 on Dec 10, 2021

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
That normal frog should definitely listen to the doctor frog's advice, as he has obviously spent a lot of time researching

Foobar2000 does rule. It is the only reason I am not still using like WinAmp 3.5 or whatever

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


doctorfrog posted:

Mod Archive update: foobar2000 is a better choice for managing that many files. Basically if you listen to 120000 items for about 2 hours a day it'll take 10 years to hear them all.

So what I'm doing now is just listening to randomized collections (which foobar2000 does well) and when one strikes my fancy I use foobar's tagging and file operations tools copy it over to a 'keepers' directory. If I really like a track, I'll just figure out who the author is and either do a local binary search for their name as a string or search modarchive for more of their stuff (which is faster even though technically I probably have it downloaded already).

This is all completely normal.

It's not really mod but TGV's KiloMix '98 that was built into Rebirth RB-338 was one of the first 'non commercial' tracks I put on my 32MB MP3 Player.

EDIT: Found it easily enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfjmo451aGM

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 16:43 on Dec 10, 2021

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

Pham Nuwen posted:

It mutes the TV audio and switches in your phone line. The TV set had a microphone in it so you could talk back. Basically, it turned your TV into a giant speakerphone.

Groove with your Space Commander, dad!

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Humphreys posted:

It's not really mod but TGV's KiloMix '98 that was built into Rebirth RB-338 was one of the first 'non commercial' tracks I put on my 32MB MP3 Player.

EDIT: Found it easily enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfjmo451aGM

I had to struggle with a 486/33 until 1999 because poor. I made music on Fast Tracker II back then and when I went to my friend's place and he showed me Rebirth I was blown away. It was a really cool piece of software and the fact that it was built to mimic the hardware synths was more interesting than if it was just a normal sequencer based software.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010




I hadn't heard of that movie before you linked the clip... sounds like the critics hated it, but drat if the cast isn't impressive.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


lobsterminator posted:

I had to struggle with a 486/33 until 1999 because poor. I made music on Fast Tracker II back then and when I went to my friend's place and he showed me Rebirth I was blown away. It was a really cool piece of software and the fact that it was built to mimic the hardware synths was more interesting than if it was just a normal sequencer based software.

Rebirth was discontinued and Propellerheads made it 100% free, so time to relive your youth!

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Humphreys posted:

Rebirth was discontinued and Propellerheads made it 100% free, so time to relive your youth!

Shame the download site got nuked and now it redirects to reason homepage, archive seems to have saved the isos if you want to spin up a vm and try it out.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




I try to make an Amiga ProTracker chip tune every xmas. I still haven't figured out this year's song, but here are some of my previous ones. If/when I get a new tune done I will share it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S52WYY2EB6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMFNofivseM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BcCJwzRumk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs7BEGz4tg4

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F4rt5
May 20, 2006

lobsterminator posted:

I try to make an Amiga ProTracker chip tune every xmas. I still haven't figured out this year's song, but here are some of my previous ones. If/when I get a new tune done I will share it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S52WYY2EB6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMFNofivseM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BcCJwzRumk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs7BEGz4tg4
Awesome! I'ma fire up ScreamTracker again. Thx for the inspiration!

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