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The dreadnought heavy cruisers, for one  I would’ve liked to have seen an imperial Nebulon B, since those were initially imperial ships that the rebels somehow thieved all of them. Aside from those 2, I’m not sure what else there would be to add for the GCW. The Clone Wars was going to be some fertile ground, but, well… 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The Rebels have eleven different ship models and the Empire has ten (I'm not counting the Chimaera paint job ISD as a separate model lol). I think for a Star Trek equivalent you'd have to basically make the game Feds vs Everyone Else. Star Fleet Battles has been dreaming up weird ships for decades. I'm sure you could mine Star Trek through its various shows for a bunch of different stuff. Even if you stick to one era - say, TNG/DS9 - you could come up with dozens of designs.
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Icon Of Sin posted:
 Man, I was so jazzed at the thought of an Armada Lucrehulk. I love that design and was hoping we might see them as another huge ship. That and the Subjugator-class, which would be prime territory for some ignition arc shenanigans. At least the models we do have are great, and the game is in a pretty good place rules-wise.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Ehhhh, I'm not so sure about Star Trek having that many more starships to bring to the table. Sure, there's a shitload of weird kitbash Federation ships in the canon in addition to the hero ships, but the other space countries only have a handful of ship classes each. The way the (terrible) Star Trek Attack Wing game handled this was by letting you mix not only ships of any affiliation but put captains of any affiliation on ships of any affiliation, iirc. You just had to pay a 1 point penalty for each card that didn't match its host ship's faction. Imagine trying to balance Xwing 1st Edition when you could put Soontir or Vader on any ship in the game.
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Sure I'll just put cloaked mines (the dumbest card ever printed) on all my ships!
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Cessna posted:Star Fleet Battles has been dreaming up weird ships for decades. I'm sure you could mine Star Trek through its various shows for a bunch of different stuff. Even if you stick to one era - say, TNG/DS9 - you could come up with dozens of designs. Sure, like I said, there's an armada of different classes and sub-types in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era for Starfleet. Even if you restricted yourself to "only ships which were clearly seen in more than one episode" you could come up with over a dozen, easily. Things get a lot more sparse once you step out of the Federation, though. The Romulans only have four starship types in all of the TNG/DS9/Voyager era, and half of those showed up in Nemesis. (Maybe a fifth, if you count that runabout-sized craft the Romulan senator shows up to DS9 with.) I think the Cardassians only have three. The Klingons are a little better represented but their most iconic models are leftovers from the TOS movies (and at least two of their ships are the exact same shooting model, but depicted at different sizes). Don't get me wrong, there's definitely been very creative designs created for other Star Trek games; I'm pretty fond of the designs in Interplay's Starfleet Command and Klingon Academy games, for example. A prospective "Star Trek: Armada (the tabletop game)" designer could easily generate new designs to flesh out the other fleets. Probably a lot easier than trying to re-license some of the licensed works, even. But I don't think that points to Trek being better positioned to bring models to the table. Derlix posted:
I hear ya, buddy. I was really looking forward to seeing that big ol' space donut on the board.
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General Battuta posted:The way the (terrible) Star Trek Attack Wing game handled this was by letting you mix not only ships of any affiliation but put captains of any affiliation on ships of any affiliation, iirc. You just had to pay a 1 point penalty for each card that didn't match its host ship's faction. This is also gross to me from a thematic standpoint, but then I'm the kind of nerd who wrinkles his nose at Rebel v Rebel games.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:This is also gross to me from a thematic standpoint Nonsense! Whale Trek best Trek.
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Cessna posted:Star Fleet Battles has been dreaming up weird ships for decades. I'm sure you could mine Star Trek through its various shows for a bunch of different stuff. Even if you stick to one era - say, TNG/DS9 - you could come up with dozens of designs.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Nonsense! Whale Trek best Trek. "exception that proves the rule," etc  Arquinsiel posted:I'd just go "it's the Dominion war, everything until then can show up". Only two factions, multiple subfactions, and leave the Enterprise out of it entirely. What?! How can you leave the Enterprise out? Surely part of the fun is the officer and ship title upgrade cards. "we never saw the Enterprise in DS9" they were just fighting in another sector, okay??
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I'd be fine with Star Trek Armada as long as it wasn't run by wizkids. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a cottage industry of fan-made Star Trek ship/upgrade cards for Armada, and 3D-printable ships + printable base cards.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:"exception that proves the rule," etc
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Class Warcraft posted:Dang I really want Star Trek Armada now. I wish it would run on modern PCs.
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While they are not to scale the Eaglemoss models are great.
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bunnyofdoom posted:I wish it would run on modern PCs. GOG are apparently working on it for Armada and Armada 2. I assume the delay there is technical and not related to rights or anything (since there are several other Trek games from the Activision era that they're selling) I'd buy in hard on a proper (and good) official Star Trek: Armada a la the FFG Star Wars stuff but CBS's incompetence doesn't end with making bad shows, it apparently also extends to managing the IP's licensing deals.
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Drone posted:GOG are apparently working on it for Armada and Armada 2. I assume the delay there is technical and not related to rights or anything (since there are several other Trek games from the Activision era that they're selling) God that was such a fun game. Also on the whole non-Star Wars models for Armada, Mel's miniatures has BSG at least for armada
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bunnyofdoom posted:God that was such a fun game. Now there an IP with only a handful of ships. But also lol if they made cards for the thirty civilian ships in the floatilla
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Icon Of Sin posted:The dreadnought heavy cruisers, for one Oh, I had thoughts about this but forgot to post earlier. Yes, if the GCW really needed more representation in Armada (I'm still at a loss as to what niches remain un-filled), as mentioned the dreadnought heavy cruisers would be a candidate:  Other ships that come readily to mind include the Brahatok gunship:  The Strike cruiser:  and the Nebulon B2:  But really the Clone Wars should remain the priority for new ships. 
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Basically I want to rerun the whole of the TIE Fighter campaign in both armada and x wing thanks
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HootTheOwl posted:Basically I want to rerun the whole of the TIE Fighter campaign in both armada and x wing thanks I want the Ultimate experience where we can resolve Armada Squadron combat via X Wing. The game takes 10 hours to resolve.
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Feeple posted:I want the Ultimate experience where we can resolve Armada Squadron combat via X Wing. EDIT: Wait, let's also zoom back in the opposite direction and frame the whole thing within Star Wars: Rebellion. JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Dec 13, 2021 |
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I see you’re all on the same page with me re: the Battle of Endor, with games of Armada, X-Wing, and Legion all running concurrently and affecting each other 
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Feeple posted:I want the Ultimate experience where we can resolve Armada Squadron combat via X Wing.
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HootTheOwl posted:Oh so about an hour shorter than a mission of tie fighter? Kids just don't have the attention span these days.
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JazzFlight posted:You forgot to include boarding missions resolved through Legion/Imperial Assault as well. I like the cut of your space-jib.
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Drone posted:GOG are apparently working on it for Armada and Armada 2. I assume the delay there is technical and not related to rights or anything (since there are several other Trek games from the Activision era that they're selling) Both Armada 1 and 2 are available for me to buy right now. Is there something wrong with these versions?
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JazzFlight posted:You forgot to include boarding missions resolved through Legion/Imperial Assault as well. Disney is all about multi-media story releases, so they should definitely tie all of their tabletop games together in a similar fashion.
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AndyElusive posted:Both Armada 1 and 2 are available for me to buy right now. Is there something wrong with these versions? Nothing. Convenently, GOG released those versions like a day after I posted that post. Before that the status on them was "Coming Soon"
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Thank you, thread, for uncovering repressed memories of the eighteen missions in Armada 2 centered entirely on painstakingly chiseling through a turret minefield with artillery ships. Especially the loving Klingon one, that only had a single voice bark for all responses. REVENGE IS A DISSSSH BEST SERVED COLD
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Arquinsiel posted:Because they didn't fight and Picard is salty about it in one of the movies. Yeah, think the explanation was supposedly the Enterprise was frantically running around taking care of all the regular stuff all those fleet ships usually did. I suppose she was the best suited to any crisis situation without backup, and God knows there were still tons of colonies needing treatment for plagues of Space STIs or something. Either that, or whatever bureaucrat said no to the Enterprise when the Borg attacked got pissed and kept the Enterprise out of the Dominion War as punishment for ignoring them the first time. Either answer seems plausible to me (though I suspect the second one). HootTheOwl posted:Oh so about an hour shorter than a mission of tie fighter? I still can’t figure out how I had the time to finish that game completely as a kid.
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MadDogMike posted:Yeah, think the explanation was supposedly the Enterprise was frantically running around taking care of all the regular stuff all those fleet ships usually did. I suppose she was the best suited to any crisis situation without backup, and God knows there were still tons of colonies needing treatment for plagues of Space STIs or something. Either that, or whatever bureaucrat said no to the Enterprise when the Borg attacked got pissed and kept the Enterprise out of the Dominion War as punishment for ignoring them the first time. Either answer seems plausible to me (though I suspect the second one). Also in a war where they're losing ships left and right the Enterprise is too potent of a symbol to throw into the fray.
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The Enterprise not being allowed to fight in the Dominion War is an incarnation/allegory of the franchise leadership refusing to support DS9.
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This is about as much the Armada thread as any, and I wanted to show off the Millennium Falcon I just painted. So there. 
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Icon Of Sin posted:This is about as much the Armada thread as any, and I wanted to show off the Millennium Falcon I just painted. So there. That's a good lil' Falcon
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https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2022/3/24/unfinished-business/ Outer Rim is finally getting an expansion. Been looking forward to this for a while.
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https://twitter.com/atomicmassgames/status/1512089884982403077 Armada is not dead yet!
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Interesting way to increase the variety and do some cross-faction selling for the game.
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Arquinsiel posted:Interesting way to increase the variety and do some cross-faction selling for the game. Literally. I had no intention of buying a Providence or any sep ship and now.....
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