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Heading to bed as I'm knackered. Played Merchants of the Dark Road and Unfathomable today. Fantastic fantastic games both. Good friends and good times.  This combo of weapons + being the First Mate (which allows you to jump to a deck space and take an action) enabled me to merc the poo poo out of THIRTEEN Deep Ones in the space of 2 player turns. - Teleport to deck (Gain Extra Action) - Murder Deep One 1 with Starbuck (Gain Extra Action) - Rampage with Repeating Rifle to 3x Interior Deep Ones - Rampage #2 with Repeating Rifle to 3x Deep Ones in the Water ~Mythos Phase 8x Deep Ones come onto Decks to my Left and Right~ - Player next to me allows me to take 2 extra actions - Rampage #3 and Rampage #4 murders 6 of the 8 new Deep Ones on the Deck.  The 2 revealed traitors were PISSED 
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SiKboy posted:Its trying to find the right balance of tactical fiddle vs mindless violins. This is an underrated comment that needed to be seen on the next page too
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Dec 11, 2021 15:35
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I've been playing a bunch of Ameritrash recently. Last Night on Earth and Arkham 1.0 are terrible. Do those count as dudes in a hall? Just play Trogdor it's the same game with no rolling.
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Dec 11, 2021 15:59
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GreenBuckanneer posted:my group really seems to enjoy istanbul type games but I'm not as excited about them Istanbul is probably best described as an engine-building worker placement. I love it. That said, most worker placement games are much duller than Istanbul.
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Dec 11, 2021 16:51
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I played unfathomable as well about 2 weeks ago and I was somewhat impressed. I think they took a lot of lessons from BSG and actually learnt from them, and the game, even with newbies, was really tight and came to a close finish. I think the menu of options for traitors really improves the game a lot and keeps them invested in the game.
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Dec 11, 2021 17:06
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As a BSG veteran with dozens of plays, I really enjoyed Unfathomable. The cultist turned me into a traitor very shortly before the end of the 11th movement, so I was pretty much outed straight away. The other traitor had never played BSG and only became a traitor in the second half, but she grasped it really well, making some slightly suspicious moves but explaining her reasons convincingly. With me as the other traitor, she and I very rapidly turned the tide before the humans could react enough, and I did my reveal action (reset the track) which also screwed the cultist out of a victory as we made the fuel run out before they could move again.
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Dec 11, 2021 17:44
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SiKboy posted:Its trying to find the right balance of tactical fiddle vs mindless violins. As a violist, I know for a fact we have the mindless music.
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Dec 11, 2021 17:49
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nordichammer posted:The Estates is a modern classic auction game. Technically a reimplementation, but it feels and looks nice. It’s still bizarre to me that only 3-4 years ago it was easy to pick up Chex for $12-15 and now it’s rare. One can only hope it gets picked up by capstone and reprinted in an appropriately sized box.
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Dec 11, 2021 17:54
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How similar is 7 Wonders compared to the Duel 2 player version? Because, as it stands, 7 Wonders Duel is one of my favourite games to play with friends (that and Jaipur)… Are there any other games similar?
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Dec 11, 2021 18:28
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I didn't realize it's that hard to find Chicago Express now, that is pretty funny. Well, I'm still seeing it on BGG used for like 40 bucks so it can't be that bad.
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Dec 11, 2021 20:50
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SiKboy posted:Its trying to find the right balance of tactical fiddle vs mindless violins. 
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https://twitter.com/grandtrunkgames/status/1469729331622465537 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joshuastarr/shikoku-1889/ $50 for a very nice edition of 1889 is a steal.
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Dec 11, 2021 21:17
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Bottom Liner posted:https://twitter.com/grandtrunkgames/status/1469729331622465537 Graphic design on this one by a good friend of mine who's also redesigned a number of other 18XXs.
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Dec 11, 2021 21:23
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Was checking a lgs site today to see if they finally had a copy of the Under Dark Waves expansion for Arkham 3rd and just about lost it when I saw Forbidden Alchemy for Mansions of Madness 1st edition for msrp. Site 404d when I tried to add it to cart, so I called to them to see if they’d hold it for me but it turns out it was just a glitch or something. Oh well, couldn’t really afford it anyway.
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Harold Fjord posted:I've been playing a bunch of Ameritrash recently. Last Night on Earth and Arkham 1.0 are terrible. Do those count as dudes in a hall? Just play Trogdor it's the same game with no rolling. Dudes In A Hall was a phrase from someone or other, but it captured that sort of game where you had a squad of dudes dungeoneering or fighting aliens/monsters down a set of corridors, with lots of tactics around movement and conserving resources, with a constant encountering of enemies that was asymmetrical, i.e. they used different rules to the players. I think both the above are maybe marginal examples due to the puzzle solving and borderline roleplaying elements. Last Night is a game I used to really like until Zombicide came along and acheived 90% of the same effect with less than half the rules and setup. Like, you can criticise Zombicide as a game, but it's a pretty lean representation of the essentials of a zombie setup.
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Dec 11, 2021 22:49
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Bottom Liner posted:https://twitter.com/grandtrunkgames/status/1469729331622465537 Even with my yet-unplayed copy of 1830, I'd consider jumping on this, except for Kickstarter's loving blockchain grift-baloney. Do GTGs games go to retail?
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Dec 11, 2021 22:52
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gschmidl posted:Graphic design on this one by a good friend of mine who's also redesigned a number of other 18XXs. Including 1889 itself. I expect his PnP files for that game is the most common form of it.
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Dec 11, 2021 23:17
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Magnetic North posted:Even with my yet-unplayed copy of 1830, I'd consider jumping on this, except for Kickstarter's loving blockchain grift-baloney. I would imagine it would be very hard for ks to change pre-existing campaigns...
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Dec 11, 2021 23:29
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silvergoose posted:I would imagine it would be very hard for ks to change pre-existing campaigns... It's more the principle of the thing. And nothing against the people who utilize KS, this is just dumbfuckery on the part of the company themselves.
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Dec 11, 2021 23:44
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Magnetic North posted:It's more the principle of the thing. And nothing against the people who utilize KS, this is just dumbfuckery on the part of the company themselves. Definitely.
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Dec 11, 2021 23:51
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They need more $$. They aren’t going public so this is plan b. In the scheme of things with NFTs and all, it’s not that big of a thing to me. As someone pointed out in another thread, video game playing takes up way more electricity than this could ever do. I respect peoples choices of course.
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Dec 12, 2021 01:44
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A single transaction on the blockchain uses as much electricity as a fridge running for a month, so I have no idea where they got that statistic. Crypto is way way worse than any normal hobby assuming you're not a coal rolling big trucker. Geoff Engelstein made a twitter thread hypothesizing that this was to get around new EU regulations that would put KS on the hook for failed campaigns, but then someone posted the proposed law that specifically said crowdfunding sites like KS were exempt. It's 100% an attempt to hop on the trend by using buzzwords with no concern for the harm or reason to use blockchain technology, because there is never a reason to use it. It solves no problems and adds no benefits.
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Dec 12, 2021 02:03
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I haven't used KS in forever so this is news to me, but also lol.
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Dec 12, 2021 02:04
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Bottom Liner posted:A single transaction on the blockchain uses as much electricity as a fridge running for a month, so I have no idea where they got that statistic. Crypto is way way worse than any normal hobby assuming you're not a coal rolling big trucker.
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Mayveena posted:As someone pointed out in another thread, video game playing takes up way more electricity than this could ever do. lmfao
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Impermanent posted:That's true for proof of work crypto bullshit but kickstarter is basing theirs on Celo, which is proof of stake and is orders of magnitude less energy intensive. It's still wasteful but not at nearly the same scale This was my understanding.
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Dec 12, 2021 02:22
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Impermanent posted:That's true for proof of work crypto bullshit but kickstarter is basing theirs on Celo, which is proof of stake and is orders of magnitude less energy intensive. It's still wasteful but not at nearly the same scale As others have pointed out about this in Discord and other threads, Celo just purchases carbon credits so it's not really any better. PoS bullshit has been the promise of cleaner crypto for like 5 years and it's all just part of the grift to get more people on board with the nonsense. Even if the move was truly carbon neutral it wouldn't be improving anything about the platform.
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Dec 12, 2021 02:29
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Don't ever give blockchain anything the benefit of the doubt, do not trust anything they have to say about themselves, it is literally always a scam and a lie.
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That’s a fantastic table. I think I want to make mine a sitting / standing table.
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I have three outstanding kickstarters and already own 7 18xx games which is plenty. I’m not big on kickstarters anyway so I’m not going to claim I’m boycotting them. A friend has 180 outstanding kickstarters which is insane, another has 40 outstanding kickstarters, I don’t know what they are going to do. Is what Kickstarter doing better or worse than going public? Can’t answer but I hate publicly traded companies.
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This is wading into the standard "no ethical consumption under capitalism" talk but yeah, getting into crypto is a significant step up in the "captain planet villain" scheme of things, especially considering KS is a relatively small company that can completely avoid going near anything like that.
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Dec 12, 2021 04:21
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I'm not specifically boycotting Kickstarter, but this did help push me towards the realization that from a personal perspective I really don't need to back anything ever again.
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Dec 12, 2021 04:24
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Bottom Liner posted:This is wading into the standard "no ethical consumption under capitalism" talk but yeah, getting into crypto is a significant step up in the "captain planet villain" scheme of things, especially considering KS is a relatively small company that can completely avoid going near anything like that. For some reason they need money according to Bloomberg. So if they need major amounts of money then they can go public, which they apparently don't want to do or I guess they are doing this. No, they can't raise their rates, gamefound has already left them and if they raise their rates, more will go to gamefound or create something else that doesn't need money. The cynic says they need more money to make the executive management billionaires but who knows.
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Mayveena posted:For some reason they need money according to Bloomberg. So if they need major amounts of money then they can go public, which they apparently don't want to do or I guess they are doing this. No, they can't raise their rates, gamefound has already left them and if they raise their rates, more will go to gamefound or create something else that doesn't need money. The cynic says they need more money to make the executive management billionaires but who knows. Yeah, it definitely sounds to me like their admin costs are now eating into their profits. Probably not exceeding them, but not making them rich as fast as they'd like either.
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Regardless, it's a scam. There is literally no world where they're going to successfully transition to a blockchain-based platform. The only question is who's doing the scamming.
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Dec 12, 2021 18:02
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Dec 12, 2021 18:26
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The Eyes Have It posted:What exactly does rolling blockchain tech into their platform mean? Making it ten times slower and using a hundred times as much energy because capitalists like stupid buzzwords more than they like having a habitable planet.
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Mayveena posted:They need more $$. They aren’t going public so this is plan b. In the scheme of things with NFTs and all, it’s not that big of a thing to me. As someone pointed out in another thread, video game playing takes up way more electricity than this could ever do. LMAO what. I understand that gaming isn't exactly the greenest activity you can do but the sheer wastage and inefficiency of crypto makes this claim highly suspect.
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Quote-Unquote posted:Making it ten times slower and using a hundred times as much energy because capitalists like stupid buzzwords more than they like having a habitable planet. Don’t sell it short. They also get to offload their servers and payment processing onto kickstarters and donators, and cut out credit card companies (at least directly).
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The Eyes Have It posted:What exactly does rolling blockchain tech into their platform mean? They make a press release about it, and then two years later they scuttle the project because it doesn't work.
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