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Edward Mass posted:Deonna Purrazzo vs. Thunder Rosa was an MOTYC by FIGHT ISLAND's own standards. Yeah but you can't trust those people, by Fight Island standards Takuya Nomura has had 0 MOTYC this year & that's clearly lunacy. I don't imagine there's much between ROH & Impact really. They are both quite enjoyable weekly TV companies, certainly better than Billy Corgan's vanity project, they both have some great wrestlers on their roster, personally I think ROH had more I dig but obviously emphasis is on the past tense there. Certainly didn't regret the ROH shows I've checked out
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People always talk about impact wrestling as if it still exists and I'm sure it does but I don't understand how they could possibly be making any money because I never see anyone talking about it anywhere Are they still just losing money every year
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Orange Carlisle posted:People always talk about impact wrestling as if it still exists and I'm sure it does but I don't understand how they could possibly be making any money because I never see anyone talking about it anywhere No, they actually turned a profit last year.
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TNA exists more than NXT UK, which doesn't exist
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Edward Mass posted:No, they actually turned a profit last year. Also they’re owned by the network they air on. So they have an eternal home, until the network loses interest and ROH’s them.
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That’s how you know it’s a good one.
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Edward Mass posted:No, they actually turned a profit last year.
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njsykora posted:That’s how you know it’s a good one. Every year without fail, it's the same build, almost the same payoff, and it's good every time. Last year's MJF hyper speed burial and Jim Valley's burial from the verge were an amazing end.
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TNA is just too tainted in my mind to take seriously ever again. They should try to do a serious rebranding and decide on an identity and image that isn't just "WWE but without the production value".
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El Generico posted:TNA is just too tainted in my mind to take seriously ever again. They should try to do a serious rebranding and decide on an identity and image that isn't just "WWE but without the production value". I mean, it lets wrestlers have time in the ring so it's definitely not WWE without the production values. If you give Impact one more chance, make it the Ironman Match from this year between Josh Alexander & TJP.
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I have watched Impact this year and been surprised. I don’t watch it weekly but I do try to catch the PPVs and enjoy them. I tried to get through NWA Hard Times 2 and between the wrestling and having like 20 fans in the crowd, that was loving rough. I will just watch the Darius Lockhart stuff by itself from now on.
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El Generico posted:TNA is just too tainted in my mind to take seriously ever again. They should try to do a serious rebranding and decide on an identity and image that isn't just "WWE but without the production value". They have tried to rebrand, they aren't even called TNA anymore their official name is Impact Wrestling, but nobody gives a poo poo because in everyone's mind they're still the same old TNA even if they've gone through like 3 ownership changes simce the last time they were on a relevant TV channel.
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forkboy84 posted:I mean, it lets wrestlers have time in the ring so it's definitely not WWE without the production values. If you give Impact one more chance, make it the Ironman Match from this year between Josh Alexander & TJP. did you really just try to sell TNA to someone by recommending a loving TJP match
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tjp is a really good wrestler
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He's a fine wrestler, but also a colossal dipshit with an ego.
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TJP is not a good enough wrestler to offset the fact he’s a fuckwit.
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edogawa rando posted:He's a fine wrestler, but also a colossal dipshit with an ego. He speedran Austin Aries entire career
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edogawa rando posted:He's a fine wrestler, but also a colossal dipshit with an ego.
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Lid posted:He speedran Austin Aries entire career Has he publicly sexually harassed a woman in the ring tho Actually, did he get named in #speakingout?
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Alaois posted:They have tried to rebrand, they aren't even called TNA anymore their official name is Impact Wrestling They're going to have to rebrand more thoroughly than this. Impact is still the show TNA was on. Everything bad that was associated with TNA is also associated with Impact.
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El Generico posted:They're going to have to rebrand more thoroughly than this. Impact is still the show TNA was on. Everything bad that was associated with TNA is also associated with Impact. I never said they rebranded well! poo poo im pretty sure the Impact rebranding was in 2010 when Bischoff and Hogan took over
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In all fairness, "Impact Wrestling" is a much better name than "TNA." Miss me with that early-2000s Russo-rear end poo poo.
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on the topic of wrestling podcasts, my favorite moment of the Monumental Podcast is still when MRT discovered that the idea for Sports Entertainment Xtreme actually came from Jerry Jarrett
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Venomous posted:did you really just try to sell TNA to someone by recommending a loving TJP match I mean, I'd recommend watching a dozen promotions before Impact in TYOOL 2021, but it's the best Impact match I've seen since April 2019's LAX Lucha Bros match. It's a ****½ Iron Man match. TJP being a bellend doesn't change that. I'd rather people watched the BJW Strong Title match between Nomura & Sekimoto that I linked in a few threads at the time but people were talking about Impact rather than Big Japan.
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It's a little bit like if you stopped being WWE but instead you decided the name of your wrestling promotion was going to be Monday Night Raw.
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jesus WEP posted:tjp is a really good wrestler tjp is a really good wrestler when he can be bothered. He can be bothered about 30% of the time.
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Alaois posted:I never said they rebranded well! nah, they renamed themselves to Impact when Anthem bought out Dixie in 2017, then renamed themselves to GFW for like 2 months because of their deal with Jarrett that blew up, then back to Impact.
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Alaois posted:I never said they rebranded well! At its debut in 2004, the show on FSN was called "TNA Impact!". That name persisted for years, but during the Bischoff/Hogan era they rebranded the show to "Impact Wrestling", but the promotion was still called TNA owned by TNA Entertainment LLC and other than taking TNA out of the name of the weekly show, you still had future TNA Hall of Famer Sting shoot pin Jeff Hardy for the TNA Heavyweight Championship at TNA Victory Road. Then deep into the TNA deathwatch circa 2015-2016 it looked like TNA was going to go bankrupt, and there were a series of lawsuits I barely understood at the time but I believe both Billy Corgan and Anthem were fronting money to Dixie Carter to keep TNA solvent, and both of them wanted to buy out the company. Eventually Anthem bought them, and changed the name of the parent company from "TNA Entertainment" to "Impact Ventures". In 2017, TNA was declared "dead" and the promotion changed its name from TNA to "Impact Wrestling", meaning their flagship show was Impact Wrestling Impact Wrestling. Maybe because they thought this was silly, Anthem announced almost immediately they were buying out Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling and the show was going to be called GFW Impact, and they started merging/renaming their belts as GFW Championships. Then a few months after that, the deal with Jarrett dissolved and they had to re-re-brand everything, so that by the end of 2017 everything was 100% officially Impact. I think at some point in here there were rumors that they were going to try to rebrand as NWA but I may be misremembering things, as Billy Corgan didn't buy NWA until he had thoroughly burned bridges with TNA/Impact/Anthem/GFW. So yeah, not a good rebranding.
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Don’t forget the part where Billy Corgan thought he was buying TNA from Dixie. Dixie took one look at McMahonism and was like hold my white wine.
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edogawa rando posted:In all fairness, "Impact Wrestling" is a much better name than "TNA." Miss me with that early-2000s Russo-rear end poo poo. Definitely literally anything is better than that junior high edgelord bullshit
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Alaois posted:on the topic of wrestling podcasts, my favorite moment of the Monumental Podcast is still when MRT discovered that the idea for Sports Entertainment Xtreme actually came from Jerry Jarrett I've been listening to You've Got to Be Kidding Me (a TNA history podcast associated with the VoW network) and this never came up, so clearly I'm listening to the wrong TNA history podcast.
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CVagts posted:I've been listening to You've Got to Be Kidding Me (a TNA history podcast associated with the VoW network) and this never came up, so clearly I'm listening to the wrong TNA history podcast. sounds like the hosts of that podcast aren't doing their homework and reading Jerry Jarrett's diaries!
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CVagts posted:I've been listening to You've Got to Be Kidding Me (a TNA history podcast associated with the VoW network) and this never came up, so clearly I'm listening to the wrong TNA history podcast. I started that and it’s really bad. Made it about three eps in before giving up. Needs an editor badly.
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I hope Dixie writes a wrestling memoir because it has to be at least as batshit as Jerry’s was.
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hook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLv4xQCsYTA
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reignofevil posted:It's a little bit like if you stopped being WWE but instead you decided the name of your wrestling promotion was going to be Monday Night Raw. I mean, this is pretty much exactly what Turner did with WCW. Also, new Immovable Objects where we review maybe the worst high-profile match I’ve ever seen! https://anchor.fm/immovable-objects/episodes/020---Brawl-to-End-It-All-Part-Two-Prefabricated-Dog-Biscuit-e1bipgh
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Edge & Christian posted:Then deep into the TNA deathwatch circa 2015-2016 it looked like TNA was going to go bankrupt, and there were a series of lawsuits I barely understood at the time but I believe both Billy Corgan and Anthem were fronting money to Dixie Carter to keep TNA solvent, and both of them wanted to buy out the company. Eventually Anthem bought them, and changed the name of the parent company from "TNA Entertainment" to "Impact Ventures". TNA/Impact/Anthem/GFW.
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