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Some of my favorite characters in gaming are people with both magic and swords, like Red Mages from Final Fantasy and Kratos and Zelos from Symphonia,
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Best Elder Scrolls builds too (yes yes stealth archers are also fun)
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Dec 12, 2021 13:29
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Acerbatus posted:Speaking of brain damage and amnesia, I'm always a little perplexed when there's seemingly really minor changes to scripts in translations that don't majorly alter the plot or anything, but change things enough that it's noticeable. Going through the english version of Caligula Overdose, Kuchinashi and Wicked being flirty with the protagonist is pretty much gone. Kuchinashi in particular it doesn't really play into her characterization so it doesn't really matter but I can't help but always wonder why that stuff changes. Wicked is probably just doing it to mess with you, but I think that does change how I'd look at Kuchinashi. At least a little bit.
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Dec 12, 2021 13:43
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Magical girls aren't really 'wizards' in the archetypal sense, anyway. Ako-chan was literally a witch and that set the standard for a lot of other early magical girl stuff, btu the genre pretty quickly started experimenting. Sarutobi Ecchan was a ninja and most of her powers were the result of ninja magic or ninja training (and there's some supplementary material in the author's later work that makes her an alien, for some reason), and Cutie Honey doesn't even do anything magical and isn't magical in origin, she's an android, and all of her powers are her dad's creation. And then Sailor Moon took the genre in a tokusatsu/saint seiya inspired direction, which leads pretty directly to the current status quo for most magical girl stuff where their powers are magical in origin but their powers largely manifest as physical tools, strength, etc, with which to fight the bad guys, and magical attacks are mostly used as finishers or for big climatic moves. Since, well, that's how Saint Seiya works. (I guess Saint Seiya is technically divine and not magic, but a lot of magical girl stuff is also divinity - including Sailor Moon - so whatever.)
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Dec 12, 2021 13:45
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remember the arc of sailor moon where the villain looked liek  this, was named Death Phantom, and his motivation was that in the future year of 3000 sailor moon rules neo tokyo with such an iron fist that crime no longer exists and he wants to rebel against her regime and bring back free will and earth independence from the moonsailor moon kind of owns
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Dec 12, 2021 13:49
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I only wish that Jupiter did a zangief 360 on Beryl or something
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Dec 12, 2021 14:03
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kirbysuperstar posted:I only wish that Jupiter did a zangief 360 on Beryl or something
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Dec 12, 2021 14:05
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Endorph posted:she does zangief 360s in the fighting game Yeah it loving owns
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Dec 12, 2021 14:06
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sadly none of the villains are in the fighting game primarily because ive never seen a big franchise care less about its villains than sailor moon. when was the last time you saw queen beryl merch?
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Dec 12, 2021 14:07
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Caligula 2 update: the planetarium dungeon music has been stuck in my head despite me not having played that level for a week, please send help
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Dec 12, 2021 14:21
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Endorph posted:sadly none of the villains are in the fighting game primarily because ive never seen a big franchise care less about its villains than sailor moon. when was the last time you saw queen beryl merch? I... think I've seen some in some loose gacha machines but I've honestly not looked because I'm here for jupiter
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Dec 12, 2021 14:25
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Swap Out slaps, I'm glad you realize this
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Caligula 2 update 2: I am also really upset the game doesn't let you use the switch video capture thing because I don't think ive laughed harder at a game in a while than the boss fight where I did a brutal cinematic limit break move on a loving haunted wheelchair
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Dec 12, 2021 14:29
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Endorph posted:sadly none of the villains are in the fighting game primarily because ive never seen a big franchise care less about its villains than sailor moon. when was the last time you saw queen beryl merch? I dunno much about SM, but a licensed fighting game without literally any of the series' villains seems weird to me, like you'd think they'd throw in Beryl as the unplayable final boss and make the plot that she's mind controlling the cast to fight each other or something.
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Barudak posted:I... think I've seen some in some loose gacha machines but I've honestly not looked because I'm here for jupiter theres like one figure, a couple gachapon things, and a funko pop, yeah
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Commander Keene posted:Wait, what? Is it just the main cast or something? Do they try to justify that in the plot of the game? Is there any plot?  actually i want to play as doctor tomoe anyway the plot is the extremely jokey premise of 'everyone gets mad at moon and they decide to elect a new leader by way of tournament'. presumably if moon wins she just punches everyone back into place. which is what DEATH PHANTOM was mad about her doing in the space year 3000, so maybe it really is canonically accurate. Endorph fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Dec 12, 2021 |
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Dec 12, 2021 14:33
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Junpei posted:Swap Out slaps, I'm glad you realize this It's way too good https://youtu.be/g-zqJKc7TvU
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Dec 12, 2021 14:35
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Endorph posted:The fighting game is based on the third season, by which Beryl is long dead. The playable cast are just the Sailor Scouts that were around at that time, so Moon, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Chibi Moon, Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus. Sadly, Saturn is Sailor Not Appearing In This Game. I imagine the game was made on a small enough budget that eight characters was all they could really manage and they figured people cared about the main characters more than fuckin uhhh, Doctor Tomoe You can pay as Saturn in the pretty good romhack that also adds Raphael and Aoki Marin https://newchallenger.net/w/index.php?title=Sailor_Moon_Fighter_S#Playable_Characters
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Dec 12, 2021 14:41
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Acerbatus posted:Speaking of brain damage and amnesia, I'm always a little perplexed when there's seemingly really minor changes to scripts in translations that don't majorly alter the plot or anything, but change things enough that it's noticeable. Going through the english version of Caligula Overdose, Kuchinashi and Wicked being flirty with the protagonist is pretty much gone. Kuchinashi in particular it doesn't really play into her characterization so it doesn't really matter but I can't help but always wonder why that stuff changes. Assuming it is the President she admired and not Lucid, because she shouldn't know they were the same person. Though I suppose Mu could have told her in between games. Or maybe their social link meant a lot more to her than she ever let on.
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Dec 12, 2021 14:52
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It's way too good
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Dec 12, 2021 14:58
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FractalSandwich posted:Man. Toys for Bob have had one hell of a career. i just looked up their career and lmao. what a ride.
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Dec 12, 2021 15:20
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i just looked up their career and lmao. what a ride. quote:They pursue Cruella to a bakery, and find that the puppies, led by Oddball, have tricked Cruella into being baked in an enormous cake. Cruella survives,
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Dec 12, 2021 15:26
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I get that it's probably because they liked their game engine or something but I'm really interested in who at Bandai was like "yeah that JDM magical girl fighting game? Let's get the Star Control devs to make that". was Will Wright or Sid Meier not available that day
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Dec 12, 2021 15:28
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also i have no magical girl content except that Astral Chain put in the effort to have this be like a five second long sight gag of a magical girl legion cop character sheet on an animated TV screen  
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Dec 12, 2021 15:39
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The actual mascot character for Japanese cops deserves their own platforming game, I agree.
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Dec 12, 2021 15:41
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Barudak posted:The actual mascot character for Japanese cops deserves their own platforming game, I agree. that's not Lappy!!!
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Feels Villeneuve posted:that's not Lappy!!! No, no not Lappy in the game, I'm talking the real one in real life. Edit: Pipo-kun. Much like Japan itself, I ignore anything not related to Tokyo so eat me other prefectures police mascots Barudak fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Dec 12, 2021 |
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Dec 12, 2021 15:45
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Endorph posted:anyway the plot is the extremely jokey premise of 'everyone gets mad at moon and they decide to elect a new leader by way of tournament'. presumably if moon wins she just punches everyone back into place. which is what DEATH PHANTOM was mad about her doing in the space year 3000, so maybe it really is canonically accurate. I only watched a season and a half but this really just seems like something that would have happened in the show proper, lol
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Dec 12, 2021 16:06
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Libluini posted:yeah, but wizards don't, as default, and with magical girls my brain automatically puts them into the wizard category and is like "magical girls are magic, they don't use swords, durr" You gotta update your assumptions every decade or so, ideas about things get outdated. It's not that old a focal point but think She-Ra for a magical girl example for the future.
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RareAcumen posted:It's not that old a focal point but think She-Ra for a magical girl example for the future.
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Endorph posted:bruh I'm saying I'm sure there are older examples than the 1985 cartoon She-Ra, but she fits the idea of 'magical girl that transforms and uses a sword' since wands aren't the default weapon of the genre really.
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ill level i thought you meant the she-ra reboot so thats on me presuming you were being dumb, my apologies
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Endorph posted:ill level i thought you meant the she-ra reboot so thats on me presuming you were being dumb, my apologies No worries, I usually am!
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Dec 12, 2021 17:36
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I get that it's probably because they liked their game engine or something but I'm really interested in who at Bandai was like "yeah that JDM magical girl fighting game? Let's get the Star Control devs to make that". was Will Wright or Sid Meier not available that day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJwUO--Hwmk&t=518s the devs were unsatisfied with how unholy war turned out, they were fans of the sd gundam games and wanted to get an in with bandai to make an sd gundam game, they met a guy who had connections with bandai, they signed them on for a contract with bandai without telling them what the game was for, it turned out they got signed on for a magical girl game.
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Dec 12, 2021 18:45
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this discussion made me want to pick up sailor moon again, dropped it during s1 cause the pacing was wonky af
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Dec 12, 2021 21:25
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the first season of the original anime has some bad pacing issues yeah. it takes like 2/3 of the show to itnroduce the full cast and sailor moon doesn't have a lot to do with its characters until they're all assembled so the main reasons to watch it are for the more bizarre original eps and weirder end stuff. the second and third seasons are a lot better, they're the same ep length but have weirder visuals and more interesting ideas for how to use their length to expand on the cast (there's still like three or four really bad eps in there you can skip thoguh lol. nobody needs to see the baby ep, or the two randomly lesbophobic eps of s)
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Dec 12, 2021 21:55
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My spicy take is that the earlier parts of Sailor Moon season 1 where it's mostly Usagi going undercover at some new Dark Kingdom establishment are a lot stronger than the Victim of the Day framework the show eventually transforms into, but I guess at the same time I get that if you want actual plot development season 1 is easily the worst about it.
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Dec 12, 2021 22:04
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there's some interesting ideas in early s1 but. usagi has absolutely nobody to bounce off of other than luna. there's just, not a lot of actual character writing going on
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Dec 12, 2021 22:12
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yeah the best parts of 90s sailor moon are the comedy and boy is the early season 1 stuff not that funny
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tbf the part where they changed a scene from a bad guy hijacking a bus, to a bad guy driving a bus driver insane and the bus driver shouting "I'VE BEEN DRIVING THIS BUS FOR 20 YEARS" while rocketing through the streets is pretty funny
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