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Canine Blues Arooo posted:There is a ton of nuance and detail here, as well as a massive bucket of non-trivial problems to solve, but the solution to this is that your out-of-game infra shouldn't be self hosted. You push those pieces to AWS et al. It is bonus complex in that such a transition will take years and if such a change were to happen in time for 7.0, you'd probably have to start talking 6 months ago. Lmao amazon couldn’t even keep the servers for their own shithole MMO for assholes running, in what world do you live that they could possibly in a million years be able to handle the Endwalker surge
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Saying “I’m having a bad experience with this game” is not at all the same as saying “this developer is bad, and should be ashamed of themselves.” You can talk about silicon shortages and data center “blah blah blah” until you’re blue in the face, but the fact of our poor experience remains.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:42
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vhweltall posted:Saying “I’m having a bad experience with this game” is not at all the same as saying “this developer is bad, and should be ashamed of themselves.” There are people saying exactly that though????
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Dec 13, 2021 01:43
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when are we going to get an Endwalker queue gang tag
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Dec 13, 2021 01:47
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Arist posted:There are people saying exactly that though???? Emotions are running high. The game is great, but the game-experience is piss-poor.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:50
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I finished up to the first dungeon. They have some serious chutzpah making Fandaniel's real identity Amon. A boss from a raid years ago. And not even the MAIN boss. AND NOT EVEN FROM THE LAST RAID.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:51
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vhweltall posted:Emotions are running high. The game is great, but the game-experience is piss-poor. go tell them to calm down then
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Dec 13, 2021 01:52
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Arist posted:There are people saying exactly that though???? Maybe a few here but that's it? Unless you're talking twitter, like of course don't listen to any idiots there. I hit 87 yesterday, can't get in today and that's fine, but at least I can understand why people get annoyed at the 2002 while they wait and lose position.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:53
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Nodosaur posted:I finished up to the first dungeon. How much time did Koji and Ishikawa spend reading the "Emet is Amon" theories and laughing their asses off?
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Dec 13, 2021 01:54
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I'm number 3,777 in queue right now, so let me be clear: this situation absolutely loving sucks. But, like, come on. There's just no reasonable way for the devteam to have either meaningfully mitigated or even properly anticipated the scale of the login problems.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:55
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S.J. posted:go tell them to calm down then I dunno, I say things about my significant other that aren’t true when I’m pissed off. It’s still a valid exercise.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:55
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"hey this poo poo sucks, I wish I could play  " is finetrash like this: Canine Blues Arooo posted:It is completely stunning to me that the community is erupting over the state of the servers. If this were WoW - if there were 3+ hour queues where the client can't even keep itself open, there would be riots. I'm so sick of having to babysit the client while in a loving queue. The fact that this wasn't fixed in a day demonstrates a kind of technical incompetence that I cannot even fathom for an operation this large. is dumb as gently caress
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Dec 13, 2021 01:55
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hopeandjoy posted:How much time did Koji and Ishikawa spend reading the "Emet is Amon" theories and laughing their asses off? Those were a thing?
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Dec 13, 2021 01:56
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Arist posted:I'm number 3,777 in queue right now, so let me be clear: this situation absolutely loving sucks. But, like, come on. There's just no reasonable way for the devteam to have either meaningfully mitigated or even properly anticipated the scale of the login problems. Agreed. But please promise to post to post when you get down to like 500 after 3 hours and you lose position and go back to the 4k queue
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Dec 13, 2021 01:57
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also: all the elephant people are absolutely delightful
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Dec 13, 2021 01:57
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vhweltall posted:I dunno, I say things about my significant other that aren’t true when I’m pissed off. It’s still a valid exercise. maybe you should calm down then idk Nodosaur posted:also: all the elephant people are absolutely delightful 10000%
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Dec 13, 2021 01:57
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Nodosaur posted:I finished up to the first dungeon. I recommend playing that raid sometime while you're going through the MSQ vhweltall posted:I dunno, I say things about my significant other that aren’t true when I’m pissed off. It’s still a valid exercise. uh what
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Kyrosiris posted:"hey this poo poo sucks, I wish I could play yeah that guy needs to be shunned, unironic
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Dec 13, 2021 01:58
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Nodosaur posted:Those were a thing? They sure were.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:58
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S.J. posted:maybe you should calm down then idk I’m sure they will once people stop calling them stupid.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:58
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I recommend playing that raid sometime while you're going through the MSQ Honestly I think I've probably fought Amon at least every other week just from alliance roulettes for like... a long time now. e: maybe not quite that often but still ee: vhweltall posted:I’m sure they will once people stop calling them stupid. Doubtful but also lol S.J. fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Dec 13, 2021 |
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Dec 13, 2021 01:58
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I recommend playing that raid sometime while you're going through the MSQ
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Dec 13, 2021 01:59
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Arist posted:I'm number 3,777 in queue right now, so let me be clear: this situation absolutely loving sucks. But, like, come on. There's just no reasonable way for the devteam to have either meaningfully mitigated or even properly anticipated the scale of the login problems. The 2002 issue seems like it's on them tbh. The second rate infrastructure the game is built on has been an onrunning joke in the community for years, you can't brush that aside now it's causing an acute problem
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Dec 13, 2021 01:59
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hopeandjoy posted:They sure were. weird people fixated on precisely that one boss then BUT APPARENTLY SO DID THE WRITERS, JUST ELSEWHERE
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That boss is pretty iconic in the series history
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Arist posted:I'm number 3,777 in queue right now, so let me be clear: this situation absolutely loving sucks. But, like, come on. There's just no reasonable way for the devteam to have either meaningfully mitigated or even properly anticipated the scale of the login problems. Oh absolutely, but at the same time there really should be something in place to hold your spot if you crash. A lot of other games do it, and they already have a flag that says that the character experienced an unexpected logoff.
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multijoe posted:The 2002 issue seems like it's on them tbh. The second rate infrastructure the game is built on has been an onrunning joke in the community for years, you can't brush that aside now it's causing an acute problem Has it, though? The last time I had any significant backend issues pre-Endwalker was during the huge initial Asmongold surge, since I had the misfortune of being on Aether, and the last time I had before that was loving Stormblood.
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Dec 13, 2021 02:01
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I finished all of the DoW/DoM ShB relics before Endwalker dropped. But delaying the DoH/DoL ShB relics until Endwalker dropped is paying off now that I can Trained Eye all but the last step! Mwuhahahahahaha!
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Nodosaur posted:weird people fixated on precisely that one boss then Well, he's kind of the lynchpin of the whole raid series, weirdly. The backstory is that he's the one who decided to revive Xande, and perfected the cloning technology to do so. Plus he has a flair for the dramatic like Emet, using the same snap animation for some of his attacks.
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Dec 13, 2021 02:02
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Oh absolutely, but at the same time there really should be something in place to hold your spot if you crash. A lot of other games do it, and they already have a flag that says that the character experienced an unexpected logoff.
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Begemot posted:Well, he's kind of the lynchpin of the whole raid series, weirdly. The backstory is that he's the one who decided to revive Xande, and perfected the cloning technology to do so. Plus he has a flair for the dramatic like Emet, using the same snap animation for some of his attacks. Point taken.
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Nodosaur posted:Those were a thing? Oh yeah, in here and elsewhere. There wasn’t anything in particular in the game to actually support it, but ”Emet was Amon” and “Emet was Xande” were fairly popular fan theories. The truth is so much better though. I do wonder how much time Yoship and crew spent laughing at all of our dumbass theories leading up to EW.
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Dec 13, 2021 02:04
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homeless snail posted:It does, you have about 15 minutes in my experience to get back in queue. If you crash during the queue yes it saves your spot. It doesnt give you priority if you crash while in game which is what I'm talking about.
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Dec 13, 2021 02:04
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ImpAtom posted:AWS literally went down this week. The best part is that due to this, there was a very real chance that all of the character data for every server on New World's east coast data center was just permanently gone. It seems like they've been able to recover it from a backup, but lol.
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wizardofloneliness posted:Oh yeah, in here and elsewhere. There wasn’t anything in particular in the game to actually support it, but ”Emet was Amon” and “Emet was Xande” were fairly popular fan theories. The truth is so much better though. I do wonder how much time Yoship and crew spent laughing at all of our dumbass theories leading up to EW. Makes me wonder if Fandaniel being Amon was them trying to intentionally subvert things.
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Dec 13, 2021 02:08
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Waffleman_ posted:The best part is that due to this, there was a very real chance that all of the character data for every server on New World's east coast data center was just permanently gone. It seems like they've been able to recover it from a backup, but lol. What in the world
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Consummate Professional posted:What in the world Oh yeah, people were not able to get their characters!
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Whenever things seem dire in FFXIV remember: you could always be playing New World instead.
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also Fandaniel: Okay I left my clone in Syrcus Tower. Emet: Wh Emet: Why did you make him giant
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