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Don't worry candle factory victims - help is surely on the way What a terrible society
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SpaceCadetBob posted:wow thats loving horrifying. this thing get the ef5 rating officially yet?
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Dec 12, 2021 17:46
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"Please be patient with us," like are people being that nuts about wanting the rating? What difference does it make, it's not like it's around anymore. Sit back and go with a rating of "it hosed poo poo up" folks.
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Dec 12, 2021 18:12
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shirts and skins posted:"Please be patient with us," like are people being that nuts about wanting the rating? What difference does it make, it's not like it's around anymore. Sit back and go with a rating of "it hosed poo poo up" folks. yea there were people on Twitter screaming about both how long it took to get the rating & claiming that it somehow is offensive to the families to not know what the rating is or to rate it lower than it truly is (???) governors briefing today was that there were 40 rescues from that factory and they aren’t expecting to find more survivors. shits hosed
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Dec 12, 2021 18:16
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shirts and skins posted:"Please be patient with us," like are people being that nuts about wanting the rating? What difference does it make, it's not like it's around anymore. Sit back and go with a rating of "it hosed poo poo up" folks. Amateur weather nerds are among the more insane internet subcultures.
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Dec 12, 2021 18:21
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"why haven't you done 250 miles worth of damage assessment already" I shout at the bird site
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Dec 12, 2021 18:27
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shirts and skins posted:"Please be patient with us," like are people being that nuts about wanting the rating? What difference does it make, it's not like it's around anymore. Sit back and go with a rating of "it hosed poo poo up" folks. It's directed at the media as well, who basically want to know what the damage rating is in real time.
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Dec 12, 2021 18:29
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OK baizuo posted:Found a before/after pic of that candle factory Spend less on candle factories
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Dec 12, 2021 18:33
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Simple solution, rebuild the candle factory onsite at the prison so that prison guards can make sure those inmates stick to their workstations instead of slacking off and helping rescue people when the building collapses again
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Dec 12, 2021 18:37
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Johnny Cache Hit posted:yea there were people on Twitter screaming about both how long it took to get the rating & claiming that it somehow is offensive to the families to not know what the rating is or to rate it lower than it truly is (???) the only proof of god's love in 2021 is when he kills us with the most extreme version of his most extreme phenomena would you drat them all with a mere EF4 rating, or by suggesting there was anything we could have done to prevent or mitigate the outcome?
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Dec 12, 2021 18:50
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SirPablo posted:It's directed at the media as well, who basically want to know what the damage rating is in real time. Minute-by-minute media updates have hosed with peoples' brains.
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Dec 12, 2021 19:15
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Omnicarus posted:Amateur weather nerds are among the more insane internet subcultures. Storm chasers crave that EF5 rating so they can attach their brand to a notorious tornado and increase the market value of any footage they may have gotten. It also makes them feel tough and masculine, that they've stared down the roughest nature could throw down and come through unscathed. This, predictably, leads to a lot of whining at the Weather Service when the tornado they've hyped up as the among themselves as the strongest, worst tornado ever isn't backed up by the reality on the ground.
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Dec 12, 2021 19:16
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Fetlife Kuli posted:Storm chasers crave that EF5 rating so they can attach their brand to a notorious tornado and increase the market value of any footage they may have gotten. It also makes them feel tough and masculine, that they've stared down the roughest nature could throw down and come through unscathed. Trainspotters can be loving weird but it's wild to see a group obsessed with numbers over a disaster that kills people.
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Dec 12, 2021 19:29
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DesertIslandHermit posted:Trainspotters can be loving weird but it's wild to see a group obsessed with numbers over a disaster that kills people. Is it human nature that whatever impacts me has the be the biggest/worst ever? I'd blame media, too. Hype is a helluva drug.
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Dec 12, 2021 23:06
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The US is just going to be gradually destroyed by worsening weather because we are incapable of responding to disaster or repairing infrastructure or anything outside of profit chasing
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Dec 12, 2021 23:44
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:Spend less on candle factories lol also 
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Dec 12, 2021 23:48
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Omnicarus posted:Amateur weather nerds are among the more insane internet subcultures. somehow worse than train people
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Dec 12, 2021 23:51
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For the last few weeks I've been decompressing by watching youtube videos of people reviewing capsule cabins on Japanese ferries and eating vending machine food. As soon as I watched a single video of the tornado's aftermath youtube's been flooding my recommendations with videos of the 2011 Tōhoku tsunami
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Dec 13, 2021 00:52
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BOGO LOAD posted:For the last few weeks I've been decompressing by watching youtube videos of people reviewing capsule cabins on Japanese ferries and eating vending machine food. you have to carefully curate your youtube watch history like a bonzai tree. trim anything that isnt your vision from your watch history. I only want my recommended list to be the certain type of lovely electronic music I like so I make sure to open schadenfreude/political/weather videos in an anonymous browser tab or to delete them from my watch history right away
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Dec 13, 2021 00:59
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Good idea. I should just start from scratch and make sure to watch nothing but videos of Italo Disco and Belgian New Beat.
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Dec 13, 2021 01:04
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BOGO LOAD posted:For the last few weeks I've been decompressing by watching youtube videos of people reviewing capsule cabins on Japanese ferries and eating vending machine food. me too, that channel's really chill and dude loves his Japanese Curry which I can relate to
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Dec 13, 2021 01:19
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:you have to carefully curate your youtube watch history like a bonzai tree. trim anything that isnt your vision from your watch history. I only want my recommended list to be the certain type of lovely electronic music I like so I make sure to open schadenfreude/political/weather videos in an anonymous browser tab or to delete them from my watch history right away watching any Bill Burr YouTube video nukes my recommendations harder than anything else I watch on YouTube. I will not stop, but perhaps I should clean up my watch history
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Dec 13, 2021 01:29
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Dec 13, 2021 01:56
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Omnicarus posted:Amateur weather nerds are among the more insane internet subcultures. The drama from the self appointed storm chasers that descended on Louisiana during Ida was absurd
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Dec 13, 2021 02:17
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MY HOUSE IS GONE
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:you have to carefully curate your youtube watch history like a bonzai tree. trim anything that isnt your vision from your watch history. I only want my recommended list to be the certain type of lovely electronic music I like so I make sure to open schadenfreude/political/weather videos in an anonymous browser tab or to delete them from my watch history right away Real bonsai trees have gone extinct because there's no longer any winter dormancy period
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Dec 13, 2021 02:20
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Dec 13, 2021 02:21
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DesertIslandHermit posted:Trainspotters can be loving weird but it's wild to see a group obsessed with numbers over a disaster that kills people. now I'm imagining this dude, but with an E5 tossing a trailer home by https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2g0C7Lz-qG0
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Dec 13, 2021 02:21
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:"why haven't you done 250 miles worth of damage assessment already" I shout at the bird site https://www.weather.gov/oun/efscale this is the scale they use, theres "degree of damage" indicators and they need to find damage consistent with a degree of damage for an EF5 tornado. this means that a tornado, however violent that only touches grass will never be anything other than ef0 so heres the fun problem with this tornado, lets take a look at the degrees of damage for a "tilt up wall" warehouse or a "metal building system" warehouse: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/efscale/23.html https://www.spc.noaa.gov/efscale/21.html they're basically the same but heres the tilt up warehouse one:  EF5 damage starts at 200 mph winds. completely destroying the amazon warehouse and the factory is EF4 damage.
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Dec 13, 2021 02:33
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Spergin Morlock posted:MY HOUSE IS GONE maybe a 'nado ate your baby
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Dec 13, 2021 02:53
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Does the official rating factor into anything like how much relief is guaranteed by insurance or government agencies? This may be a dumb question and I'm sorry if so.
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Dec 13, 2021 04:16
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Atrocious Joe posted:The drama from the self appointed storm chasers that descended on Louisiana during Ida was absurd sir do not disparage Jeff in this thread but no seriously that ChicagoMWeather guy's ongoing meltdown and grifting was hilarious
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Dec 13, 2021 04:18
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my cat is norris posted:Does the official rating factor into anything like how much relief is guaranteed by insurance or government agencies? This may be a dumb question and I'm sorry if so. Not really, it's more a matter of record-keeping and understanding risk/best practices going forward. Insurance companies can be sketchy tho. They might deny coverage based on what a storm is called. I remember with Sandy the National Hurricane Center officially continued to call it a hurricane right up to landfall, but right before landfall 'downgraded' it to an extratropical cyclone. Their reasoning was that this allowed them to keep issuing advisories (once extratropical the Weather Prediction Center would have had to take over) and continue using their equipment for data collection. They also didn't want people to think that because it wasn't a hurricane anymore, it was less dangerous. Unofficially, another reason was that a lot of home insurance policies in the northeast cover damage from nor'easters, but don't cover hurricane damage. So partly it was making sure the applied terminology didn't gently caress over homeowners.
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my cat is norris posted:Does the official rating factor into anything like how much relief is guaranteed by insurance or government agencies? This may be a dumb question and I'm sorry if so. Yea not as far as I know.l I'd say the main purposes are for future research and documentation of significant events. All of the storm reports NWS offices generate eventually end up in StormData. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/ The other poster's above comment is true for things like "the hurricane didn't destroy your house, the hurricane fueled storm surge did. That's flood damage and since you didn't have flood insurance lol"
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Dec 13, 2021 05:00
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it wasn't the 232 mph wind from the tornado, it was the semi-truck that removed your house from its foundation
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Dec 13, 2021 05:03
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Fetlife Kuli posted:Not really, it's more a matter of record-keeping and understanding risk/best practices going forward. I enjoyed watching all the newspapers call it “Hurricane Sandy” and issue corrections that it was now “Superstorm Sandy” or similar.
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Thanks both for the response. Makes sense! 
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Dec 13, 2021 05:28
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A Bakers Cousin posted:it wasn't the 232 mph wind from the tornado, it was the semi-truck that removed your house from its foundation Dying WITH 2*4 impalement not OF a tornado.
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[Government issues warning of impending tornado, says "seek shelter immediately!"] They can't tell me what to do! [dies in tornado]
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