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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

trickybiscuits posted:

I was furious having to go to Las Vegas on vacation with my family at 16. And not just because Las Vegas sucks. Teenagers just don't want to be with their families sometimes. Fact of nature.
The kid's bitching about not getting a PC for Xmas and his family has enough funds to at least get a front for a hotel, and if they're in the US some expensive medical treatment. He presumably has a smartphone or laptop, and barring that some basic books. Like yeah it sucks but a hotel's gonna have places he can chill and read/write and generally do poo poo without being tied to his stressed-out parents and let his sibling get the attention. Certainly not ideal, definitely lonely, but like... if that's your idea of "bad" then you have it really loving good.

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

trickybiscuits posted:

I was furious having to go to Las Vegas on vacation with my family at 16. And not just because Las Vegas sucks. Teenagers just don't want to be with their families sometimes. Fact of nature.

I don't think that's the same thing as "I don't give a poo poo about my dumb sister's cancer treatment"

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

QuarkJets posted:

I don't think that's the same thing as "I don't give a poo poo about my dumb sister's cancer treatment"

It's worse.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

Motronic posted:

Yeah......this all depends on what kind of parents they have. Don't get me wrong, teenagers are by-brain-chemistry gonna be idiots about some things. That can't be helped by anything other than time. But the "not having chores" when the definition of those are "knowing how to and that you NEDD TO do things that won't end you up in this thread" shouldn't be a high bar.

My nephew and niece have super indulgent parents, ones that, even at age 17 and 15, don't bring their dishes to the kitchen (they'll make their own breakfasts and leave everything on the stove or table or counters), clean up their rooms, or, well, have any real chores to do. A few years ago I house/kidsat over the winter break, and they were aghast that I assigned chores: one of you is responsible for picking up the dog poop, one is responsible for unloading the dishwasher. Parents come back in town and were very impressed I had them doing chores. And the second I left, the parents went back to doing everything for them.


I am prepared to see threads about them in the next few years.



AITA for marrying my father's ex?

quote:

This may be a bit of an odd one for some. My dad has never liked women his own age. Once he divorced my mom he's been chasing women all over. And he's gotten plastic surgery, so he easily looks a lot younger than he is. Every woman he dates is between the ages of 18 to 25. And the longest he seemed to date any of them was two years. Well a couple years ago he was dating a wonderful redhead with glasses I'll call Suzan for this post. One can describe her as a really cute and sexy girl next door type. She's really smart and I adore her. Well two years ago I was 21 and she was 24. We met when my dad showed her off as his most current squeeze. I say "Squeeze" because that's a word he liked to use for it.

Suzan and I really got along. So much so that I couldn't bear to see my dad break her heart like all the others. So when I got a chance to talk to her alone I told her about all the other women, and my dad's actual age because he'd lied about that too. She at first thought I was messing with her. But then saw I was serious. I dropped a few names of some women and said she could talk to them on FB. Well she did and found out what my dad was really like. And believe it or not, he was already cheating on Suzan with a girl that was barely out of high school. My dad actually tried to suggest they have an open relationship. But she walked out on him.

Suzan and I met up to talk after she broke up with my dad, and we just seemed to hit it off. Then we had a few drinks. Then a few more. Then we were waking up next to each other. A few weeks later Suzan showed me a positive pregnancy test. But she wasn't sure if it was mine or my dad's. So we got a DNA test as soon as the baby was far enough along. And it was mine. And I was actually happy about it. And Suzan was happy that I was happy. We took things a little fast and moved in together, had a baby girl, and eventually decided we should get married once we could afford it.

My mom was less than ecstatic about me marrying my dad's ex. And my dad got seriously drunk at my wedding reception and made a huge scene. He told me that I stole his best girl. And my mom backed him up by saying that it was just sick that I was married to a woman my dad had been with sexually. And a few other family members on my mom's side actually came forward too and called my family a poo poo show. My dad yelled that I broke the bro code, and then accused me of doing it just to take Suzan away from him to begin with.

I told all the naysayers to get out. And they left under protest. There is more than enough family on my side. But I feel responsible for this whole mess. I love Suzan and have no regrets about marrying her. But should I have never started the relationship in the first place?

DorkusMalorkus
Aug 4, 2009

"That's not Latin!"

Cowslips Warren posted:

AITA for marrying my father's ex?

quote:

I love Suzan and have no regrets about marrying her. But should I have never started the relationship in the first place?

I mean if the two of you are happy, I guess it's fine. Probably should have just eloped and/or gone low/no contact with your shitshow family though.

Fatty
Sep 13, 2004
Not really fat

mind the walrus posted:

The kid's bitching about not getting a PC for Xmas and his family has enough funds to at least get a front for a hotel, and if they're in the US some expensive medical treatment. He presumably has a smartphone or laptop, and barring that some basic books. Like yeah it sucks but a hotel's gonna have places he can chill and read/write and generally do poo poo without being tied to his stressed-out parents and let his sibling get the attention. Certainly not ideal, definitely lonely, but like... if that's your idea of "bad" then you have it really loving good.

There's also the fact a specialist hospital is likely to be in a major city. Why not spend some time exploring this far away city he's never been to?

Evil Willow
Apr 26, 2007
Bored now...

Cowslips Warren posted:

WIBTA if I leave my husbands affair baby with my MIL while the rest of us go on vacation

From comments:





This woman! Wow....

AITA for not inviting my husband’s mistress and her child to my daughters party

quote:

I (f37) and my husband, George (m58) have been married for 16 years and dated for 19 . We have 3 children (f17,Sarah m12, Joey and f6, Izzy ). Seven years ago around the time when my youngest was conceived my husband began an affair with one of his college students , Leah (f25) as a result she became pregnant . I was heartbroken and planned on divorcing George but than I found out I was pregnant with Izzy . We went to therapy he took accountability and ended with Leah . My youngest and Leah’s kid (Chris) are only a couple weeks apart therefore are in the same grade . To my dismay George wanted to be in Chris’s life so I knew that him and Izzy had the same teacher this year. I tried to get the classes changed but the school didn’t allow it,I thought of changing schools but my oldest is a senior and is desperate to graduate with her friends so I decided to suck it up . Chris and Izzy became close friends and even began to see each other as siblings which sucks because when my husband decided to be apart of that child’s life I made sure that the homewrecker’s child and my children stayed away from each other . Izzy’s birthday is coming up and we are planning this huge winter theme birthday she came up with a list of friends she wants invited and Leah’s child is on that list . I refused to allow that thing’s child to be at my daughters party George’s Argued that he’s izzy’s brother and that he shouldn’t be excluded but I disagree, his existences almost caused me my marriage ,His mother called me and said that I shouldn’t take my anger out on both children’s happiness , I called her a whore and blocked her .

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

Cowslips Warren posted:

My nephew and niece have super indulgent parents, ones that, even at age 17 and 15, don't bring their dishes to the kitchen (they'll make their own breakfasts and leave everything on the stove or table or counters), clean up their rooms, or, well, have any real chores to do. A few years ago I house/kidsat over the winter break, and they were aghast that I assigned chores: one of you is responsible for picking up the dog poop, one is responsible for unloading the dishwasher. Parents come back in town and were very impressed I had them doing chores. And the second I left, the parents went back to doing everything for them.


I am prepared to see threads about them in the next few years.

This is the fourth or fifth time you've ranted about how much your teenage relatives suck for doing normal teenage things and how much better you are than them, so I'm guessing they've already made some r/r posts about you.

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard
r/relationships: My dad yelled that I broke the bro code

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

packetmantis posted:

This is the fourth or fifth time you've ranted about how much your teenage relatives suck for doing normal teenage things and how much better you are than them, so I'm guessing they've already made some r/r posts about you.

This post is weirder than him bragging about being the chore uncle.

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

I think they only mentioned those teens once before lol

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
quick, use the internet to find out

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

packetmantis posted:

This is the fourth or fifth time you've ranted about how much your teenage relatives suck for doing normal teenage things and how much better you are than them, so I'm guessing they've already made some r/r posts about you.

They don't suck, they're teenagers. They're supposed to push boundaries and figure themselves out. It's when they don't have the proper help to learn from poo poo that they will one day end up in a thread like this. There's not much I can do when I don't see them much, and their parents don't teach them. poo poo, nephew once stole $100, and they only told him not to do it again.


quote:

AITA for not inviting my husband’s mistress and her child to my daughters party

Goddamn. I always love the sheer hatred for the out-of-wedlock/cheat child and so little anger for the husband/cheater. Game of Thrones was spot-on about that at least.


AITA for not wanting to say vows at my dad's wedding?

quote:

My dad is getting married in a few months. His future wife has kids a lot younger than me (16 vs 5 and 4). They thought it would be a great idea for us to have sibling vows during their wedding but I don't want to do that. They essentially want us to swear that we'll be siblings always. And that's not something I am looking at them as. I don't love them now. And I can't promise to always love them if I don't to begin with. I also feel really weird with this pressure on me but they already ran it by the pastor and stuff. I said no. I told them they couldn't make me do them. They're mad and accusing me of being cruel to her kids and how I'm going to make things harder on us being a family.

AITA?

My parents divorced when I was older, and I didn't have any contact with my stepbrothers until we were all adults. "Sibling vows" is something new?

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
From a different subreddit, Malicious Complaince (which has been watered down with people just bitching about work/bosses), comes a surprise entry;

"I'll cut down your hours so you'll be forced to quit." "Yes, please!"

quote:

This happened almost ten years ago. I was teaching I.T. in a professional school and was getting near two years of employment. In my country, at the time, once you completed one year at a company you had the right to take one month of paid vacations, but the employer could held it till right before your second mandatory vacation period came along. So the school had no choice but arrange everything for my leave of absense.

Problem was, they had no one to put in my place during said month. When the topic came up, I gladly offered to help them hire someone and even train this person before taking my leave. All would go well if there wasn't some drama getting set up in the background.

A few months back our teaching manager had quit in a dramatic way. She was having a relationship with a student, which was heavily against school's policies, and to make it even worse, the student in question was my own daughter. I was against it, but kept quiet cause my daughter asked me to and said she was happy (much later I found out it was an abusive relationship and blamed myself for not giving voice to my concerns when it was time, but this is a story for another day and probably another sub). So she decided to quit as a way to not get fired once higher ups found out about the affair.

We kept in touch, mostly because of my daughter, but the friendship we once had was affected permanently. Unfortunatly, this wasn't the perception of school's managers. Gossip went around about how I wasn't to be trusted because of my connection to the former manager, but none of it reached my ears because I simply never engaged in this kind of talks and simply kept to myself. The school eventually hired a former teacher to fill the vacant position in the teaching department, and at the time I had no clue why they had not offered me the job.

[snip]

The rest of the post is unremarkable, but Gee, I wonder why they wanted you gone?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Cowslips Warren posted:

AITA for not wanting to say vows at my dad's wedding?

My parents divorced when I was older, and I didn't have any contact with my stepbrothers until we were all adults. "Sibling vows" is something new?
Nah "sibling vows" ain't normal. This is some creepy and vaguely narcissistic poo poo to try and force an image.

Serephina posted:

"I'll cut down your hours so you'll be forced to quit." "Yes, please!"

The rest of the post is unremarkable, but Gee, I wonder why they wanted you gone?
:kstare: That's like a quarter season of Riverdale seen from the side.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Evil Willow posted:

This woman! Wow....

AITA for not inviting my husband’s mistress and her child to my daughters party

I didn't read really any of that after the first sentence and started doing math while muttering "Please be a typo, please be a typo..."

Evil Willow
Apr 26, 2007
Bored now...
AITA for giving the PS5 my Husband bought to my Nephew?

quote:

I am a 35 year old woman and my husband is 37, I discovered the other day he had bought a PS5 as a gift for himself, but the thing is he used my money to do so without my permission using a portion of my emergency savings that he had access to in case of you know, an emergency. Which I do not believe being able to get your hands on a new video game console classes as.

This led to a huge argument and I took the console away and reboxed it up, I debated on returning it to the shop for the money but I know my sister has been struggling to find one for my 13 year old Nephew for over a year, so instead I wrapped it up and took it round to hers and put it under the tree and quietly explained what it was and what had happened, my sister then gave me the money for it.

My husband went ballistic shouting and demanding I go get it back which I of course refused to do, telling him as it had been bought with my money it was my choice what happened to it. He is now sulking and refusing to talk to me and acting like a huge child.

Edit: For anyone curious about our money situation and why i'm so angry, we each put half our salary into a communal family fund for the house, bills, groceries etc. The other half is ours to play with as we want, my husband always blows through his and never saves a penny, half of my expendable money goes into savings for emergencies as i'm more realistic.

Second Edit: Stating here because of comments, He refused to pay me back as it was an "emergency"

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Serephina posted:

From a different subreddit, Malicious Complaince (which has been watered down with people just bitching about work/bosses), comes a surprise entry;

"I'll cut down your hours so you'll be forced to quit." "Yes, please!"

Why would you include that information? Why?

So many of these posts need an editor to just cut out the 90% of them which is irrelevant bullshit.

Or the horrifying poo poo, like in that post.

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard
I'm sympathetic to the 15 year that doesn't want to spend 2 weeks in a hotel with his family. I spent 3 weeks with my family in a nice hotel in a strange city when I was 16. It suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. This was pre-smartphone, but there was a pool and a legitimate breakfast every morning and I've never been so out of my mind with boredom. There wasn't anything near the hotel and I didn't have any money if there had been. My parents were busy and had other stuff on their minds, me and my siblings just went stir-crazy.

At that age you can't drive yourself anywhere and being in a strange city means your friends can't help either. It's not unreasonable for the kid to be asked to come, but the parents should really see if there is someone else he could stay with. He can't help much if at all and they're just going to get pissed at him for being annoying while his sister is hurt. They're going to be basically ignoring him anyways to prioritize his sister.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
i remember being on a cruise with my family when i was 15 and it sucked because i was too fat to gently caress and the cabin was too small to jerk it with my folks about. also no smart phone etc

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

kntfkr posted:

i remember being on a cruise with my family when i was 15 and it sucked because i was too fat to gently caress and the cabin was too small to jerk it with my folks about. also no smart phone etc
Also I bet there weren't any geese on the cruise anyway

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Uncle Enzo posted:

I'm sympathetic to the 15 year that doesn't want to spend 2 weeks in a hotel with his family. I spent 3 weeks with my family in a nice hotel in a strange city when I was 16. It suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. This was pre-smartphone, but there was a pool and a legitimate breakfast every morning and I've never been so out of my mind with boredom. There wasn't anything near the hotel and I didn't have any money if there had been. My parents were busy and had other stuff on their minds, me and my siblings just went stir-crazy.

At that age you can't drive yourself anywhere and being in a strange city means your friends can't help either. It's not unreasonable for the kid to be asked to come, but the parents should really see if there is someone else he could stay with. He can't help much if at all and they're just going to get pissed at him for being annoying while his sister is hurt. They're going to be basically ignoring him anyways to prioritize his sister.
Yeah, this. If he wanted to be there specifically as a support for his sister, that could be useful for her. As it is, his boredom seems like it's just going to stress her out more and probably lead to some lovely sibling arguments going down during what has to be the scariest time of her life so far. If there's no way someone else can care for him during this time, it's reasonable to take him as a last resort, but it's not actually, like... beneficial to his sister.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
Seagulls just aren't the same, I assume.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

Martman posted:

Also I bet there weren't any geese on the cruise anyway

it was a disney cruise so i had my pick of bottomless ducks but it just ain't the same

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
the big red boat was an infinitely better family vacation because there was an arcade that had battletoads on free play and a bunch of snk cabinets

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
WIBTA for keeping our baby's name private until after the birth?

quote:

I'm currently pregnant with our second child and we are in quite the conundrum with sharing the baby's name.

With our first child, we told our friends and family everything, but with this baby, my husband and I are wanting to keep things a bit more private. A HUGE factor in this is my mother. The woman cannot keep a secret to save her life and not only does she spill the beans to every person she sees (friends, family, coworkers, and even strangers), but she also has the bad habit of posting it on social media.

Ever since we announced our second pregnancy, we've been repeatedly hounded about the baby's name to the point where I can't even have a conversation without it turning into a guessing game. Since the constant guessing is getting to be a bit much (not to mention, they've actually gotten quite close to the actual name), my husband and I decided we'd announce the name for Christmas to our families with the strict rule that it was not to be told to anyone else and had to be kept a secret.

A recent phone call to my mother, however, made me immediately change my mind. She told me that even if she was sworn to secrecy, she wouldn't be able to keep the name to herself and would have to share it because she "doesn't keep secrets". She went on to say that her coworkers and family are pressuring her to find out because they don't understand how she doesn't know the name we've chosen and even insinuated they thought she was a bad mother for not knowing.

The guilt and pressure to tell is eating me up inside.

Maybe it's silly, but this is a name I've had picked out since I was a little girl and the thought of it just being shared with anyone without any thought to our feelings, makes me want to keep it a secret as long as I can.

WIBTA for continuing to keep this private or should we give our families what they so desperately want?

coronatae
Oct 14, 2012

NTA everyone has a loving opinion on baby names so if you don't want to hear any of them then don't tell anyone until the baby is born

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


QuarkJets posted:

This. 100% I would accept overtime pay to get swole.

1 1/2 hours of daily exercise plus a gallon of water a day would without a doubt put me in urgent care.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

You can tell it's not a real fitness plan because it's not GOMAD

gallon of milk a day

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

QuarkJets posted:

This. 100% I would accept overtime pay to get swole.

Someone in another thread mentioned their partner works at a hospital and, if you do 30 minutes of exercise in the gym a day, get an extra day off every couple weeks.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Brother's girlfriend thinks I bullied her in high school. I don't remember her, and her story seems... off... but I can't come to Christmas unless I apologise.

quote:

TLDR Brother (28m)'s GF (26f) thinks I (26f) bullied her in high school. I don't remember her but apologised because I was a bitch back then but she wanted a more heartfelt and specific apology, so I asked her what specifically she wanted me to apologise for, and the specifics don't make sense IMO but unless I apologise for them, I can't come to family Christmas.

My brother (Jack) is dating (Jess). I met her in summer, and she said we'd gone to secondary (high) school together. She seemed upset I didn't remember her so I apologised and she said it was fine and then she walked away. I'm engaged to a guy I went to high school with and still in touch with a friend from school, so I messaged both of them, and asked them if they remembered Jess and neither did so I figured that Jess just wasn't in my classes and that's why I couldn't place her.

That night Jack messaged saying I really upset Jess once again. I was like 'again?' and he says that Jess says I used to bully her. I'm not going to say I was a great person in high school. I had a lot of friends but I was going through a lot of poo poo, so I could be nice but could also often be just a raging bitch. I never targeted or tormented anyone, and I truly do not think it crossed into bully territory, but I could be very rude and sarcastic. I was definitely an arsehole, but bully is a bit far IMO.

Jack said I had to text him an apology so he could show it to Jess, so I sent a generic apology text because I don't know what I actually did, and could only assume I was an arse to Jess at some point. Jack called me out on it being generic and said I needed to be specific. I told Jack that I didn't remember Jess so if she wants a specific apology she needs to tell me what I am apologising for.

Jess says I stole her boyfriend, gave her an eating disorder, and stopped her getting into her dream university. And here is where the story gets sketchy, because the guy Jess claims to have been dating at the time was a liar who told people we hooked up when we didn't. As for the eating disorder, I was a bitch, but I would never encourage someone to develop an ED, as I had an ED myself and BDD so I was not about to make someone else feel bad about their body when I felt like poo poo about mine. As for the university, Jess says I made her fail an exam, and failing it kept her out of uni. I have literally no idea what she means. I'm also pretty sure that Jess and I went to different sixth forms, and sixth forms are where you do A levels, which are the ones that get you into uni, so I have no idea how it's possible for me to have messed up her A Levels when we weren't in the same school.

But bottom line is that she believes that I am personally responsible for all of this. Jack says that Jess said that where she's at in life now is all down to me bullying her. I still I don't remember any of it, and I actually feel like I remember less with every new piece of info she gives me because it just seems... off. Maybe I'm in denial and I need to take a hard look in the mirror, but until then I'm having an issue giving a sincere apology, and without an sincere apology, I am not allowed to attend Christmas. I haven't seen my relatives in ages and I'm already in isolation in preparation and my kids are really excited so it would suck to not be able to go after all of this, but my dad is siding with Jack and Jess and has said that he wants a calm Christmas so if I don't deal with the high school drama, I'm not invited.

How do I apologise for something I don't remember and resolve this with the least possible drama?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

quote:

How do I apologise for something I don't remember and resolve this with the least possible drama?

"I'm sorry that that the day I graced your life it was the worst day of your life. But for me, it was a Tuesday."

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
the op sounds like a bitch cuz tone but you can't blame someone else on making you fail an exam

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

Uncle Enzo posted:

I'm sympathetic to the 15 year that doesn't want to spend 2 weeks in a hotel with his family. I spent 3 weeks with my family in a nice hotel in a strange city when I was 16. It suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. This was pre-smartphone, but there was a pool and a legitimate breakfast every morning and I've never been so out of my mind with boredom. There wasn't anything near the hotel and I didn't have any money if there had been. My parents were busy and had other stuff on their minds, me and my siblings just went stir-crazy.

The Las Vegas vacation was also pretty long (we were also visiting family elsewhere) and pre-smartphone. And we didn't do ANYTHING I found interesting. Years later my parents visited the southwest again and one of the things they did was to visit- I think it was Mesa Verde but I'm not sure. One of those cliff dwellings. I love history and would have been thrilled to do something like that.

Part of it was being stuck with family ALL THE TIME and not having any time to myself, and another big part of it was the absolute lack of control over any part of my situation. At one point my family staged some sort of intervention because I was checking out of things- just sitting and staring at the carpet and they thought something was really wrong. (Confronting me about it was not the best way to have handled it.) I just had no other way to have any time to myself. At sixteen. For two weeks straight. At least I hadn't discovered masturbation yet!

Piell posted:

WIBTA for keeping our baby's name private until after the birth?
Don't tell the name, don't talk with anybody who's nagging you until the baby is born

And none of the mom's co-workers or friends care about the baby name, mom's just got the baby rabies.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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It sounds like they both had a lot of personal stuff going on and Jess just noticed OP a lot more than OP noticed her and got into a cycle of comparing herself negatively to OP. Like OP probably was a raging rear end in a top hat to Jess sometimes but it sounds like she was a raging rear end in a top hat to everyone?

I don't even know what she can do about it, like, idk if it would come off as blame dodging for OP to go 'I was never involved with that guy, and I'm really sorry you were struggling with an ED, I was struggling with one myself.' Like the thing is memory is a lot more subjective than people think and it's very possible OP made some heinous comments about Jess that hit right in her weak spot she genuinely doesn't remember making.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

PetraCore posted:

It sounds like they both had a lot of personal stuff going on and Jess just noticed OP a lot more than OP noticed her and got into a cycle of comparing herself negatively to OP. Like OP probably was a raging rear end in a top hat to Jess sometimes but it sounds like she was a raging rear end in a top hat to everyone?

I don't even know what she can do about it, like, idk if it would come off as blame dodging for OP to go 'I was never involved with that guy, and I'm really sorry you were struggling with an ED, I was struggling with one myself.' Like the thing is memory is a lot more subjective than people think and it's very possible OP made some heinous comments about Jess that hit right in her weak spot she genuinely doesn't remember making.

From the comments the whole thing about "no it needs to be a specific apology about these things, and also I want you to text it" it really sounds like she doesn't want an apology, she wants an admission of guilt

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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reignonyourparade posted:

From the comments the whole thing about "no it needs to be a specific apology about these things, and also I want you to text it" it really sounds like she doesn't want an apology, she wants an admission of guilt
Yeah. What I'm trying to say is like... when you're going through a poo poo time it can be easy to fixate on specific people as the cause of that poo poo time. Sometimes it's true, like if you're being specifically abused or someone is in charge of large institutional failures that are contributing to the poo poo time, but sometimes your own mental poo poo time is making everything negative stick out more. I dunno what exact order this happened in, but it sounds like Jess had a poo poo boyfriend or poo poo crush and when that guy claimed to have slept with OP it made Jess see her as The Rival, and possibly Jess compared herself to OP a lot and that contributed to the form her eating disorder took, even if OP was just being a general bitch and not actually attacking Jess' body.

But there's nothing OP can really say to that other than clarifying that she wasn't involved with that guy, because... facts won't really work against that narrative, because it sounds like Jess developed mental illnesses (ED) but then identified OP as the cause of them. She's not a regular person to Jess, she's The Rival. And you can't trust anything The Rival says! She's just doing this to ruin the protagonist, Jess!

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

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Vitruvian Manic
Dec 5, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Cowslips Warren posted:

AITA for not wanting to waste my winter break to go somewhere with my sister?

I mean going blind isn't that bad, right?

Speaking as someone who housesat this summer, and got roped into watching a teenager (admittedly he was 13 not quite 14) I am levels of LMAO at the idea of a 15 year old being left home alone for two weeks. My nephew forgot to close the exterior door to the house, the garage door multiple times, and, as his parents never have made him do chores at all, left dishes and bowls all over the house for the dogs to get into. He was surprised when I left him with chores to do, as in, not leaving his filthy clothes all over the place.

Ah, to be a teenager again.

Just to offer a counterpoint, I was an eastern block kid who moved to the US when I was 8 years old. Like many people in my situation, my parents "amicably" separated when I was 12 and by the time I was 15 my artistic father moved in with the people with whom he felt at home. In retrospect I'm pissed I didn't try to claim the home and my father just got it and sold it when I went to college. Whatever, I'm not bitter.

Anyway. Single 15 year old living alone in a small suburban home. Did I make stupid mistakes? Sure but folks on reddit are 25 making the same mistakes I did so point one for real experience and point zero for neurodevelopment.

Your mettle isn't tested until it has been tempered.

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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
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