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Re: the ludicrous idea that this should have been two expansions: People, myself included, were already concerned that Zenos and Fandaniel were gonna have to support a whole expansion, and that was when the assumption was that they were going to be more directly involved in the operation of the Final Days. So to not only have them stick around the whole time, but to not even dive into addressing the apocalypse they cause for another two years would have been awful. Part of the brilliance of Endwalker was how it undercut expectations and swerved in a different direction so early on. Feature not a bug. Just about everything was given exactly as much time as it needed.
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Yeah, I sincerely doubt that Mare Lamentorum is done. Even if it doesn't get revisited with the 6.X patches, there's a lot of potential there for them to explore, even if it's just side content.
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Dec 13, 2021 13:58
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I just think I agree Labyrinthos should've been cut in exchange for two Garlemald zones. It felt very underwhelming to FINALLY go to the place being teased as Big Villain Town since 1.0 and have so little happen there.
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Dec 13, 2021 13:59
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Hot take: Garlemald was a bit too long as it is.
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Dec 13, 2021 14:00
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Which is the easiest healer and tank class to play for someone who plays neither?
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Sakurazuka posted:Which is the easiest healer and tank class to play for someone who plays neither? White Mage and Warrior are probably the most straightforward of the healers and tanks. Nothing fancy, great place to start.
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As someone who had never gotten into tanking before I found Gunbreaker the easiest to get into, though I wouldn't call it the easiest to play mechanically. That said, tanking isn't particularly complex in FFXIV, and maybe if you're purely a DPS player so far, something with a more involved/faster-paced DPS rotation might be just the hook you need? As for healers, definitely White Mage. It's the "big heal numbers, big holy lasers" healer without any card mechanics to juggle and with plenty of "oh poo poo" buttons for when things go sideways.
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Dec 13, 2021 14:08
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I actually think Zone 5 was too long, and we should've had the rolequests be there, and the levelling content replaced by what the rolequests basically are.
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Dec 13, 2021 14:10
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I've barely been in Garlemond for any time at all and already I want to leave. Just a string of projection and cutting off your nose to spite your face alongside the seemingly inescapable cycle of revenge trope.
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Dec 13, 2021 14:26
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Sakurazuka posted:Which is the easiest healer and tank class to play for someone who plays neither? If you're only looking to do role quests, for healer, play summoner to get scholar for free.
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I agree with the folks who think the Garlemald stuff was the weakest part of the expansion - it was a huge drag and poorly paced, IMO. Also, I read the rumor prior to launch that they’d originally planned 2 post-ShB expansions, so that’s not new. I generally think the division is about where people have suggested, and I’m guessing that they were worried that following up ShB with a more “grounded” Garlemald-focused expansion would have killed the momentum.
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Arist posted:Hot take: Garlemald was a bit too long as it is. 
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Dec 13, 2021 14:32
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Endwalker would have been Stormblood 2.0 if they split it in two. The first third of the expansion is not strong enough to stand on its own. It is a pretty good part, but only as buildup and introduction to all else. The good poo poo is in the latter two parts.
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Dec 13, 2021 14:37
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Pray return to the start of the stealth/escort quest.
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The opening act of the Endwalker is definitely not strong enough to be an entire expansion on its own, and would either feel badly padded or would have needed a completely different setup pre-EW to work that way. (83 trial spoilers) and as hype as we've been to fight Zodiark since ARR, the events of Shadowbringers made it clear that killing Big Z is an incredibly terrible idea and could not have worked as an ending. Which is why Dan forced our hand. I'm really enjoying the quieter version of Flow the more I hear it. It's just so comfy.
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Thundarr posted:The opening act of the Endwalker is definitely not strong enough to be an entire expansion on its own, and would either feel badly padded or would have needed a completely different setup pre-EW to work that way. (83 trial spoilers) and as hype as we've been to fight Zodiark since ARR, the events of Shadowbringers made it clear that killing Big Z is an incredibly terrible idea and could not have worked as an ending. Which is why Dan forced our hand. Yeah. I agree that it would have needed different setup with more meat on the Garlean front. Maybe even having a one of the expansion settlements being Garlean settlement. Generally I prefer mundane over fantastical and focus on dismantling of the former Empire would have been fine end for the saga. 
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adhuin posted:Yeah. I agree that it would have needed different setup with more meat on the Garlean front. Maybe even having a one of the expansion settlements being Garlean settlement. The point of Endwalker is that it resolves the central plot that's been driving the game since 1.0 and this doesn't do that. I like Garlemald a lot too, and man I think that zone as well as the stretch of story in it is perfect, but it would absolutely not have carried an entire expansion by itself, at least not to the same acclaim that Shadowbringers achieved. Augus posted:it definitely should not have been two expansions. yep
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Correct. It should have been three.
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TGLT posted:Correct.  Give zone 5 its own expansion.
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I've been having an amazing time with New Summoner Going from Bahamut the Four Key Nuke to just setting off three nukes in my opener is astounding. Freely picking between casting styles really, finally, sells the idea the Arcanist class promises, of a fighter with a wide toolset carefully selected to fit the situation. Outside of healing-Doom and specialty healer checks I can mostly be self-sufficient, between carbuncle shields and massive Phoenix regens. Pretty neat, great for solo stuff too. Also I've already gotten my FC mate killed because Titan filled his entire screen 10/10
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catgirlgenius posted:between the early morning insta queues making me wake up early if I want to play comfortably, and my self imposed rule to pick up a book to while away the time every time there's a 4,000 person queue, I can credit FF14 with incentivizing me to become a functional adult more than any other game I have ever played For real, I haven't been this good about doing chores in ages. Thank you, queue! I was getting a little burnt out mainlining the story too hard. Getting back into dailies and fate grinding for giggles is doing me a world of good. hazardousmouse fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Dec 13, 2021 |
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Zomborgon posted:I've been having an amazing time with New Summoner I do find a few rough patches with it, however. I keep finding myself throwing out summons so often that I often find myself unable to shield a raidwide because carby isn't out, plus DWT has a long downtime after you burn aetherflow and deathflare/enkindle where the only thing you can do is keep your gcd rolling.
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Summoner having all its nukes at the start is hilarity for catbook stuff. Ok ifrit extreme and ok bye completed 0:06 seconds.
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New Summoner annoys me because I randomly see Ifrit in a new fight and briefly panic about plumes before realizing what's going on.
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Vitamean posted:several times now I've heard from people who encounter a 90 SMN for the first time in the final trial and wonder what mechanics the boss does that summons old primals I like to pretend that (last zone spoilers) the tribes are sending some extras along after us to help out
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I like to leave party spell effects on for dungeons though that has the unfortunate side effect of regularly blinding me whenever there's a Summoner in the group. It's like a miniature Red Mage LB3 multiple times per pull 
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Waiting on the all-summoner gimmick run of the first level 90 alliance raid. Overdwellers bow down (because nobody will be able to see the mechanics)
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Harrow posted:I like to leave party spell effects on for dungeons though that has the unfortunate side effect of regularly blinding me whenever there's a Summoner in the group. It's like a miniature Red Mage LB3 multiple times per pull They still appear and block your view of mechanics even if you have party effects on limited, which you need to be able to see stuff like healer bubbles. I'm not a fan.
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Vitamean posted:several times now I've heard from people who encounter a 90 SMN for the first time in the final trial and wonder what mechanics the boss does that summons old primals I'm one of these people and I just now realized it.
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Theris posted:They still appear and block your view of mechanics even if you have party effects on limited, which you need to be able to see stuff like healer bubbles. I'm not a fan. /petsize all small ...Or something like that.
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Actually all summons should be 1:1 with the primal. They should also add Susanoo and Lakshmi, except they are they big sized forms. Nobody deserves to see mechanics.
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I'm one of those perverts who has limited effects cause I actually like seeing the enemies.
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I turn on all effects at the beginning of an expansion, but by the time alliance raids come out I'll turn down everyone outside my party. /petsize all small can also help with hiding summoner primals
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Dec 13, 2021 16:48
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Finally got in on a second Chi kill.  
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Vitamean posted:several times now I've heard from people who encounter a 90 SMN for the first time in the final trial and wonder what mechanics the boss does that summons old primals this happened to me in trial 89 just a bit confusing when the boss is doing color related mechanics, and the summoner conveniently starts calling down that color summon at the same time
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Petsize large, egi glamour chicken nugget.
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Pollyanna posted:Dungeon: The Dead Ends. What an emotionally exhausting and hosed up, nearly cosmicist duty. That one’s going to stick with me for a long time. Plus, the third part is unreasonably pretty. Other than the one notable Solo Duty this is probably the only other part of the expansion I actively found myself sighing in resignation. Especially after spending hours in Ultima Thule, where we interact and explore these other cultures that died off, we get a whole dungeon of more of that -- only much more condensed -- when I'm more than ready to punt Meteion halfway back to Etheirys. And it wasn't until halfway through the dungeon that it just pulled me out of the game. It just felt like berating the point after we had such an interesting -- much more intimate -- journey through Ultima Thule. To me, anyway. That said, the expansion as a whole has been an amazing journey. I'd managed to keep myself spoiler free throughout, so the surprises along the way were well worth it. The events on Elpis and the subsequent adventures with Emet, Hydlo and Venat drove home just how out of control and out of hand everything in Etheirys had gotten, and how desperate everyone was to find a solution to a problem they were clearly never equipped to handle in the first place. Meeting them before they were the god-like entities we came to know them as was a real treat. Also, everything involving the Loporrits -- accept no substitutes -- was absolute gold and I shall treasure my memories with them forever.
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