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Sab669 posted:He did also vomit up a bat, and was like "Hey that mountain looks familiar." It wasn't just going full Juggernaut on a door. Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the bat thing lol. The mountain recognition is definitely foreshadowing, but up till that point I don't believe they'd talked about Dragonmount at all so it feels like one of those things that only book readers would recognize as such? Which I suppose means its effective! When I was a kid I remember the first time I reread eye of the world I was like "Oh man look at all these references hinting at Rand the whole time," so maybe TV only viewers will have the same experience I'm pretty sure it'll be next week. This week's episode is probably the ways and going through the history of LTT, which will set up for next week the realization that Rand is the one and inherits that legacy.
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The Waygate requires channeling because the main character Moiraine is played by famous actress and producer Rosamund Pike.
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Dec 13, 2021 17:15
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I think it's gotta be this week, complete flashback to Tam at the blood snow, winter night talk from fevered Tam, the works. Then you have next week to deal with what that means and the big blowout with Forsaken, Tarwin's Gap, etc
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Dec 13, 2021 17:16
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The Lord Bude posted:Obviously this is a joke but Jordan's style was to describe everything in minute detail And Tolkien didn't?????
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Dec 13, 2021 17:17
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I too wish they would have been given budget for like 12-16 hour-long episodes in a season, but… they weren’t? I’m pretty content with the choices they’ve made to preserve the soul of the show while not making a word for word adaptation.
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Dec 13, 2021 17:18
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Skyl3lazer posted:And Tolkien didn't????? Not to Jordan’s extent no.
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Gwaihir posted:I think it's gotta be this week, complete flashback to Tam at the blood snow, winter night talk from fevered Tam, the works. Then you have next week to deal with what that means and the big blowout with Forsaken, Tarwin's Gap, etc That's my assumption yeah.
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Dec 13, 2021 17:20
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I hope the Green Man doesn't get Bombadiled.
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Dec 13, 2021 17:24
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I’m sure he will.
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withak posted:I hope the Green Man doesn't get Bombadiled. I think they will rework the whole Eye of The World, feels weird even in the books given what happens in the later books. Would not mind if they make it much more fitting to the series as a whole.
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withak posted:I hope the Green Man doesn't get Bombadiled. Does the Green Man come back later? I know I've read all the books (except the final two) multiple times, but I literally don't remember anything about the green man other than there being the whole garden thing that's the setup for the forsaken fight and.. nothing else really? Probably a safe cut I'd think
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He can't come back because he dies at the end of the Eye of the World? Loial sings him into a tree?
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Elvis_Maximus posted:Does the Green Man come back later? only "later" in the sense that a much-earlier version of the green man appears in a flashback later in the books
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Gwaihir posted:I think it's gotta be this week, complete flashback to Tam at the blood snow, winter night talk from fevered Tam, the works. Then you have next week to deal with what that means and the big blowout with Forsaken, Tarwin's Gap, etc according to the publicly available brief descriptions of episodes that have been out since launch (barring episode 8), this week's episode is when we learn who the dragon is
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Elvis_Maximus posted:Does the Green Man come back later? He appears in one of the memories that Rand sees in Rhudiean, when the Aes Sedai task him with looking after the Eye and the box with the seal, Horn, and Dragon Banner
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Dec 13, 2021 17:33
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Yeah and a bunch of the other green man beings are around in the AoL flashbacks too right? Or am I making that up
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El Grillo posted:Yeah and a bunch of the other green man beings are around in the AoL flashbacks too right? Or am I making that up I think Someshta is the only one who's there at the seedsinging, but internal monologue suggests that there would be one at each field.
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El Grillo posted:Yeah and a bunch of the other green man beings are around in the AoL flashbacks too right? Or am I making that up AFAIK Someshta is the one seen in both Age of Legends flashbacks and apparently the head of a different one shows up in the River of Souls short story, which I still need to track down and read at some point.
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El Grillo posted:Yeah and a bunch of the other green man beings are around in the AoL flashbacks too right? Or am I making that up Yeah, you see them doing a seed ceremony with some Oiger and Aiel. I think the only time the Nym are mentioned after that is when we finally get to hear about some of Demodred's adventures in Shara during the River of Souls short story and learn one had been reduced to a still living head and guarding half of the super powerful Sa'angreal he spent his time chasing down before he destroyed it.
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El Grillo posted:Yeah and a bunch of the other green man beings are around in the AoL flashbacks too right? Or am I making that up Yep - in the scenes where they are singing to the crops
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Elvis_Maximus posted:Does the Green Man come back later? he shows in rand's rhuidean flashback yeah, he could be easily removed
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Andoman posted:Yep - in the scenes where they are singing to the crops They could've easily had a poignant message about climate change by incorporating the Nym So much for the Woke of Time 
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Dec 13, 2021 17:52
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You know, I was pretty sad no one tried to recreate the Nym toward the end of the series. Or Chora trees.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Most of the changes are because of the limitations of a television show and the fact that a television show has to show, not tell. Honestly if youre cutting there are scenes upon scenes so far in these 6 episodes that could have been elided or cut. I am honestly a little bewildered by the show's insistence on focusing on side character. Even Siuane's origin story, while a good idea, could have been cut or elided. Did that justify that much dialogue when the main characters, and esp, Rand, are basic sketches? Its in a weird netherworld between prestige TV and what is essentially, in the first book, is a LoTR ripoff. I think they overthought what should be an essentially an adventure story. Still like the show because I am even more bewildered there is a WOT TV show. I hope in the second season they iron out their process, perhaps listen to less notes, and get to the meat of this story, which is politicking and a modernist revision of the classic good v bad story.
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Shageletic posted:
Sanderson had an interview posted a few days ago where he addresses this. Basically everyone involved in the show understands the two sentences I quoted above. Rather than having the first season or two be one show and then change into another, they chose to change the basic adventure story (books 1-3) to more resemble the meat of the story (books 4-7).
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Shageletic posted:
Sanderson had an interview posted a few days ago where he addresses this. Basically everyone involved in the show understands the two sentences I quoted above. Rather than having the first season or two be one show and then change into another, they chose to change the basic adventure story (books 1-3) to more resemble the meat of the story (books 4-7).
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wtf why did it post twice...
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buffalo all day posted:wtf why did it post twice... cuz YOU'RE ALL DAY Interesting thought. Yeah def feels like learning pangs on a really shortened time frame. What gives me hope is that the politicking sections of the show are great (ep6 hello), and there is a good feel of the stakes and dangers involved. but no more side character bits taking up a 1/3 of the episode! I just realized that was some of the worst parts of Jordan's writing lol. You've only got so many episodes, and you've gotta get people to bond to these characters.
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I'm really curious to see the non book reader reaction to Rand being the DR (unless they change this to the 5 headed dragon thing which in that case I'll be glued to r/whitecloaks soaking up more schadenfreude than I can handle. I'll be like Colin Robinson x100) since we haven't spent much time at all developing him or hinting that he's the guy.
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Rafe mentioned in, I think the AMA, that they weren't changing who the dragon reborn is. The leaks confirm this, I know that is a show spoiler I guess, but it's also true to the book so I don't know if I should spoiler this stuff.
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buffalo all day posted:Sanderson had an interview posted a few days ago where he addresses this. Basically everyone involved in the show understands the two sentences I quoted above. Rather than having the first season or two be one show and then change into another, they chose to change the basic adventure story (books 1-3) to more resemble the meat of the story (books 4-7).
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El Grillo posted:Got a link? I can't find this interview. If it's the one I believe Buffalo is referencing, it's this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnbmku3lFmg
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The ending of episode six would be funny if it were like in the books because they’d just open the waygate back up and lan would march Matt back with them.
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Thanks. Anyone know what's up with him signing bits of paper, they look like scripts?? Seems somewhat bizarre to be doing while you're in a studio of some sort doing an interview/discussion thing.
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El Grillo posted:Thanks. I think it's the cover page of his next book, that was definitely my reaction too though
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Massive changes aren't happening, everything thus far has been contextual/mechanical to help show viewers alone grasp the setting. (prime characters aren't getting cut, key players might be combined but their plot threads aren't going away). I agree it would have benefitted from a longer allowance of screen time (I think I can agree with Rafe, that an extra episode or two would help a lot), but it is what it is. As well there is frankly a lot of ground that's repeated in EotW that they've condensed which misses our chances to know the characters more, but who really would be excited about extended shots of Mat and Rand on a road talking to yet another farmer? I just think EotW has to be gotten through, and this second season on should be a much better example of how it's going to be since this setup just has to be done and as many have noted it's not the most original place to start. IMO it's better to get through that with everyone established so the fun/interesting stuff can get the time it really needs to.
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El Grillo posted:Thanks. He's signing front pages for a book, I think Warbreaker -- you can tell by the way they're folded, that's how book pages are printed, in big sheets like that four pages to a sheet.
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Massive changes aren't happening, everything thus far has been contextual/mechanical to help show viewers alone grasp the setting. (prime characters aren't getting cut, key players might be combined but their plot threads aren't going away). buffalo all day posted:I think it's the cover page of his next book, that was definitely my reaction too though
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He's signing front pages for a book, I think Warbreaker -- you can tell by the way they're folded, that's how book pages are printed, in big sheets like that four pages to a sheet. To add to this, it's his own podcast so it's pretty much fair game for him to knock out some mundane task while he does it
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Spending a huge chunk of time diverging on side characters is literally the most Robert Jordan thing the show could possibly do
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