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VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

I agree that in mass communication you should not be writing off whole groups of people as 'unsalvagable' and should make the effort to understand them and message to them anyway because you may get some even though you will never get all.

But does that apply to every single one-on-one interaction with every human even in out of the way spaces like a dying comedy forum. If someone cites a bad statistic, and you question it, and they mock you for knowing ten dollar words like "per capita", do they really want a good faith exchange of perspectives

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:02

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 05:31

Thorn Wishes Talon: Oct 18, 2014; by Fluffdaddy

Kalli posted:

Here's something fun about an oft repeated talking point here:

https://twitter.com/guardianeco/status/1470339231629262848

This administration's track record on climate change is absolutely embarrassing and abysmal. :cripes:

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:11

How are u: May 19, 2005; by Azathoth

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

This administration's track record on climate change is absolutely embarrassing and abysmal.

If they can pass the climate part of BBBA then it'll be a huge, huge deal and a serious step forward. But good loving grief it feels like everything other than the BBBA is as bad as Trump.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:21

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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More than half of Americans now say they are concerned that they or someone in their family will get seriously ill from the Omicron variant.

Also, about half of people say they are done wearing masks, avoiding other people as much as possible, putting off unnecessary travel, or avoiding large groups and will just deal with what comes regardless of how bad it gets.

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1470436343142567938

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:33

Data Graham: Dec 28, 2009; 📈📊🍪😋

To be fair "general existential dread" is something we're already very familiar with dealing with, so ehh add it to the pile

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:47

BetterToRuleInHell: Jul 2, 2007; Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop

How are u posted:

If they can pass the climate part of BBBA then it'll be a huge, huge deal and a serious step forward. But good loving grief it feels like everything other than the BBBA is as bad as Trump.

I thought a sizable portion of the climate related funding was sacrificed to the altar of Manchin?

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:47

How are u: May 19, 2005; by Azathoth

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I thought a sizable portion of the climate related funding was sacrificed to the altar of Manchin?

Currently, and understand that it could change, but currently the climate provisions in the BBBA have been the parts that have survived the most intact throughout the negotiation process with Manchin and Sinema over the past few months. If passed as they exist currently they will be a significant, real big loving deal. They're not everything we wanted, and obviously they're not enough, but they would be a really really big start.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:50

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BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I thought a sizable portion of the climate related funding was sacrificed to the altar of Manchin?

Weirdly, the climate sections are the things that survived mostly intact. Manchin killed the Clean Energy Generation Rules, but the bill is currently about 1/3 climate provisions and the largest single part of the "social welfare" bill.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 19:54

Barrel Cactaur: Oct 6, 2021

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

This administration's track record on climate change is absolutely embarrassing and abysmal.

The guardian has trash headlines, the article has the details, it's a max 60 day delay.

There are huge reasons, economically, to do this earlier once it became an inevitably. Basically everyone wants to start doing it earlier so it's all done before the storm season rolls around. That let's them do the work slowly and carefully and reduce the chance of a large spill. It's not like they would drill less than the lease permitted anyway, they would just cut corners to make the market. The only reason to stall is spite or another appeal and the government didn't find a good cause for one.

Dropping oil prices takes away a RWM talking point too and these leases will do that through election season. They can always restrict the next round.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:13

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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The DOJ just announced charges against an employee of the National Labor Relations Board named Anett Rodrigues who has been taking bribes and selling confidential information about union organizing efforts to law firms representing at least two major companies that used that information to "achieve a competitive advantage" in their industry and potentially illegally interfere with unionization efforts.

Anett Rodrigues has allegedly been doing this since 2017.

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NLRB Employee Charged With Bribery And Honest Services Fraud

Damian Williams, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and David P. Berry, Inspector General of the National Labor Relations Board, announced today the unsealing of a Complaint charging ANETT RODRIGUES with honest services fraud and bribery. The charges stem from a scheme in which RODRIGUES, an employee of the National Labor Relations Board (�NLRB�), provided nonpublic NLRB documents to a co-conspirator in exchange for the regular payment of cash bribes. RODRIGUES will be presented before United States Magistrate Judge Paul E. Davison in White Plains federal court later today.

U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said: �As alleged, Anett Rodrigues, a trusted employee of a federal agency with access to sensitive nonpublic information, monetized her position to divulge some of that information in exchange for bribes. Rodrigues�s alleged selling of the information provided a competitive advantage to the alleged bribe payer�s company, but it also leaves Rodrigues facing multiple felony counts.�

As alleged in the Complaint unsealed in White Plains federal court:

The NLRB is a federal agency that enforces United States labor law relating to unfair labor practices and collective bargaining. Among other functions, the NLRB serves fact-finding and dispute-resolution functions, in which it investigates and resolves disputes between and among labor unions, company management, and company employees throughout the United States, and supervises the formation and elections of labor unions. Employees seeking to engage the NLRB to investigate and resolve a dispute may do so by filing a �charge sheet� outlining their allegations with their local NLRB regional office, and employees seeking the NLRB�s assistance in forming or joining a union can do so by filing a �petition� with their local NLRB regional office. These charge sheets and petitions are not immediately publicly available, though they are provided to the companies involved, typically within a matter of days, and may be available in redacted form via Freedom of Information Act requests, typically within a matter of weeks.

ANETT RODRIGUES used her employment with the NLRB to provide a competitive advantage to a co-conspirator (�CC-1�) who operated a Westchester County-based company that offered consulting services to clients � principally law firms � appearing before the NLRB. Between approximately 2017 and approximately 2021, RODRIGUES regularly provided cellphone photographs of NLRB charge sheets and petitions to CC-1, before they were otherwise available to CC-1 or to the public. CC-1 in turn sold the documents to clients for a per-document fee. In exchange this assistance, CC-1 regularly met with RODRIGUES to provide her with cash bribe payments.

* * *

RODRIGUES, 53, of Nutley, New Jersey, is charged with one count of conspiracy to commit honest services wire fraud and one count of honest services wire fraud, each of which carries a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison, and one count of bribery, which carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison. The statutory maximum penalties are prescribed by Congress and are provided here for informational purposes only, as any sentencing of the defendant would be determined by the judge.

Mr. Williams praised the outstanding investigative work of the NLRB Office of the Inspector General�s investigator and the Special Agents of the U.S. Attorney�s Office.

The case is being handled by the Office�s White Plains Division. Assistant United States Attorneys Jeffrey C. Coffman and Derek Wikstrom are in charge of the prosecution.

The charges contained in the Complaint are merely accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1454581/download
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/nlrb-employee-charged-bribery-and-honest-services-fraud

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:13

Thorn Wishes Talon: Oct 18, 2014; by Fluffdaddy

Barrel Cactaur posted:

The guardian has trash headlines

Counterpoint: The Guardian has excellent climate change coverage. It's probably the best mainstream outlet in that regard.

Barrel Cactaur posted:

the article has the details, it's a max 60 day delay.

There are huge reasons, economically, to do this earlier once it became an inevitably.

There is no economy on a dead planet.

Barrel Cactaur posted:

Basically everyone wants to start doing it earlier so it's all done before the storm season rolls around. That let's them do the work slowly and carefully and reduce the chance of a large spill. It's not like they would drill less than the lease permitted anyway, they would just cut corners to make the market. The only reason to stall is spite or another appeal and the government didn't find a good cause for one.

Dropping oil prices takes away a RWM talking point too and these leases will do that through election season. They can always restrict the next round.

C'mon. "Letting them start the work as soon as possible would let them work slowly and carefully, which would reduce the chance of an oil spill" is some incredible mental gymnastics and a very lame effort to paint this as some kind of pro-environment move.

If the administration truly cared about climate change they would have delayed the lease sale as much as legally possible. Instead they folded like the shoddy house of cards they are.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:29

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I wasn't defending him, it was and still is what I see as Dems losing the messaging war.

We're not even on opposing sides as to what we want from the party either.

Yeah ok it seemed like a defense to me since you jumped in mocking graphs right after I asked why he was talking about raw numbers and not per capita, if that wasn't directed at me and was just coincidental timing then fine.

Yeah we agree on stuff somewhat often I think which is why I don't really get why of all the legit criticisms of Biden out there you're talking about the homicide numbers in Philly, but whatever if you just think he sucks I agree, if you think he should be doing something about Philly specifically I'm curious what you think that should be (I've already said what I think it should be)

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:30

Willa Rogers: Mar 11, 2005

NYT has a piece today on how we olds comprise three out of every four covid deaths, which comes out to 1 out of every 100 olds having died by covid in the last two years.

quote:

As the coronavirus pandemic approaches the end of a second year, the United States stands on the cusp of surpassing 800,000 deaths from the virus, and no group has suffered more than older Americans. All along, older people have been known to be more vulnerable, but the scale of loss is only now coming into full view.

Seventy-five percent of people who have died of the virus in the United States � or about 600,000 of the nearly 800,000 who have perished so far � have been 65 or older. One in 100 older Americans has died from the virus. For people younger than 65, that ratio is closer to 1 in 1,400.

The heightened risk for older people has dominated life for many, partly as friends and family try to protect them. �You get kind of forgotten,�� said Pat Hayashi, 65, of San Francisco. �In the pandemic, the isolation and the loneliness got worse. We lost our freedom and we lost our services.�

Since vaccines first became available a year ago, older Americans have been vaccinated at a much higher rate than younger age groups and yet the brutal toll on them has persisted. The share of younger people among all virus deaths in the United States increased this year, but, in the last two months, the portion of older people has risen once again, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than 1,200 people in the United States are dying from Covid-19 each day, most of them 65 or older.

In both sharp and subtle ways, the pandemic has amplified an existing divide between older and younger Americans.

***

These most recent 100,000 deaths, too, have all occurred in less than 11 weeks, a sign that the pace of deaths is moving more quickly once again � faster than at any time other than last winter�s surge.

By now, Covid-19 has become the third leading cause of death among Americans 65 and older, after heart disease and cancer. It is responsible for about 13 percent of all deaths in that age group since the beginning of 2020, more than diabetes, accidents, Alzheimer�s disease or dementia.

Looks like youngs are getting much closer to the goal of a world without boomers, thanks to covid. :wink:

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:40

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Barrel Cactaur posted:

Dropping oil prices takes away a RWM talking point too

How many years does it take before people catch on that this is 100% counter to reality? No, it won't that's not how propaganda works. Right wing propaganda will say exactly the same thing it's saying now it will just use different words and different lies.

The emotional message will be exactly the same and the impact on society will be exactly the same. Biden will still be a raging pinko-commie triple mega-Hitler socialist tyrant looking to hold down REAL Americans according to Fox and the feelings will still percolate through the rest of society.

"But, but, the words! The words will be wrong!" Nobody cares and that's not how propaganda works.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:42

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Willa Rogers posted:

NYT has a piece today on how we olds comprise three out of every four covid deaths, which comes out to 1 out of every 100 olds having died by covid in the last two years.

Looks like youngs are getting much closer to the goal of a world without boomers, thanks to covid.

Nature...uh...finds a way.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:44

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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There's nothing here that is going to make a difference politically, but a lot of these are low-hanging fruit and it is kind of baffling that they were never implemented until now.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1470471516747968516

The major changes:

quote:

- Reducing paperwork requirements to apply for Social Security, Medicare, Social Security Disability, and Natural Disaster Aid.

- Allowing people to apply for Social Security, Medicare, Social Security Disability, and Natural Disaster Aid benefits in a new streamlined online process that takes roughly 1/3 the time.

- Allow people to update their address and contact information with the IRS online.

- A new online tool for Medicare recipients that looks at your medical spending and suggests personalized online tools for saving money on drugs and managing their health care and savings programs they may be eligible for.

- Taxpayers will be able to schedule callbacks with the IRS instead of waiting on hold or having to manage issues through letters and faxes.

- Americans will be able to renew their passports online instead of having to print forms and pay with a paper check or money order.

- New security machines and computers with advanced screening features are to streamline the process of going through security lines at airports.

- People with student debt will be able to manage their federal loans through a single portal, instead of several websites with different passwords.

- Borrowers who may be eligible for student loan forgiveness will receive automatic letters alerting them of their eligibility and inviting them to apply. Paperwork required for the application has been reduced by 40%.

- One single form for requesting aid for natural disasters will be distributed to all agencies involved in distributing aid instead of each agency requiring their own form.

- Military veterans are to be able to access their medical, housing, education, retirement, and other benefits with a single login.

- Poorer families can self-certify their incomes and enroll in eligible social safety net programs without the extra paperwork.

- Loan programs for small businesses and farmers are to become more responsive to new applications.

- Families receiving food aid should be able to buy groceries online.

- Permanent name changes or address changes with the Social Security Administration and U.S. Post Office can be done entirely online.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:45

PeterCat: Apr 8, 2020; Believe women.

Willa Rogers posted:

NYT has a piece today on how we olds comprise three out of every four covid deaths, which comes out to 1 out of every 100 olds having died by covid in the last two years.

Looks like youngs are getting much closer to the goal of a world without boomers, thanks to covid.

Well, that should help make Social Security more solvent.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:49

Willa Rogers: Mar 11, 2005

^^^ And without raising payroll taxes on richies, to boot!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

There's nothing here that is going to make a difference politically, but a lot of these are low-hanging fruit and it is kind of baffling that they were never implemented until now.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1470471516747968516

The major changes:

Jesus christ, fix the government websites, especially social security's, before anything else, especially if moving services online & especially given the hour-long waits for a phone chat.

This is a hoot, though:

quote:

- A new online tool for Medicare recipients that looks at your medical spending and suggests personalized online tools for saving money on drugs and managing their health care and savings programs they may be eligible for.

As if lifting a finger against pharma lobbyists & denying them their sweet sweet regulatory capture can be offloaded on medical "consumers" who have no say in what they're charged.

Also lol on the one-stop shop for student-loan penury. They're really trying to put lipstick on that reinstatement pig.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:51

Barrel Cactaur: Oct 6, 2021

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

Counterpoint: The Guardian has excellent climate change coverage. It's probably the best mainstream outlet in that regard.

There is no economy on a dead planet.

C'mon. "Letting them start the work as soon as possible would let them work slowly and carefully, which would reduce the chance of an oil spill" is some incredible mental gymnastics and a very lame effort to paint this as some kind of pro-environment move.

If the administration truly cared about climate change they would have delayed the lease sale as much as legally possible. Instead they folded like the shoddy house of cards they are.

Oh yeah but they transparently only see it as a base issue with broad appeal, the money Dems don't care about it. None of them have to personally live with it. As to folded like a shoddy house of cards they took it to the appealate, not much further to go then that. As I said, at this point a delay is posturing/spite and this specifically is running into other considerations.

I agree that we should treat oil companies with spite and contempt but their are valid reasons to believe at this point in time avoiding giving real ammo to the RWM death machine is worth the apocalypse kicking off like 5 minnutes earlier, especially because the other guys position is drill faster in more spots for number.

Long term real concern would be represented by decarbonizing energy production and land transport, with broad and accessable public transportation. Real long and short term solutions, not a gesture that in truth does basically nothing.

That said that requires an electoral strategy that wins and currently I'm seeing an electoral strategy that takes a stand on germandering by not doing it, but also fails to deliver reforms to normalize the field. Performative and self destructive gestures don't actually change anything.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 20:55

A big flaming stink: Apr 26, 2010

Barrel Cactaur posted:

Oh yeah but they transparently only see it as a base issue with broad appeal, the money Dems don't care about it. None of them have to personally live with it. As to folded like a shoddy house of cards they took it to the appealate, not much further to go then that. As I said, at this point a delay is posturing/spite and this specifically is running into other considerations.

I agree that we should treat oil companies with spite and contempt but their are valid reasons to believe at this point in time avoiding giving real ammo to the RWM death machine is worth the apocalypse kicking off like 5 minnutes earlier, especially because the other guys position is drill faster in more spots for number.

Long term real concern would be represented by decarbonizing energy production and land transport, with broad and accessable public transportation. Real long and short term solutions, not a gesture that in truth does basically nothing.

That said that requires an electoral strategy that wins and currently I'm seeing an electoral strategy that takes a stand on germandering by not doing it, but also fails to deliver reforms to normalize the field. Performative and self destructive gestures don't actually change anything.

there are zero valid reasons for this, the current course of the democrats is indistinguishable from the republicans: both lead to the death of billions

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:02

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Boomer is a state of mind. We will never have a world without Boomers, Willa.

Just as you will never be a Boomer.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:04

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Who cares if they sell leases they can jam up the process a thousand different other ways if they want to

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:08

FLIPADELPHIA: Apr 27, 2007; Heavy Shit; Grimey Drawer

bird food bathtub posted:

How many years does it take before people catch on that this is 100% counter to reality? No, it won't that's not how propaganda works. Right wing propaganda will say exactly the same thing it's saying now it will just use different words and different lies.

The emotional message will be exactly the same and the impact on society will be exactly the same. Biden will still be a raging pinko-commie triple mega-Hitler socialist tyrant looking to hold down REAL Americans according to Fox and the feelings will still percolate through the rest of society.

"But, but, the words! The words will be wrong!" Nobody cares and that's not how propaganda works.

The messaging will be the same, but the efficacy of the messaging may be different. Material conditions becoming more tenuous / worse combined with Democrats not being able to accomplish all that much (Biden will get 0 SCOTUS nominations in 4 years, Trump got 3; Biden won't sign any more real legislation for the rest of his term after they get stomped in the midterms, etc.) will give the unchanging RW propaganda more credence, as some Americans just blame Democrats far more readily for things, even if there's no real way to meaningfully assign blame.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:11

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Welcome to The Resistance, Chasten.

quote:

Buttigieg's husband mocks Biden admin restarting student loan payments next month: 'No thank you'

"Chasten, your student loan payments restart after January 31, 2022," the notice read, according to a screenshot tweeted by Politico�s Michael Stratford. "You�ll soon receive a bill from your student loan servicer."

"LOL no thank you Merry Christmas next," Chasten captioned the post.

"These are the guys who complained that they couldn�t afford rent in DC on Pete�s $220K salary (and all their money from writing books)," Republican strategist Matt Whitlock commented. "A good reminder that the left�s �cancel student loan debt� goal would overwhelmingly help financially comfortable people. The Washington elites start thinking they're victims just because they have to pay their bills."

Buttigieg was hit with criticism in July after complaining about the high rent prices in Washington, D.C. and claiming that he and the transportation secretary "couldn�t afford" an apartment with more than one bedroom.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:12

Sharkie: Feb 4, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Blitz of 404 Error posted:

Who cares if they sell leases they can jam up the process a thousand different other ways if they want to

There's a word for when political officials decide to just ignore court rulings. Tyranny. And the last thing you want is to give precedent to repub presidents.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:13

ex post facho: Oct 25, 2007

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1...ingawful.com%2F

*continuing to slam a brick against my genitals*

where are our voters going!!!

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:16

DEEP STATE PLOT: Aug 13, 2008; Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!

ex post facho posted:

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1...ingawful.com%2F

*continuing to slam a brick against my genitals*

where are our voters going!!!

the democrats will never ever hold either the house or senate after 2022

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:21

Willa Rogers: Mar 11, 2005

ex post facho posted:

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1...ingawful.com%2F

*continuing to slam a brick against my genitals*

where are our voters going!!!

Yeah, but you'll be able to see how much you owe via one handy website!*

*unless it's farmed out to some lovely consultancy like 90 percent of the other government websites, in which case you'll never be able to log in, much less see what you owe or what the government's garnishing.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:21

Bel Shazar: Sep 14, 2012

Sharkie posted:

There's a word for when political officials decide to just ignore court rulings. Tyranny. And the last thing you want is to give precedent to repub presidents.

Tyranny would require a legitimate court to be ignored, tho...

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:25

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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ex post facho posted:

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1...ingawful.com%2F

*continuing to slam a brick against my genitals*

where are our voters going!!!

Is it really "breaking" if they announced it on August 6th?

I still haven't really heard a convincing reason for why they would start it back up now. The reasons I've seen are:

- The money funds the federal government's portion of Medicaid expansion.
- "We have to do it sometime, so might as well do it earlier."

Neither of which are particularly amazing reasons. I've looked to find an actual serious argument in favor (even if I don't agree with it), but haven't been able to find any. I would legitimately like to read one.

I've been paying mine the entire forbearance (and apparently, roughly 60% of other people have too), so it isn't going to really change my life at all. But, I will miss that no interest accumulating.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:26

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Dang so T minus 11 months until the "young people care more about eating avocado toast than voting and it's DESTROYING DEMOCRACY" articles come out

Can't wait.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:26

camoseven: Dec 30, 2005; RODOLPHONE RINGIN'

Sharkie posted:

There's a word for when political officials decide to just ignore court rulings. Tyranny. And the last thing you want is to give precedent to repub presidents.

I would be extremely happy with a leftist tyrant, tyvm

and just lol at the idea that republicans give half a poo poo about "precedent"

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:27

freeasinbeer: Mar 26, 2015; by Fluffdaddy

I can�t wait for day 1 the next republican to stop student loans forever.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:28

Willa Rogers: Mar 11, 2005

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Is it really "breaking" if they announced it on August 6th?

I still haven't really heard a convincing reason for why they would start it back up now. The reasons I've seen are:

- The money funds the federal government's portion of Medicaid expansion.
- "We have to do it sometime, so might as well do it earlier."

Neither of which are particularly amazing reasons. I've looked to find an actual serious argument in favor (even if I don't agree with it), but haven't been able to find any. I would legitimately like to read one.

I've been paying mine the entire forbearance (and apparently, roughly 60% of other people have too), so it isn't going to really change my life at all. But, I will miss that no interest accumulating.

Weren't there WH sources on background a few weeks ago who said it was because the administration sees payments resuming as a sign of a healthy economy?

And I think the "breaking" part was Psaki acknowledging there's not gonna be another delay.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:32

ex post facho: Oct 25, 2007

I think it's also particularly amusing that there is, in fact, a legal memo outlining the ability (or non-ability??? who can say??? :thunk:

) for the president to unilaterally forgive these sorts of loans, and its just sitting there redacted out lol

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:33

Ravenfood: Nov 4, 2011

freeasinbeer posted:

I can’t wait for day 1 the next republican to stop student loans forever.

This is stupid as poo poo and won't happen.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:34

Lib and let die: Aug 26, 2004

ex post facho posted:

I think it's also particularly amusing that there is, in fact, a legal memo outlining the ability (or non-ability??? who can say??? ) for the president to unilaterally forgive these sorts of loans, and its just sitting there redacted out lol

More black boxes than an early SCP entry

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:35

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Lol at "what if Republicans watch us and realize they can stonewall and slow walk compliance with court rulings oh no!" Liberals don't even live in this reality.

So hey uhhh what's up with Trump's taxes, you got those immediately because Republicans respect precedent and the judiciary so much right.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:36

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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ex post facho posted:

I think it's also particularly amusing that there is, in fact, a legal memo outlining the ability (or non-ability??? who can say??? ) for the president to unilaterally forgive these sorts of loans, and its just sitting there redacted out lol

To be fair, that memo was an exploratory assessment that was basically step 2 of 4 of the process. So, it wasn't finished and still needed DOE and DOJ review.

But, the FOIA request was also dated back in April. So, it is entirely possible (and likely) that the DOE and DOJ have finished their assessment by now.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:39

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 05:31

Mellow Seas: Oct 9, 2012; Can't post for 10 years!

freeasinbeer posted:

I can�t wait for day 1 the next republican to stop student loans forever.

Just keep waiting for that outflanking-from-the-left guys :jerkbag:

Dems suck but if you want the fun of them losing, you're going to have to accept an even worse government. Don't fool yourself about this.

# ? Dec 13, 2021 21:41

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