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NHS pressure is due to many factors but the root is largely that if you go into hospital with Covid, don't expect to come out for a month (if at all). Some of the big Nightingales might have not been needed, but there are many smaller overflow hospitals lurking on industrial estates around the country. our local one has had a few patients that have been there since the first lockdown. The NHS has been tuned by successive Tory governments (including Tonys) to just about fly through the winter surges with politically acceptable levels of olds dying. But now we have a constant 20-25% chunk taken up by Covid patients - the 'trough' of the seasonal wave is barely under NHS capacity, so this Christmas the overflow is going to kill elderly patients from lack of care for just the normal illnesses. And more money is not going to fix it, that will be going to pay for overpriced medical equipment from the 'Internal Marketplace' that has all mysteriously gone up by over inflation amounts. And Brexit has caused a significant proportion of staff to leave and not come back. And the bursary cuts have made Nursing a less desirable thing to study. And predatory private firms poach trained doctors and nurses, firm in the knowledge that the hospitals will have to hire them back at higher rates as there is no alternative. Yes, a lockdown would do wonders for reducing the spread but it's pretty much political suicide now so expect everything else anyway. Its's a grim balancing act of political cost between measures that might help vs number of dead poor people, bearing in mind that compliant media will happily not report rising deaths in the 'other' columns atm. <Snipe edit> ~60% of Covid deaths are unvaccinated (<7% of the population) Edit2: Take 100 spherical Britons That's the real difference, and how '% in ICU' can be used as a deeply misleading figure as to the effectiveness. OzyMandrill fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Dec 16, 2021 |
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On Crisp chat. I went to my work's socially distanced Christmas party which was a very odd affair, 15 of us all separated shouting across a room at each other. The boss then sneakily let us back into the office for 15 minutes to raid our desks and I found I had 6 bags of (very out of date) Brannigans Roast Beef and Mustard still in my desk drawers! We opened a pack and were munching with some beer when my producer who was looking quizzicaly at their phone yelled "STOP EATING!!!" as it turns out someone managed to sell a pack of 5 for £100 on ebay last year. People were horrified and insisted I put them on ebay instead of eating them! But my crisps  I put one up for £10 min bid and we'll see if any weird rich tory crisp aficionado wants to buy them.
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I'm immediately invested in how much you can get for these stale crisps
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Why is there a second hand crisp market? Is this a bigger bubble than crypto?
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Nom Fungible Taytos
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Borrovan posted:lmao I literally just realised that my daughter is (just) entitled to Irish citizenship through her mother's side, which means if things go to poo poo over here before she's 18 I'm entitled to go live there You should hurry before we start cracking down on Brexit refugee gangs living in their Little Britain slums all over the EU. Disgusting immigrant fish'n'chip shops and pubs everywhere, dreadful!
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Dec 16, 2021 11:13
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If you start saving €30,000 a year until she's 18 you might be able to afford a deposit near Dublin as well.
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Just got boosted (with Pfeizer). Although the guy didn't swab my arm before the stab, so now I'm paranoid I'm going to die of gangrene or something.
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is there a reason why the media are focusing on the shropshire by election with Tories vs Lib Dems angle, considering that last time labour came second with twice the votes of the dems answers on a postcard i suppose
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Jel Shaker posted:is there a reason why the media are focusing on the shropshire by election with Tories vs Lib Dems angle, considering that last time labour came second with twice the votes of the dems Because the media want the tories or lib dems to win
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Payndz posted:Just got boosted (with Pfeizer). Although the guy didn't swab my arm before the stab, so now I'm paranoid I'm going to die of gangrene or something. Unless you were rolling around in excrement beforehand it's fine.
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It's because our media class are all thick as pigshit libs hth.
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Having looked into it this is actually pretty sweet, turns out my partner's automatically an Irish citizen without having to apply (news to her), just got to get a form sorted out for minivan & she gets all the good poo poo like free healthcare in the EU & access to Erasmus funding. Pretty bloody useful considering my parents live in France. I foresee a lot of waiting around at customs alone whilst my family go chill in my future.
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Darth Walrus posted:On 'where did British transphobia come from', this article is worth a read. A vague gesture towards possibly another contributing factor; Is there a real US equivalent of the strand of 20c UK popular culture based on straight cis men dressing up as women? Pantomime, Monty Python, Benny Hill, Mrs Brown’s Boys, Grayson Perry and so on are kind of a specific thing. Not drag, not an attempt at disguise; probably something to do with single-sex public schools. Just men wearing dresses, without adopting a different gender or sexual roles. If so, I’ll could see that causing some transatlantic confusion, and maybe providing a opening for the actual fundie propaganda stuff.
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I'm of Irish ancestry, but unfortunately further back than my grandparents. So now my only hope of automatic freedom from Plagueland is Scottish independence (my mum was born there). And I'm not remotely confident that even if the SNP won a crushing supermajority in Indyref 2, the Tories (or Labour, for that matter) would feel any urge to abide by the result.
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Z the IVth posted:Unfortunately there are simply not enough staff in the NHS. It takes time even you poach people from abroad and good luck getting the Tories to sign off on letting a battalion of Filipino nurses and Indian doctors in. That's also a de facto 'murder all the homeless' strategy, which I'm sure the government will find deeply appealing.
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Endjinneer posted:Some of these were just learning their trade on Bailey's campaign and they'll be around for a while. People on these hallowed forums have posted examples of information being released on left-wingers that suggested a systematic attempt to record their social media output that started before they were prominent. We need to respond in kind. Carve their names with malice. Politwoops exists, and in the 2019 campaign some of us were in fact using it to research Tory candidates for dodgy tweets from their past. For all the good it did us...
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Payndz posted:And I'm not remotely confident that even if the SNP won a crushing supermajority in Indyref 2, the Tories (or Labour, for that matter) would feel any urge to abide by the result. If it's a Catalan-style unilaterally declared referendum? Probably not, no. The unionists would just boycott it anyway. One agreed with the UK government? They'd not have much choice.
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Jel Shaker posted:is there a reason why the media are focusing on the shropshire by election with Tories vs Lib Dems angle, considering that last time labour came second with twice the votes of the dems Traditionally if a Tory flipped it would be to the Libs, rather than to Labour. That's fairly old school thinking these days.
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Jel Shaker posted:is there a reason why the media are focusing on the shropshire by election with Tories vs Lib Dems angle, considering that last time labour came second with twice the votes of the dems Gort posted:Because the media want the tories or lib dems to win While it's true that keep punching joe posted:our media class are all thick as pigshit libs
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Payndz posted:Just got boosted (with Pfeizer). Although the guy didn't swab my arm before the stab, so now I'm paranoid I'm going to die of gangrene or something. If they don't have time/resources to disinfect your skin then they probably don't have time/resources to change the needle between patients either. Pro tip: you should go early in the morning while the needle is still sharp and unbent.
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Convex posted:Also hope you're looking forward to cancer I was already working with ''potential'' cancer causing chemicals for 20 years but it's nice that i escaped last year noentheless.  Borrovan posted:lmao I literally just realised that my daughter is (just) entitled to Irish citizenship through her mother's side, which means if things go to poo poo over here before she's 18 I'm entitled to go live there edit: I see you got a better outcome on a later post.  Food related: I made paneer for the first time, without burning the milk, which is nice. Now it's getting squeezed to death under a heavy weight for three hours and then it's ready for consumption.
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Bug Squash posted:Traditionally if a Tory flipped it would be to the Libs, rather than to Labour. That's fairly old school thinking these days. I'm still learning about UK geographical politics, but I think it makes more ideological sense for a rural Tory stronghold to flip to Lib Dem, even if they placed third previously.
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I can't book a vaccine without also booking a followup, and they can't do the followup at the center 10 mins drive away but in birmingham over 90 mins drive away. gently caress that. you'd think they'd try not to discourage people
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feedmegin posted:If it's a Catalan-style unilaterally declared referendum? Probably not, no. The unionists would just boycott it anyway. One agreed with the UK government? They'd not have much choice. I agree with that. There's also little incentive at this point for the UK government to agree one, since there's an extent to which the SNP have essentially defanged themselves, since they reject both revolution and abstentionism. The worst a Prime Minister is ever going to have to put up with is some angry shouting in the House of Commons and the First Minister scheduling press conferences a few hours earlier than the UK equivalent and those just aren't credible threats. I think in the medium-term the only viable avenue the SNP can pursue is abstentionism. That might prove unpopular and lose them some votes, possibly, but it's the only way I see to actually show progress and commitment to the rank-and-file SNP membership if Westminster rejects a future call for another referendum. Calling a wildcat referendum will get boycotted for entirely obvious reasons to damage its legitimacy, so you'd need something which can act as a proxy for a referendum which the unionists can't boycott--if I were leading the SNP I think the only realistic option to achieve that would be a mass resignation* from parliament by SNP MPs, forcing 48 simultaneous by-elections and then running on a platform of abstentionism/independence. The unionist parties would be forced to fight these, and if the majority of Scotland's representation stops showing up to parliament that at least puts a dent in the legitimacy of the UK government. Would the government care? Probably not if their attitude to Brexit is anything to go by, but it would at least serve to head off what I perceive to be some mounting pressure on the leadership from SNP supporters, particularly SNP members, to deliver some form of progress on the matter. If they stay the course, the way I see it, that pressure will build until it explodes and either replaces the leadership with more fundamentalist leaders or significantly collapses the party as voters lose interest in a process they can't effect any control over. *blah blah appointment to office of the crown blah blah
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Niric posted:Labour appear to be briefing that they're not exactly trying very hard Just Another Lurker posted:Food related: I made paneer for the first time, without burning the milk, which is nice. Now it's getting squeezed to death under a heavy weight for three hours and then it's ready for consumption. What acid did you use? Iirc with lemon juice or vinegar it can work well as a replacement for chicken in curry.
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Darth Walrus posted:That's also a de facto 'murder all the homeless' strategy, which I'm sure the government will find deeply appealing. Another reason for having biometric ID cards rather than IDs tied to an address.
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Guavanaut posted:
Went with ordinary white vinegar, assuming a good outcome i'll play around with different flavours and additives... definitely going to do one with garlic for sure. Was thinking of lightly frying strips of this batch in seasoned flour. As for curries i've made plaited seitan in the past and used that for a chicken like texture.
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https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1471420502682083329 She's PPS to the Foreign Secretary
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My understanding (limited, admittedly) of the UK-Ireland treaty of (I think) 1957 is that UK and Irish citizens have the right to be treated as if they were citizens of the other country, if residing there*. This includes the right to reside. So if one wants to live in Ireland I don't think anything is stopping one. *For example, as an Irish citizen but UK resident I get to vote in UK elections.
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Anecdotally, I live literally a mile from the border of North Shropshire constituency so all my local social media feeds are centered around Market Drayton, which is in it. And people are getting righteously sick of the amount of campaigning from the Lib Dems in particular. Frankly I’ll be amazed if the Tories lose. But hey, at least I got to spend a fun afternoon a few weeks ago bullying multiple candidates (refuk, libdem and Labour- labour’s guy in particular looks like he was stamped out of a press at a Young Labour facility, as did all his entourage.)
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1471420502682083329 I’m considering a new and somewhat alarming proposition now which is that the current crop of Tories aren’t, as I had thought, fully aware of how the country works and exploiting it for the benefit of their class, they actually do not know how any of the machinery of government functions and are just guessing.
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Beefeater1980 posted:I’m considering a new and somewhat alarming proposition now which is that the current crop of Tories aren’t, as I had thought, fully aware of how the country works and exploiting it for the benefit of their class, they actually do not know how any of the machinery of government functions and are just guessing. Yeah that's been the case for years now. They're the fail sons and daughters of the original Thatcherites, who were vandals who also knew exactly what they were doing Turns out 40 years of a country being marinated in a political ideology that explicitly denigrates government and governing, even as a concept, doesn't lead to switched-on, responsible, competent or informed leaders!
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It's a bit like the 70s anti-tax and anti-regulation obsessives were saying "you can't stop people dumping benzene in the water because the regulations will actually have worse outcomes than the current problem" because they were aware that "you can't stop me dumping benzene in the water because that would cost me more money" made them sound like complete cunts, but they've now raised a generation where the style is the substance who honestly believe that if you regulate the water companies they'll leave and take all the water.
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Camrath posted:Anecdotally, I live literally a mile from the border of North Shropshire constituency so all my local social media feeds are centered around Market Drayton, which is in it. And people are getting righteously sick of the amount of campaigning from the Lib Dems in particular. Looks like you made the right decision in cancelling your Christmas trip to France*. https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1471433063485878273?t=mzmAAs9gsa7a4WyxV8QhCQ&s=19 I have been in a similar dilemma. I booked flights to and from Scotland to bring my daughter over after Christmas. It would be her first time back in Ireland since the Pandemic began and it would let her meet her new sister in person. But between Omicron and all the new restrictions being slowly brought in I think I'm going to have to take the decision to cancel the trip and try and reschedule it for next year. I don't want to have to do it, but the constant changing of rules means I don't want either of us to be stuck in quarantine or getting sick. My decision has also been focused because I have started a new job, but I don't get any time off until the new year when my full alotments of holidays will appear. (Currently only have 0.5 days off because I started this week.) So I understand the stress you went through. * = That was you earlier in the thread talking about going to France as part of a Christmas visit to your family? Or do I have you mixed up with another poster.
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Thank you to the people who provided serious answers to my grumpy rant
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Last call for fudge orders! Christmas looms ever closer, with the final posting day for 1st class being Monday. I’m also taking a little time off over the holiday as a reward for surviving a super-busy autumn. Therefore, I will be closing for orders on Sunday evening. Anyone who wants some delicious fudge for Christmas, make sure to get your orders in ASAP to avoid disappointment! Current Stock Milk Chocolate Irish Cream Whisky and Candied Ginger Unicorn Barf Black Forest Gateau Mince Pie Brandy Snap (super limited supply!) Veganilla Vegan Cookies Vegan flavours all have a short expiry period (end of the month) and thus have been discounted. All stock is live at https://www.fudjit.co.uk now, and as always you can use the goon code ‘Roastbeefisbest’ to get 5-for-4 on all orders! Have a fudging good Christmas!
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Welp one of my housemates tested positive. Going to be a fun Christmas.
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BoE rate gone up to 0.25%. Merry loving Christmas!
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