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Dawgstar posted:It's very impressive how Watterson resisted any merch but comic collections when he could have been as omnipresent as Garfield if he'd wanted. Whenever I think about C&H, I always think about how Watterson even resisted animation because he couldn't bear the idea of a studio establishing whether Hobbes was real or not, despite the idea that I think animation was probably the one medium at the time where he could have realized some of his greater ambitions for C&H; he bemoaned the fact that comic strips were constantly fighting for and losing space in newspapers, and he was forced to compensate for that in what he produced. I kinda wish Watterson wasn't a grump about digital media; I really feel like he would have fun with making a webcomic where he could really cut loose. Going digital seems to have revitalized Gary Larson and Cathy Guisewite, it might do wonders for him
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Dec 15, 2021 09:53
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Alaois posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvG3DQGdoDk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XnyS0C8g9c pat finnerty is so good he's almost got me to actually use instagram
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Dec 15, 2021 23:43
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Samovar posted:Player.fm It just got uploaded on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMPkziDtsE I also use Player.fm and don't know if it's bad or not
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Dec 16, 2021 04:39
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tinaun posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XnyS0C8g9c I have to admit that I unfortunately like butt rock in moderation so I kinda like that riff unironically
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Dec 16, 2021 05:00
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A touch of butt
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Dec 16, 2021 05:11
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Dias posted:I have to admit that I unfortunately like butt rock in moderation so I kinda like that riff unironically This is the essence of a good parody song: it's actually a good version of what it's parodying. It's a great riff
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Dec 16, 2021 05:23
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Recently rebranded Sophie From Mars posted another Resident Evil video, by the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewXZ9KQIQVw
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Dec 16, 2021 06:54
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Nuns with Guns posted:Recently rebranded Sophie From Mars posted another Resident Evil video, by the way: The RE videos are good but I take issue with her saying RE4 has no inventory management when inventory tetris is a vital component of the game. 
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Dec 16, 2021 07:18
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Shinji2015 posted:I kinda wish Watterson wasn't a grump about digital media; I really feel like he would have fun with making a webcomic where he could really cut loose. Going digital seems to have revitalized Gary Larson and Cathy Guisewite, it might do wonders for him At any rate he seems to have closed the book on cartooning decades ago with the end of Calvin and Hobbes; he only ever came back once for those Pearls Before Swine strips back in 2014 as a one-off goof for charity. Hopefully he's been happy with whatever he's been up to.
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Dec 16, 2021 07:31
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I deeply respect Bill Watterson's decision to end the comic on his own terms and resist all forms of merchandising but that doesn't make me crave a Hobbes plush any less. He coulda sold out a little.
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Dec 16, 2021 07:44
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RareAcumen posted:It just got uploaded on YouTube In fact, I've just noticed that some episodes I downloaded and listened to the other day I can now no longer even see when I check out their feed, even after I refresh it. What the heck is going on here? Other podcasts are still uploading...
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Dec 16, 2021 08:05
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Bloom County actually did a Calvin and Hobbes crossover sequel recently, apparently with Watterson's approval. It's pretty cute. The background here is that a character in a face-concealing mask and suit had been hanging around for a while during the Covid storyline, and everyone assumed it was Bill the Cat, another Bloom County character:                 
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Dec 16, 2021 08:31
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Marshal Radisic posted:At any rate he seems to have closed the book on cartooning decades ago with the end of Calvin and Hobbes; he only ever came back once for those Pearls Before Swine strips back in 2014 as a one-off goof for charity. Hopefully he's been happy with whatever he's been up to. I read an interview with the Pearls Before Swine guy about that. Cause ya know, it's the first time Bill Watterson did anything for decades and he described Watterson as an extremely private guy who was super hesitant to give any information out and also he had to walk Watterson how to use his email and other technology to collaborate. Which yeah Watterson would be of that age but it really shows how reclusive he is.
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Dec 16, 2021 14:00
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Eyepatch Wolf's what the internet did to ___ 'did you know fan content exists?' stuff is always strange to me because the guy started out as an anime youtuber and he seems completely unaware of doujin culture/jp fan culture. like buddy if you think garfield minus garfield is weird wait until you see all the touhou fancomics about suicidal depression. but im probably approaching it from the perspective of someone who, well, knows that stuff exists. still that stuff's such a huge backbone of anime that its a shame barely anyone in the west acknowledges it. also one of my friedns is in the sex survey garfield video but i cant be assed to go through the entire video to find them.
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Dec 16, 2021 15:08
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A lot of people associate the doujin scene with fanfiction pornography and not everyone wants to get into a discussion that can rapidly dovetail into discussing and drawing shipped characters hardcore loving. SEW knows about it he just doesn't talk about it much except as a joke, like in his simpsons video where he offhandedly mentions the Marge Simpson hentai he discovered doing research on the video.
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Dec 16, 2021 15:20
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Arc Hammer posted:A lot of people associate the doujin scene with fanfiction pornography and not everyone wants to get into a discussion that can rapidly dovetail into discussing and drawing shipped characters hardcore loving.
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Dec 16, 2021 15:23
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I feel like most of them never getting translated out of Japanese might be a heavy contributing reason.
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Dec 16, 2021 15:31
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Dias posted:The RE videos are good but I take issue with her saying RE4 has no inventory management when inventory tetris is a vital component of the game. It has the most and best inventory management, even!
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Dec 16, 2021 15:39
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Endorph posted:Eyepatch Wolf's what the internet did to ___ 'did you know fan content exists?' stuff is always strange to me because the guy started out as an anime youtuber and he seems completely unaware of doujin culture/jp fan culture. like buddy if you think garfield minus garfield is weird wait until you see all the touhou fancomics about suicidal depression. but im probably approaching it from the perspective of someone who, well, knows that stuff exists. still that stuff's such a huge backbone of anime that its a shame barely anyone in the west acknowledges it. Do doujins have to be like a specific amount of content or does it include basically anything? I know people make like, their own Touhou games and stuff and I think but I'm not sure that people make their own endings to some manga too sometimes. I'm mostly just asking if single piece of fan art counts as doujin too.
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Dec 16, 2021 16:34
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tinaun posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XnyS0C8g9c You can tell this isn't a real scumbag song because you can hear the bass guitar.
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Dec 16, 2021 17:38
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SimonChris posted:Bloom County actually did a Calvin and Hobbes crossover sequel recently, apparently with Watterson's approval. It's pretty cute. I'm not sure what surprises me more here, the fact Bloom County is still going or that it's apparently still pretty good
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Dec 16, 2021 17:55
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bird. posted:i like the narration on this tiny unknown channel. he sounds like a documentary maker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntgi84YdW28 This is exactly the sort of thing I bravely skim this thread for every several months. Thank you.
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Dec 16, 2021 18:52
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Blood Nightmaster posted:I'm not sure what surprises me more here, the fact Bloom County is still going or that it's apparently still pretty good It's definitely the former, Bloom County/Outland doesn't have a lot of misses I still remember when he returned with BC the first time and it made one of the other, shittier newspaper comics so mad that he was instantly back in the groove, the guy kept inserting a stuffed Opus into the series as the devil/monster under the bed/etc. I think it was Non Sequiter It's not even worth looking up, that dude sucks and I guarantee he's anti-mask now
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Dec 16, 2021 19:13
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Anyone know what happened to NakeyJakey? He kind of disappeared off the face of the internet at the beginning of the year and was curious to know anyone knew if he was doing okay or whatever. I always liked his videos and his supremely questionable friendship with TonJron notwithstanding, he seemed to have a good head on his shoulders (going by his twitter feed, which he also stopped posted shortly after the white supremacists were allowed into the Capitol building).
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Dec 16, 2021 20:48
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RareAcumen posted:Do doujins have to be like a specific amount of content or does it include basically anything? I know people make like, their own Touhou games and stuff and I think but I'm not sure that people make their own endings to some manga too sometimes. I'm mostly just asking if single piece of fan art counts as doujin too. Doujin refers to a person or group, doujinshi refers to the work they create Afaik since doujin basically means indie, you could call a picture doujinshi but it would be a little odd. Might need to be corrected on if it'd be weird though since my Japanese is kinda shaky. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 16, 2021 |
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Dec 16, 2021 21:23
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd2i666sCOU Bennett looks at Netflix's Cowboy Bebop adaptation and has some thoughts.
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Dec 16, 2021 22:36
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd2i666sCOU Good video, breaks down why the adaptation sucks so much without going into insane hyperbole for dramatic effect, praises the cast that are doing the best they can with the trash pile they had to work with, and even does a good job pointing out some small details like masking fuckups and deeply stiff direction elements that point to just how slapdash this was.
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Dec 16, 2021 22:49
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sexpig by night posted:Good video, breaks down why the adaptation sucks so much without going into insane hyperbole for dramatic effect, praises the cast that are doing the best they can with the trash pile they had to work with, and even does a good job pointing out some small details like masking fuckups and deeply stiff direction elements that point to just how slapdash this was. I'm looking forward to his part 2 video because I've got a suspicion I already know what he's going to talk about, and it's a growing problem with media in general rather than just lovely anime adaptations.
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Dec 17, 2021 00:00
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Jimbot posted:Anyone know what happened to NakeyJakey? He kind of disappeared off the face of the internet at the beginning of the year and was curious to know anyone knew if he was doing okay or whatever. I always liked his videos and his supremely questionable friendship with TonJron notwithstanding, he seemed to have a good head on his shoulders (going by his twitter feed, which he also stopped posted shortly after the white supremacists were allowed into the Capitol building). He pops up sometimes when Eddy does Halo nights, he’s still out there but it sounds like the pandemic really knocked the wind out of his sails. I think he’s working on new music still
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Dec 17, 2021 00:08
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Acerbatus posted:Doujin refers to a person or group, doujinshi refers to the work they create Doujinshi is an abbreviation of doujin zasshi, and a picture isn't really a zasshi. Some things that come to mind as terms for art would be doujinga, doujin illust or doujin e, and a quick google search shows results for all three, but not many.
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Dec 17, 2021 00:48
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eszett engma posted:doujinga 
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Dec 17, 2021 01:12
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Arc Hammer posted:I'm looking forward to his part 2 video because I've got a suspicion I already know what he's going to talk about, and it's a growing problem with media in general rather than just lovely anime adaptations. yea for my part I hope part 2 goes into how...over smoothed...for lack of a better term, it is and how it's emblematic of a lot of media issues in general these days. He kinda touched it with the quippy poo poo and talking about how Vicious was changed from a genuinely very menacing character to just a wife beating psycho who murders randos for fun and all. Just...Cowboy Bebop wasn't by any means some pinnacle of storytelling, it was good, it was probably most of our first 'mature' anime experience (hentai joke goes here), but it's not like it was a perfect thing. It still had a vision though, things happened and meant things, some things weren't answered, some were answered only in passing glances, sometimes the answer was just 'life is random and lovely sometimes', but the overall vision of the story they were telling was cohesive in both the one shot bounty of the week episodes and the overarching stories. The remake just...sandblasts it. Gren actually sadly was a huge example of that to me. I loved when I heard they were going to cast an actual nonbinary person for Gren and tweak things so that they would be more in line with what we understand now about how to portray nonbinary people more respectfully and all. As a nonbinary person I thought that ruled, excellent example of a remake updating the source material in small but solid ways. Then I saw quotes like this "Gren does not have a good history of becoming a nonbinary character. [It's] dark and didn't feel like the story that I thought was important to tell," from the writers and pretty much saw red flags. Gren IS a tragic character, not because they're nonbinary (though yes the experiments that functionally gave them dysmorphia were a part of it). Talking about giving them a bigger role and all just...was not what the character was. It was a tragic story that helped establish what a deeply cruel person Vicious is in the story and their death is an incredibly poignant moment where Spike is confronted with someone a lot like him but who's basically accepted their death and reality. I don't know how to say this well but it all flows into the same issue I have with 'bury your gays' being so overused and all. Like, the tragic queer character is an overused trope yea but when the whole story is a tragedy it's different. Gren's story is dark and tragic, so is Faye's and Jet's and Spike's. That's the theme, everyone touched by this world becomes a tragic character, Ed avoids it by being...Ed...and not really getting moored down in any world at all but everyone else suffers tragedy from their involvement in the world they're in. That's the story, that's the whole theme of the show, nobody makes it out both alive and untraumatized, in fact most wind up dead and traumatized both. The only way forward is accepting it and very actively looking at one of the first real examples of that theme we get in the show and going 'eeeh...not important' is just a massive missing of the point! Also I just genuinely hate what they did with Gren in general and hate that they genuinely seemed to think they were somehow doing good. It's completely emblematic of how hollywood and all treats 'diversity' in its products and you 100% can't convince me that and the Faye's costume thing weren't just them manufacturing outrage from the dregs of the internet for easy attention because I refuse to believe after watching it anyone in the writer's room gave a single poo poo about nonbinary people or women being well treated in their product.
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Dec 17, 2021 02:40
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The stuff with Gren in the Netflix show is so bizarre to me. I thought making Gren nonbinary was an interesting choice, like you said. But then the show pretty much strips away everything about Gren's story that defined him in the anime and you're left with someone who is Gren in name only. It rendered Gren down to "is gay/nonbinary and knows Vicious" and removes pretty much anything else. Like, Grens tragedy isn't that he's gay or that his hormones got thrown out of whack. His tragedy is that he trusted and had feelings for a monster who betrayed him and ruined his life. Vicious exploited his sexuality absolutely but Gren never struck me as someone agonizing over the internal conflict of being gay. Altering that into "Gren had a bad transition" feels reductive and cruel. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 03:11
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It's been a while but wasn't gren forced into adopting a gender and not, you know, nonbinary? That writing change strikes me as more questionable than "Thor is a woman" or "Spider-Man is black" or something that would be comparable. Regardless of the overall narrative purpose of the character it seems kind of wrong. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 03:58
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Acerbatus posted:It's been a while but wasn't gren forced into being transgender and not, you know, nonbinary? nah Gren tells Faye 'I'm both yet neither' which is more close to clumsy old style talking about genderfluid/nonbinary than trans, they never really identify as either male or female but of course they're also only in two episodes where most of the focus is trying to chase down Vicious and/or Julia so there wasn't much focus on gender identity but most people seem to take it as more on the fluid spectrum or the like than trans. The description of the medicine is obviously pretty vague for the same reasons but I think it's 'they caused my hormones to change' which is more in the 'my physical body changed and caused me to have a different outlook' rather than an actual transition of gender
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Dec 17, 2021 04:02
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Acerbatus posted:It's been a while but wasn't gren forced into adopting a gender and not, you know, nonbinary? yeah in the original Gren was given an experimental drug because of how emotionally destroyed he was upon finding out Vicious had betrayed him and one of the side effects was that it impacted his estrogen levels and impacted his physical body as a result. The read I had on him was that he'd eventually grown into identifying as something not-cis (since he tells Faye he 'is both and neither' when asked if he's a man or a woman) but it was still absolutely not consensual originally.
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Dec 17, 2021 04:07
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oh you meant the general forced element, yea it was not awesome but again that's why I was happy at first when they said they were casting a nonbinary actor and tweaking things to smooth that stuff out, because yea the force element is not great to have. The problem is you can smooth that out without completely turning Gren into a near offensive caricature.
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Dec 17, 2021 04:14
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sexpig by night posted:oh you meant the general forced element, yea it was not awesome but again that's why I was happy at first when they said they were casting a nonbinary actor and tweaking things to smooth that stuff out, because yea the force element is not great to have. The problem is you can smooth that out without completely turning Gren into a near offensive caricature. Live-action Gren is just a knockoff version of Pree from Killjoys, and nowhere near as fabulous a warlord.
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Dec 17, 2021 04:30
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A person I follow on Twitter commented that one of N!Bebop's gravest sins was basically taking out all the class and political commentary in the original. The one that really sticks out is Jet leaves the police because of one dirty cop, not that the whole department was crooked like in the cartoon. The show makes it clear these freelance bounty hunters have a better moral code than the cops (that is to say 'any'). The showrunner explicitly says he didn't think the anime was dystopian which... sure, whatever, rich person.
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Dec 17, 2021 04:31
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Dawgstar posted:A person I follow on Twitter commented that one of N!Bebop's gravest sins was basically taking out all the class and political commentary in the original. The one that really sticks out is Jet leaves the police because of one dirty cop, not that the whole department was crooked like in the cartoon. The show makes it clear these freelance bounty hunters have a better moral code than the cops (that is to say 'any'). The showrunner explicitly says he didn't think the anime was dystopian which... sure, whatever, rich person. yea as personally as Gren's poo poo bugs me boy did they mangle poor Jet. They cut out the genuinely solid story of the police as an institution being corrupt and forcing him out to the fringes AND they saddled the black guy with a truly terrible deadbeat dad/weird cop cucking side story???? Which really sucks because Shakir is easily my favorite actor in the cast but boy is he just given loving nothing (I also like Cho a lot though, he's not anime Spike but I'd accept a version of Spike that was him with an actually half-assed writing team).
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Dec 17, 2021 04:37
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