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man if the dialogue is going to be this bad then you might as well just take it from the books
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 05:34 |
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Oh poo poo just got to the chapter of Knife of Dreams where Mat reads Thom's letter from Moraine and poo poo just got real. Knife of Dreams is really loving good ya'll. Mat's story is fantastic.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 05:41 |
Hollismason posted:Oh poo poo just got to the chapter of Knife of Dreams where Mat reads Thom's letter from Moraine and poo poo just got real. It's great, and it shows that RJ had picked himself up from the midseries slump. Makes it even sadder that he died when he did
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 05:55 |
So, something that I'm thinking about is that the Amyrlin Seat would be Moraine's downfall. Is that referring to Moraine actually dying at The Eye of the World because she was lead there by Siuan? If so, that would be a big change. Otherwise though, I don't know what it would mean. Elaida or Egwene aren't the cause of Moraine's downfall in the books, and I don't know how Siuan would.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 05:55 |
goethe.cx posted:It's great, and it shows that RJ had picked himself up from the midseries slump. Makes it even sadder that he died when he did yeah i always get mildly annoyed when it gets lumped in with the slog, the pacing really picks up in it and several plot threads get tied up i remember spending years theorizing about the tower of genjei and really looking forward to moiraine's return
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 05:56 |
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MegaZeroX posted:So, something that I'm thinking about is that the Amyrlin Seat would be Moraine's downfall. Is that referring to Moraine actually dying at The Eye of the World because she was lead there by Siuan? If so, that would be a big change. Otherwise though, I don't know what it would mean. Elaida or Egwene aren't the cause of Moraine's downfall in the books, and I don't know how Siuan would. It's possible that it comes up later that Moiraine has to follow Rand into the wastes because Elaida has a warrant out for her. And that's how she ends up by the door she knocks Lanfear through
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 05:56 |
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Barreft posted:"Flesh so fine, so fine to tear, to gnash the skin; skin to strip, to plait, so nice to plait the strips, so nice, so red the drops that fall; blood so red, so red, so sweet; sweet screams, pretty screams, singing screams, scream your song, sing your screams..." They should have kept this, it's so much better.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:03 |
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I really enjoyed that episode, but I do wish they hadn't seemingly done away with Lan's one man war against the Blight. We need that for the Golden Crane scene to be as powerful as it is.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:03 |
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RandomReader posted:Oh, you haven't seen the episode yet? Makes sense, otherwise how could you miss Agelmar talking over Moiraine, openly dismissing his sisters concerns in public, taking the first opportunity to brag about the might of Fal Dara and how little an Aes Sedai would matter, and Moiraine is just so exapserated at his overbearing arrogance? Moiraine's later comment about him not going to Min because he already knows all the answers? That wasn't a brother and sister having a disagreement, that was an arrogant man disrespecting two women out of hand and being put in his place, a radical departure from the books because ??? They needed more male leaders to disrespect Aes Sedai/women, and to fill that role chose a character who would never dare? stop posting Incel. Take your cringe poo poo somewhere else. Like, I've had plenty of lovely takes on these forums. I think a lot of conversations calling the magic system "problematic" by some fans super eye rolly. But like, this show is threading a needle a bunch of writers/fans of geeky stuff have been bitching about for years. And what's funny on twitter anyways is most creators aren't watching it yet, even though it's giving them what they want, but in an actually good way. (or maybe film twitter prefers to bitch about something then actually see it fixed). We've got positivity masculinity, none male gaze sex scenes, plenty of diversity in cast and relationships, badass women who are actually justified in their badassary, (we just had a fight scene that is as compelling if not more so than basically every sword fight in all 8 seasons of game of thrones) and characters are acting smart. None of them are acting so out of either book character of show character for where they need to go, or what the text had them at. And, in terms of this "this show is too focused on women" the the most powerful and scariest character (a man) has literally just said, "okay, it's me". We haven't gotten much from him yet, but we get that the show gets him and everyone else, and so we can get giddy at what's to come.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:23 |
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SerSpook posted:yeah Same. Dragonmount was so much fun after book 11. I mean beforehand too. But book 10 gave us so little to work with.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:25 |
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Rand declaring himself the Dragon Reborn is way different than in the books where he's super reluctant to embrace the identity. I kind of wonder if he'll fully embrace being the Dragon Reborn so quickly because in the books he kind of didn't until The Dragon Reborn and we never see that thought process just him running.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:27 |
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MegaZeroX posted:So, something that I'm thinking about is that the Amyrlin Seat would be Moraine's downfall. Is that referring to Moraine actually dying at The Eye of the World because she was lead there by Siuan? If so, that would be a big change. Otherwise though, I don't know what it would mean. Elaida or Egwene aren't the cause of Moraine's downfall in the books, and I don't know how Siuan would. It could be as simple as Elaida declares that Moiraine is no longer an Aes Sedai. Boom. Downfall
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:27 |
Atlas Hugged posted:I really enjoyed that episode, but I do wish they hadn't seemingly done away with Lan's one man war against the Blight. We need that for the Golden Crane scene to be as powerful as it is. I'm sure that'll come up later. One consistent pattern with this show has been fans saying "omg why did they cut [insert important plot point]" only to have it show up in a later episode
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:41 |
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goethe.cx posted:I'm sure that'll come up later. One consistent pattern with this show has been fans saying "omg why did they cut [insert important plot point]" only to have it show up in a later episode I had the same thought, but the line from Lan about having nothing to die for before Moiraine was rubbing me wrong. It could be explained next episode that Moiraine gave him purpose in fighting the Shadow and so he can have his revenge and serve a greater purpose at the same time rather than just throwing his life away.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:46 |
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Gwaihir posted:Your a loving deranged weirdo and I don't know why you'd register on SA just to post this poo poo in one thread. Johnny Joestar posted:it's a bit funny to see random rageclick bait videos on youtube while looking up other wheel of time stuff because the sheer amount of copium that's embodied in poo poo like Why Wheel Of Time Fans Hate The Show and/or weird edited thumbnails with yelling dudes practically radiates off of them like some sort of previously undiscovered isotope and has a higher chance of striking me more infertile than the hormones i'm taking will not emptyquoting
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:51 |
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OK I actually loved show-blight. It was really effective as a terrifying and impossible place I'd never want to visit. Creepy and claustrophobic. Just great. Different but great.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:53 |
dwarf74 posted:OK I actually loved show-blight. It was really effective as a terrifying and impossible place I'd never want to visit. Creepy and claustrophobic. Just great. Different but great. Agreed. As much as I like the book's vision of a garish rotting jungle, I think the show's presentation does a better job conveying to viewers that this is a terrible corrupted place
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:56 |
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Goofballs posted:That always struck me as funny. Can you imagine being just some rear end in a top hat working behind a bar and suddenly a portal opens and internal organs fly everywhere. What do you even do with that experience? How do you explain it? Sammael, the jerk, actually does that in one of the earlier books (shadow rising or fires of heaven) Graendal and he get into an argument, so when he’s leaving he opens up a gateway through her servant, who just goes to pieces.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 06:56 |
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Hollismason posted:Rand declaring himself the Dragon Reborn is way different than in the books where he's super reluctant to embrace the identity. I kind of wonder if he'll fully embrace being the Dragon Reborn so quickly because in the books he kind of didn't until The Dragon Reborn and we never see that thought process just him running. I'm thinking that after they deal with the Eye of the World, they're going to play up Rand thinking he actually killed the Dark One. And then decide he's going to run away try to die quietly but woops have to chase fain.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:03 |
Goreld posted:Sammael, the jerk, actually does that in one of the earlier books (shadow rising or fires of heaven) tbh probably a kinder fate than what graendal did/would do
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:08 |
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LionArcher posted:stop posting Incel. Take your cringe poo poo somewhere else.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:19 |
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The show isn't the books. There's no "out of character" because what we see on screen is the character. You're big mad that the show isn't the books. Maybe stop hate watching and do something more fun with your time?
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:25 |
machin shin... it means 'imposter syndrome' in the old tongue
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:33 |
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El Grillo posted:I swear to god I've seen a set design like the ways before, either in a game or some film or TV - a dark hexagonal stone floor pattern, with a load of almost crystalline-lookinb hexagonal columns coming up out of it at different heights. Am I going crazy or do any of you know what I'm talking about? Lol. Nynaeve and Lan don't hook up this early in the books, right?
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:34 |
misguided rage posted:
Nope, book 1 has Lan shooting Nynaeve down because he thinks he's destined to die. I forget when they actually hook up but it's significantly later.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:35 |
misguided rage posted:I think there are a few maps in Diablo 3 that look like that, it's what came to mind for me at least. I'm sure there are other games with similar terrain, it's clearly inspired by the giant's causeway as was mentioned. My first thought on seeing the leaked promo stills was "hey! hex grid! They're in Gloomhaven!" DA3 has some areas that look like that.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:38 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:My first thought on seeing the leaked promo stills was "hey! hex grid! They're in Gloomhaven!" "I can't! I lost my only good movement card when we rested!"
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:46 |
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so okay, let's say the show does get all 8 seasons. How would you pace it going forward?
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:49 |
I do think the show would benefit from 10-episode seasons instead of 8-episode ones. There are already a lot of characters and story arcs and there will only be more. Maybe that's something Amazon will greenlight down the line since the show has been a success so far.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 07:55 |
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El Grillo posted:I swear to god I've seen a set design like the ways before, either in a game or some film or TV - a dark hexagonal stone floor pattern, with a load of almost crystalline-lookinb hexagonal columns coming up out of it at different heights. Am I going crazy or do any of you know what I'm talking about? Lol. Divinity 2 original sin
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 08:00 |
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So, uhh... was the game board in Min's inn just a random recognizable dice/board game or was it a subtle set up for the concept of Snakes and Foxes being a thing?
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 08:05 |
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El Grillo posted:I swear to god I've seen a set design like the ways before, either in a game or some film or TV - a dark hexagonal stone floor pattern, with a load of almost crystalline-lookinb hexagonal columns coming up out of it at different heights. Am I going crazy or do any of you know what I'm talking about? Lol. There’s been a dozen examples so far, I’ll add Lucifer. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/lucifer/images/4/40/113_Lucifer_in_Hell_11.png
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 10:00 |
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Rarity posted:Yeah Faile's the only one of our core characters to not be super special in some way and she still gets a bunch of poo poo done by going 'This will work because I'm goddam Faile'. If you look at her outside her relationship with Perrin she's awesome Faileing upwards
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 10:00 |
RC Cola posted:I don't remember seeing this. Do you have a timestamp? It's in the x-ray After veilgate it seems they need to handhold the viewer so the prouboys on reddit and the renfaire youtube larpers will stop howling about book mechanics
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 10:31 |
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I finished Episode 7. The thing with the series is that in between the rushed pace and the heightened drama, it's starting to get into melodrama territory. Ep7 spoilers It isn't enough that Morainie and Siuan searches for the Dragon Reborn in a conspiracy, they are also secret lovers, who are far apart because of duty. Taste the tragedy. Mat not going with them is good because he holds a secret DARKNESS WITHIN, the dagger fed on him the same him fed on the dagger. They are going to the Eye of the World, and the three that aren't the Dragon Reborn WILL PERISH, as they will get squished in between TWO FORCES OF NATURE. Let's put some dramatic incipient hidden romance triangle too in the group so there are more inner turmoil. Let's rush the other romance already (Nynaeve + Lan) so the stakes feel higher. The are seven other season to go ffs. Etc I understand part of it, they have to make the series interesting now, not in three seasons, and you have to 'show, not tell', but as I say, it's starting to skirt into a melodrama vibe.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 10:43 |
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BTW, what was the reason Rand's mom was fighting while pregnant? I don't remember at this point.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 10:56 |
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I'm weirdly okay with all the CW drama, because the gang are just such lovable doofuses. Especially Nynaeve releasing that her angry stance against Moirane directly caused all of her mates to start bickering and falling out with each other. That's great stuff.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 11:06 |
Hollismason posted:Rand declaring himself the Dragon Reborn is way different than in the books where he's super reluctant to embrace the identity. I kind of wonder if he'll fully embrace being the Dragon Reborn so quickly because in the books he kind of didn't until The Dragon Reborn and we never see that thought process just him running. It could save a whole books worth of running away since his motivation is to protect his friends
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 11:07 |
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Turin Turambar posted:BTW, what was the reason Rand's mom was fighting while pregnant? I don't remember at this point. Tigraine wasn't meant to be fighting because Maidens don't when they're pregnant, but Janduin loved her so much that he couldn't refuse her when she asked not to be sent back to the Wastes. Then it took them slightly longer than anticipated to kill Laman because he fled to Tar Valon.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 11:09 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 23:00 |
RC Cola posted:Yeah same. That was a good reveal that I didn't see coming. What I loved about that was Egwene assuming she did it. Oh, Egwene.
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# ? Dec 17, 2021 11:16 |