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Is anyone else wondering how Hilling and Bosse actually...ahem... worked?
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Dec 11, 2021 03:45
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Magic shrinking spell. Done! Anyways, this anime rocks. Characters are actual... characters, gasp!
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Dec 11, 2021 04:34
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Kung Food posted:Is anyone else wondering how Hilling and Bosse actually...ahem... worked? you saw what he could do to a log
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Dec 11, 2021 04:37
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Show remains wonderful. Names remain 100% on the nose. Dorshe being a door-shield for Queen Healing.
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Dec 11, 2021 05:19
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So my take on Bosse. Originally he genuinely wanted to be the strongest at any cost and he was just a dumb brute that didn't give AF. This involved a deal with mirror lady and a demon that he didn't fully understand at the time. Also mirror lady loves Bosse, which is a bit obvious after this episode. When his son is born and he sees how small and weak he is, there is instant buyer's remorse. In response he tries to make amends by creating a kingdom where his son can be a tiny weakling and still be okay. So Bosse dies and later finds himself reincarnated in his second son, to his bewilderment. This was part of the fine print of the deal he didn't understand when he made it. Also, part of the deal with mirror lady is offing any partners he has at the time of his resurrection because mirror lady doesn't want competition of the man/giant she loves. He didn't plan for this and he enters the "playing it by ear" part of his afterlife. Now he is stuck in the body of his own son and in a bargain where his current wife's assassination is part of a deal with a witch who loves him (and he doesn't love back). Remember he made his deal with a devil before he met his first wife. So he does his best to try to protect Hilling while placating the witch and not technically break the bargain. The witch thought the monsters would be enough to off Hilling, but he had faith in his single most trusted soldier to protect her. He thinks future attacks might be too much so he advices Dorshe to flee with his ward. At this point he is buying time to figure out a loophole in the bargain or have world's strongest Bojji swoop in and fix everything. He is a matured man trying his best to right a lovely deal from when he was a brain dead brawler. As for the new Bojji-fu In DND terms he is the consummate dexterity fighter. So his perfect weapon would be a DEX weapon. Something light weight but quick and accurate. My first thought was that a rapier or foil would be perfect for him, and would be thematically the opposite of his father's blunt force, brute strength clubs. I doubted my hypothesis a little when we see him split a boulder. Maybe a whip which is a dex weapon but more forceful? Or maybe a rapier can split a boulder because anime logic. Going to say his weapon of choice is a rapier or whip. Makes me think the final fight must be between the STR based Bosse and DEX based Bojji, with the end being Bosse happily accepting defeat from the hands of the son he wronged, and at the same time breaking the Faustian bargain. I want this to be true because I love the theme. Bojji was born into a society where only STR is valid, except he is amazing at DEX. Society says, "DEX bad STR only, and he suffers. So he goes off and develops his own power outside the stifling society he was born in. Even outside of fighting, Bojji has amazing charisma which draws people to him even when the greater society considers him a weakling. I just love the greater theme of "You have strengths, even when the culture you exist in doesn't value them."
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Dec 11, 2021 06:56
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Kung Food posted:As for the new Bojji-fu In DND terms he is the consummate dexterity fighter. So his perfect weapon would be a DEX weapon. Something light weight but quick and accurate. My first thought was that a rapier or foil would be perfect for him, and would be thematically the opposite of his father's blunt force, brute strength clubs. I doubted my hypothesis a little when we see him split a boulder. Maybe a whip which is a dex weapon but more forceful? Or maybe a rapier can split a boulder because anime logic. Going to say his weapon of choice is a rapier or whip. Makes me think the final fight must be between the STR based Bosse and DEX based Bojji, with the end being Bosse happily accepting defeat from the hands of the son he wronged, and at the same time breaking the Faustian bargain. Bojji's power is obviously capoeira. Have you seen this kid? He can leap twice his height faster than you can blink and has been outrunning adults since he was a snot-nosed toddler. The calluses are from learning how to spin on his hands just using his body's momentum. Calling it!
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Dec 11, 2021 14:22
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trucutru posted:Anyways, this anime rocks. Characters are actual... characters, gasp! RanKing apparently started from the baseline pitch of "what if everyone was an awesome character" and has been running with it for the entire season so far. Absolutely phenomenal cast so far. It is a triumph of writing that someone can try to pull a Lady Macbeth and still be generally portrayed as a good person, just rash, impulsive, and past her breaking point.
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Dec 11, 2021 19:25
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I Am Fowl posted:My favorite little bit of animation was Hilling cutting the cake. It was absolutely, perfectly executed animation, roughly one second long. Just by seeing the subtle motions of the knife, you can tell the exact texture of the cake. The reflection of the cake in the knife is a nice touch that most studios would miss.
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Dec 11, 2021 20:06
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Kung Food posted:As for the new Bojji-fu In DND terms he is the consummate dexterity fighter. So his perfect weapon would be a DEX weapon. Something light weight but quick and accurate. My first thought was that a rapier or foil would be perfect for him, and would be thematically the opposite of his father's blunt force, brute strength clubs. I doubted my hypothesis a little when we see him split a boulder. Maybe a whip which is a dex weapon but more forceful? Or maybe a rapier can split a boulder because anime logic. Going to say his weapon of choice is a rapier or whip. Makes me think the final fight must be between the STR based Bosse and DEX based Bojji, with the end being Bosse happily accepting defeat from the hands of the son he wronged, and at the same time breaking the Faustian bargain. AlternateNu posted:Bojji's power is obviously capoeira. Have you seen this kid? He can leap twice his height faster than you can blink and has been outrunning adults since he was a snot-nosed toddler. The calluses are from learning how to spin on his hands just using his body's momentum. Calling it! Guys, guys, let's think about it for a second. It's going to be a gun.
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Dec 12, 2021 11:51
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 Change names as appropriate.
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Dec 12, 2021 12:51
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Elfface posted:
I trust Bojji with a gun more than I trust Merry and Pippin with a gun.  Primarily because he doesn't have the finger strength to press the trigger! Hey yoooo! 
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Dec 12, 2021 15:10
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Kung Food posted:So my take on Bosse. I think Boji's new fighting skill is probably something relatively cliche but still really cool: Find the critical weak point and then poke at it firmly in such a way that it breaks. That or at resonant frequency
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Dec 12, 2021 23:24
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Xelkelvos posted:I think Boji's new fighting skill is probably something relatively cliche but still really cool: Find the critical weak point and then poke at it firmly in such a way that it breaks. That or at resonant frequency Can Bojji kill servants?
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Dec 12, 2021 23:36
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anime of the year.
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Dec 16, 2021 20:24
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Big fan of Murder Bojji
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Dec 16, 2021 20:26
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Holy gently caress the scene of the bar brawl was so loving funny/good. The animation on Despa just getting walloped was great. Despa is my favorite character. Every character is my favorite character.
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Dec 16, 2021 21:22
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I got really worried when Despa went to meet the guys from the fight. I thought the reveal was gonna be that he set up the fight to bolster Bojji's confidence falsely or something. But thankfully that wasn't the case.
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Dec 16, 2021 23:47
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Kind of annoyed that Boji is getting a superpower since it makes much more sense that he'd compensate for his weaknesses with kindness, cleverness and dependable allies but on the other hand it will be incredibly fun to watch the tiny deaf kid Fist of the North Star people to death so I'll allow it just this once. 
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Dec 17, 2021 05:07
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readingatwork posted:Kind of annoyed that Boji is getting a superpower since it makes much more sense that he'd compensate for his weaknesses with kindness, cleverness and dependable allies but on the other hand it will be incredibly fun to watch the tiny deaf kid Fist of the North Star people to death so I'll allow it just this once. yeah i feel that the show just lost the most compelling theme it had going. but i'll give it another couple episodes to see how it plays out
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Dec 17, 2021 06:50
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I dunno, this story was never like, say, Heroic Legend of Arslan. It showed early on Bojji had superhuman abilities (just not the ones people expected a king to have) so him expanding on those doesn't feel off to me.
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Dec 17, 2021 08:51
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if you aren't pumped watching bojji concuss bad guys with little baby punches and split boulders with rapiers then luckily The Power Of Friendship is well represented in other anime
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Dec 17, 2021 10:50
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I have faith that he’s going to ultimately earn his place in the world through his relationships anyway. Min/maxing DEX still has its downsides.. Hell, we’re already at a point where he wouldn’t be anywhere close to where he is without his friends and allies.
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Dec 17, 2021 13:15
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bitmap posted:if you aren't pumped watching bojji concuss bad guys with little baby punches and split boulders with rapiers then luckily The Power Of Friendship is well represented in other anime The sound design on this show is underrated. I'm still thinking about the tiny little "pfft" when his knockout punches landed.
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Dec 17, 2021 15:40
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bitmap posted:if you aren't pumped watching bojji concuss bad guys with little baby punches and split boulders with rapiers then luckily The Power Of Friendship is well represented in other anime I mean, I am. Obviously. However you loose something when you set up a very grounded, real world set of obstacles for a character (in this case physical disabilities) and then circumvent them through unrealistic means. The compelling question this series asked early on is "How will this particular kid succeed in a world where physical strength is regarded above all else?" and the answer the show came up with is "Well most of those limitations didn't truly exist in the first place, he just needed the right teacher" which isn't an answer you can relate to or apply outside of this show's reality because in the real world disabilities are worked around, not overcome. In taking this path the show gets the opportunity for some genuinely cool action scenes, but looses some of it's thematic punch in the process which isn't a trade I'd have made personally. Disclaimer: Giving a character a disability and then "overcoming" it by just taking it away is one of my pet peeves in fiction so this probably bugs me more than most people. It's a way of structuring a story that's intended to be inspiring but is in fact quite demoralizing because the hurdles people with limitations face are never honestly engaged with. It's like telling a kid with dyslexia "Don't worry my boy, eventually you'll find a magic wishing rock and become THE BEST at spelling! Then you'll be able to finally make that novel you've been wanting to write!" readingatwork fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 17:14
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the biology lecture is where it loses me tbh, it just feels out of place with the rest of the series vibe.
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Dec 17, 2021 17:32
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readingatwork posted:I mean, I am. Obviously. However you loose something when you set up a very grounded, real world set of obstacles for a character (in this case physical disabilities) and then circumvent them through unrealistic means. The compelling question this series asked early on is "How will this particular kid succeed in a world where physical strength is regarded above all else?" and the answer the show came up with is "Well most of those limitations didn't truly exist in the first place, he just needed the right teacher" which isn't an answer you can relate to or apply outside of this show's reality because in the real world disabilities are worked around, not overcome. In taking this path the show gets the opportunity for some genuinely cool action scenes, but looses some of it's thematic punch in the process which isn't a trade I'd have made personally. yeah I feel you. I've just been roped in bad emotionally and I want bojji to rip poo poo up.
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Dec 17, 2021 19:23
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bitmap posted:if you aren't pumped watching bojji concuss bad guys with little baby punches and split boulders with rapiers then luckily The Power Of Friendship is well represented in other anime There’s also no shortage of ridiculous kung fu movie style secret fighting techniques in other anime too
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Dec 17, 2021 20:22
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Bojji is still more or less unable to deal with anything undead, or with an alien biology, or artificial like the golem used to test kings. There's clear venues for him to rely on other people to overcome obstacles, but now he can at least humble some fools in a duel.
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Dec 17, 2021 20:44
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fairlight posted:There’s also no shortage of ridiculous kung fu movie style secret fighting techniques in other anime too If this was true I think I would have heard of those animes
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Dec 17, 2021 20:55
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bitmap posted:If this was true I think I would have heard of those animes I can’t tell if you’re joking or not but bojji’s technique is basically just fist of the north star
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Dec 17, 2021 21:26
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readingatwork posted:I mean, I am. Obviously. However you loose something when you set up a very grounded, real world set of obstacles for a character (in this case physical disabilities) and then circumvent them through unrealistic means. The compelling question this series asked early on is "How will this particular kid succeed in a world where physical strength is regarded above all else?" and the answer the show came up with is "Well most of those limitations didn't truly exist in the first place, he just needed the right teacher" which isn't an answer you can relate to or apply outside of this show's reality because in the real world disabilities are worked around, not overcome. In taking this path the show gets the opportunity for some genuinely cool action scenes, but looses some of it's thematic punch in the process which isn't a trade I'd have made personally. there's enough at play in the series that i am not gelling with this, at least not when it still feels early in the story. why is strength the big focus and failing when Bojji is still deaf and has a communication barrier to work around? the latter are established as issues before strength comes into the picture, and with most of his kingdom seeing him as merely an entertaining fool it's certainly an obstacle that would need to be overcome. even if we take king rankings seriously (which signs point to we shouldn't), they judge on aspects other than strength and note this by Bosse having disparate strength and overall rankings. and again to temper the impact of strength, you have characters like Bebin saying straight-out they still support Daida over Bojji, so there's a more complex calculus going on even with characters who know Bojji better. i'm also kind of ambivalent because the whole strength thing revolves around a magical curse to begin with. i wouldn't disagree that if you saw it as a grounded element to the narrative, the curse reveal cheapens that (maybe why the manga drops it asap compared to the anime?). but within that context he is overcoming it via a grounded method of "you can be nimble instead of powerful," finding a way to do something within his abilities and circumstances. it seems ripe for having complicating factors in the future, though i'm not sure what to make of that mirror ranking stuff. i just don't think it's comparable to finding a magic object that solves/removes the base problem, it is definitely a workaround.
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Dec 17, 2021 21:58
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fairlight posted:I can’t tell if you’re joking or not but bojji’s technique is basically just fist of the north star thanks ill check it out
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Dec 17, 2021 22:14
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dogsicle posted:the biology lecture is where it loses me tbh, it just feels out of place with the rest of the series vibe. For me, it's the hilt of the needle.  It magically changes from being flattened to being perfectly round whenever the sheath is removed.
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Dec 17, 2021 22:44
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Its not hard to suspend disbelief because every reveal flows naturally. Its really loving good The way the original Boji vs Daida fight has Hokuro mentioning that he isnt so sure about the outcome because of what he's seen, then we see his speed and the reveal of the snake attack. Because of how Bebin had been portrayed you are going to assume that he sent them to attack him or something.We see boji, who is deaf, somehow dodge snakes going after his blind spot, with the most recent reveals that scene gets recontextualized the snakes were training him and were attacking him on his blind spots on purpose. The big ol snake even remarks on his flashback how he still depends too much on his eyes. It also explains why Bebin had no reaction when all the other handlers were shocked, he already knew his snakes were helping him out I love this show
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Dec 19, 2021 02:43
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Bojji deciding that he's going to keep faith in the Queen and go back home was such a great moment. That's his real super power.
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Dec 19, 2021 03:20
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I enjoy the legit non-zero chance that Bojji's Secret Skill could well still wind up being NantoSeiKen even after the weapon reveal given how they continue to outline the parameters of combat in the world and characters. A cheerful yelp and just passing clean on through with a touch/press with this tiny little fingers~ Be surprised if fan art along such themes doesn't eventually come up someplace. This show is such a treat out of the entire mass of shows that was 2021.
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Dec 20, 2021 01:31
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I just watched this show and it rules. Really thought it was going to be a super cute story about a deaf little guy making friends and overcoming ableism. Then in episode four their little journey to Grandma and Grandpa's house involved a pit stop at the gates of hell and I realized just how wild they were willing to go. Love that the heartwarming stuff is still there. Queen Healing is the best.
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Dec 21, 2021 07:10
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I have no knowledge about the manga - does anyone know how long this will be? Like how many episodes we're getting, and is that going to be a complete story, or is there material for multiple seasons?
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Dec 22, 2021 15:18
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it's listed with 23 episodes, i have no idea what that will mean for manga content and story progress since this adaptation has been pretty deft about arranging things in a way that has a flow and is satisfying rather than being 1:1. there was a recent announcement about the manga entering "part 2" so i've been assuming we will get as close to a complete anime version of part 1 as they can manage.
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Dec 22, 2021 15:30
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love them straight up telling us that Domas is a bad teacher. He couldn't teach anyone without his powerset/level. Should've gotten Bebin and Bojji might've become strong earlier also praying to the gods that Hiling doesn't die in the next episode despite it seeming like an obvious trap
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