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DuckHuntDog posted:If they do not get ahead of it like this, then parents just refuse to send them to school at all. We had a social media thing like this a few weeks ago and only a third of the students showed up at all, and a lot of them had parents refuse to let them go. They could get out ahead of it by telling parents not to believe dumb bullshit
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PostNouveau posted:They could get out ahead of it by telling parents not to believe dumb bullshit Well people are dumb, and the cultist have been looking for any excuse to drop their kids from enrollment. E: curse you iPhone auto-correct. 
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I hear that they were sneaking Momos in inside their backpacks along with their jenkem. https://twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1471926132257824770 Harris county being Biden +13. This is why smug yankee fucks think everyone in Texas is a gawp mouthed maga hick zoux fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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PostNouveau posted:They could get out ahead of it by telling parents not to believe dumb bullshit That didn't work back when we were kids, why would it work now?
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i say swears online posted:harris county dems are way further to the left than any northeastern local democratic party, too Until they get clean swept out in '22, then they'll freak out and purge everyone under the age of 40 from the party. It may have been wise for Lina to run for governor this cycle because she's going to be an unelected if she tries to run in '24
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DuckHuntDog posted:If they do not get ahead of it like this, then parents just refuse to send them to school at all. We had a social media thing like this a few weeks ago and only a third of the students showed up at all, and a lot of them had parents refuse to let them go. The flip side is if they ignore it, tell the parents it isn't real and then someone does go on a shooting spree - it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. The school in Michigan is being sued already, this is a pure CYA move by school officials. It's easier to just do this and be able to say you had no specific known threats, but took precautions anyway.
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zoux posted:Harris county being Biden +13. This is why smug yankee fucks think everyone in Texas is a gawp mouthed maga hick In all directions - I have been trying to avoid saying "red state, blue state" because when we're talking about low voter turnout, less than 10% margins deciding elections, and cities like Austin going 70%+ for Biden...how is it meaningful to talk about the whole state of 30 million people as a monolith? The country's politics/culture is rural vs. urban vs. suburban. Cities across the country have more in common with each other than with the rural areas of their state - we're really just talking about which party managed to get the suburbs on their side enough to maintain political power in a state.
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DuckHuntDog posted:If they do not get ahead of it like this, then parents just refuse to send them to school at all. We had a social media thing like this a few weeks ago and only a third of the students showed up at all, and a lot of them had parents refuse to let them go. High school teacher here. I wasn't worried about a shooting per se as much as that some jackass kid would think it funny or clever to call in a fake bomb threat today and we'd have to scramble to make up the last semester final. We had a spate of vandalism and theft the last time a TikTok thing like this trended, so we know that at least some part of our student body is easily influenced by social media fads.
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Shooting Blanks posted:The flip side is if they ignore it, tell the parents it isn't real and then someone does go on a shooting spree - it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. The school in Michigan is being sued already, this is a pure CYA move by school officials. It's easier to just do this and be able to say you had no specific known threats, but took precautions anyway. Pretty much, yeah. If it reaches wide enough circulation, they have to put out a statement that they think it is not credible, but they are working with police and taking extra precautions, etc. Dealing with individual students based on whether or not they might become a threat in the future is an even bigger can of worms that is going to leave schools open to suits both ways. Lemniscate Blue posted:High school teacher here. I wasn't worried about a shooting per se as much as that some jackass kid would think it funny or clever to call in a fake bomb threat today and we'd have to scramble to make up the last semester final. Yep, same at my school with the TikTok trends and annoyance at how students are influenced by them. Losing a day a few weeks ago was hell on making up work, particularly because it only impacted some of my class periods. DuckHuntDog fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1471948743289327625 Every GOP ratfucker seems to have this idea so it’s probably gonna happen in our lifetime.
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I'll never know this of course, but I suspect that one of the biggest contributors to the asymmetry we're seeing in terms of politics is that all the civil religion stuff politicians talk about all the time - the moral correctness of a free and fair democratic process, putting country before party, a shared set of values we can all agree on - is that Dems sincerely believe that poo poo and Republicans just don't. I don't really know what the solution is. Either Dems start playing just as dirty as the GOP, which will cause an escalation in unethical and illegal political and parliamentary procedures each cycle (that the GOP will most assuredly eventually win) leading to a permanent one-party conservative nation or they cleave to their principles and get BTFO'd through electoral fraud and unfair process leading to a permanent one-party conservative nation. It doesn't look good!
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I don't think the democrats being too good and faithful to our values is the problem In fact, I think the real problem is somewhat the opposite - democrats are infested with cynics who believe in little outside the sanctity and superiority of the political class, while the GOP is a mix of grifters and true believers who at least appear to deliver on what they are elected to do, as awful as that may be
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zoux posted:I'll never know this of course, but I suspect that one of the biggest contributors to the asymmetry we're seeing in terms of politics is that all the civil religion stuff politicians talk about all the time - the moral correctness of a free and fair democratic process, putting country before party, a shared set of values we can all agree on - is that Dems sincerely believe that poo poo and Republicans just don't. There is definitely a class of Democrat pundit who has spent the last 20+ year earnestly debating policy with the GOP, not knowing that they just never gave a poo poo about it to begin with. Now that the cat is out of the bag they have to keep up the appearance otherwise they're forced to admit that they, very intelligent adults in the room, were duped by some of the dumbest people on the planet for years. Just look at all the SCOTUS watchers who are aghast that a thoroughly conservative court is just going to make poo poo up whole cloth, as though they haven't been saying they'd do this for years.
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I think Republicans in power, everywhere, are bullies and cowards. They know they are morally and ethically wrong, but feel they are doing what’s best for themselves and their people, whoever they think that is. But they are loving cowards. They will avoid direct confrontation at all cost. We’re just gonna have to see what happens, how they choose to handle their diminishing power.
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zoux posted:I'll never know this of course, but I suspect that one of the biggest contributors to the asymmetry we're seeing in terms of politics is that all the civil religion stuff politicians talk about all the time - the moral correctness of a free and fair democratic process, putting country before party, a shared set of values we can all agree on - is that Dems sincerely believe that poo poo and Republicans just don't. this has been the story of the dems for decades, at least since gingrich took over the house. the dems all got bullied into accepting the worldview the gop espoused while never figuring out that it was just a tool to manipulate people with and not a rigid ideology. all the ones that didnt play ball got drummed out and replaced with people that spend all day posting images of pelosi wearing sunglasses. the media might be even more culpable in this, the fact that AEI and CATO are brought on every sunday show panel while nnot a single actual left think tank is ever invited really shows how far to the right the "center" is as far as the media is concerned. but yeah there isnt much of a solution out there within the us system under capitalism. we just get to watch as the land is destroyed and people suffer while a few people gain more wealth than they could ever spend. radical meme posted:I think Republicans in power, everywhere, are bullies and cowards. They know they are morally and ethically wrong, but feel they are doing whats best for themselves and their people, whoever they think that is. But they are loving cowards. They will avoid direct confrontation at all cost. this really is the most annoying part of the whole thing and trump was such a perfect example. although i doubt trump ever though hard enough to understand that he is ethically wrong. either way, the dems could steamroll the gop if they wanted to. their policies all line up with the overwhelming majority of the country, but they gave up on the working class in the 70s and have effectively given up on minorities as well. im not sure they can recover from this in the public's eye and biden is really sealing that. like how the gently caress do you get clowned on by the heritage foundation for your tax policy benefiting rich people as a dem?
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Sir Tonk posted:this has been the story of the dems for decades, at least since gingrich took over the house. the dems all got bullied into accepting the worldview the gop espoused while never figuring out that it was just a tool to manipulate people with and not a rigid ideology. all the ones that didnt play ball got drummed out and replaced with people that spend all day posting images of pelosi wearing sunglasses. I'd say you're starting the timeline too far forward. This whole thing got started with Reagan winning, then the Dem leadership figuring out their response in the fashion of the Third Way/Triangularists taking over the party with Clinton's ascendency. Gingrich was jusg the counter response to Clinton and things have been doubling down Republicans ever since. e: And then of course you could if you wanted look back to the entire post war period ad the Bircher Society started their decades long push to hostile takeover the Republican party and all that, but their major victory where they took over the narrative was with Reagan. Dameius fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Dec 18, 2021 |
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Dameius posted:I'd say you're starting the timeline too far forward. This whole thing got started with Reagan winning, then the Dem leadership figuring out their response in the fashion of the Third Way/Triangularists taking over the party with Clinton's ascendency. Gingrich was jusg the counter response to Clinton and things have been doubling down Republicans ever since. It started before then. When LBJ supported civil rights the racist wing of the Dem wing left for Nixon/Reagan and the Humphrey/McGoverns/Muskies were what was left. It just so happens that the racist/southern Dems could run tough elections.
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Automatic Slim posted:It started before then. When LBJ supported civil rights the racist wing of the Dem wing left for Nixon/Reagan and the Humphrey/McGoverns/Muskies were what was left. It just so happens that the racist/southern Dems could run tough elections. Birchers were starting their poo poo during Eisenhower. And really you could always end up taking this all the way back to the constitutional convention via a series of cause/effect reactions: Bircher -> Anti-Commie Commie -> Gilded Era Capitalism Gilded Era -> Reconstruction Reconstruction -> Civil War etc...
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i say swears online posted:this is all Polk's fault for annexing texas Not for annexing Texas, but for not forcing more of the territory over to the federal government to absolve the debt. Shoulda made Texas the Delaware of the plains.
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the great state if texas, stretching from Washington-on-the-Brazos all the way to Brenham
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i say swears online posted:this is all Polk's fault for annexing texas If Jesus hadn't died for our sins, none of this would have happened.
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two football finals today: liberty hill lost to a dallas ISD school and westlake plays a denton ISD school in a few hours. LBJ, an Austin ISD school, also went deep into the playoffs. doesn't feel often that dallas and austin ISDs get to sniff a championship. it's been all about the suburbs for decades
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Sir Tonk posted:It's actually Johnson's fault for not having the leadership of the confederacy hung Unironically every single southern politician, land owner and officer should have been left swinging in the breeze
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Unironically every single southern politician, land owner and officer should have been left swinging in the breeze If a Proud Christian Mom says it, it must be true. Should have given every freed slave 10 shares of the aristocratic wealth while we were at it, too.
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Dameius posted:If a Proud Christian Mom says it, it must be true. Should have given every freed slave 10 shares of the aristocratic wealth while we were at it, too. 
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I was being serious. e: The planter class should of had their entire generational holdings in both land a wealth dissolved and redistributed to their former slaves. All policing organizations that acted in any capacity towards the management of slaves likewise should have been dissolved and rebuilt from their foundations. Any person who held political office in the CSA should have been tried and executed for treason. Dameius fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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My father did some work on land which had been confiscated and given to the freed families that had been enslaved there. It was interesting because the deed was extremely emphatic that the previous owners, any of their descendants, or relations had zero claim to the land and could never have such a claim, ever. The person at the county deed office had never seen anything quite like it and mused that the slavers must have been someone who did something especially awful against the nation or threatened to do something like that to get the land back which lead to the reconstruction official essentially banning them and their bloodline from ever owning that land. From his non-lawyer reading of it if the current descendants of the freemen ever decided to sell it (which they were very much not interested in doing) the buyers would have to do a lot of genealogical research to make sure that they weren't even tangentially related to the slavers or they risked the sale being voided.
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