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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Anyone got any experience of degrees or masters in Quantum Computing (or with a big component of it in other degrees)?

I'm starting to feel 'left behind panic' on the topic (especially with this month's Physics World being devoted to it!) - a weird sense of panic in my gut that I remember getting back in the 90s when internet first became available to regular people not just universities etc..*

I'm looking at a couple of possible MSc - thought I'd ask here given the backgrounds hinted at by some poster!


*yeah, I know. 0th world problems when many people are panicking about where to get the next meal from. :guillotine:

Cute animals tax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8xJtH6UcQY

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Dec 18, 2021

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
if you're 'getting left behind' on quantum computers i dread to think what that makes the rest of us that don't really know how our normal computers work other than keeping the drivers up to date

nurmie
Dec 8, 2019
all i'm gonna say on the topic of pigs: please remember that they are essentialy a state-sanctioned gang - i mean i think we all agree on that, but it doesnt seem like some folks really internalise all the ramifications here. like any gang, they go especially hard - no holds barred, every dirty pig trick in the book - on those who dare challenge their monopoly on violence. and its entirely unsurprising that the guy got more years than, say, your average rapist. it's a travesty, but it's an entirely unsurprising travesty

this probably doesn't need stating, but should you find yourself in a situation where you might challenge pigs like that, please don't make it easier for them to make an example of you. which includes things like "stating your intent to burn a bunch of pigs alive" and "having a digital paper trail of violent pig-related fantasies"

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
the senior management of the health trust i worked for were rancid people with poo poo for brains and they thought that microsoft excel was the alpha and omega of computing

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
it was honestly scary to see so many things being done, badly, on spreadsheets

nurmie
Dec 8, 2019

crispix posted:

it was honestly scary to see so many things being done, badly, on spreadsheets

bad spreadsheets are the digital backbone of the NHS lol

that and 20 year old shambling corpses that pretend to be patient management systems

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




I wonder what the maximum capacity of test processing is in this country. Feel like we're heading for a Chernobyl-type situation where the true new figures can't be measured using the system we have.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Regarde Aduck posted:

if you're 'getting left behind' on quantum computers i dread to think what that makes the rest of us that don't really know how our normal computers work other than keeping the drivers up to date

I'm thinking of my next career. Seems to me the two careers that will be available 20 years from now are either something to do with chiropractice or related topics to deal with all the neck and shoulder problems that will manifest after decades of people using mobile phones and laptops so much or something to do with quantum computers and data security.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



crispix posted:

the senior management of the health trust i worked for were rancid people with poo poo for brains and they thought that microsoft excel was the alpha and omega of computing

It's pretty good for most things tbh

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anyone got any experience of degrees or masters in Quantum Computing (or with a big component of it in other degrees)?

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Some people have been hyping it up as the Next Big Thing that will Break All Cryptography for years now but it doesn't actually seem to be getting anywhere. It's like getting a degree in fusion reactors.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Necrothatcher posted:

I wonder what the maximum capacity of test processing is in this country. Feel like we're heading for a Chernobyl-type situation where the true new figures can't be measured using the system we have.

It's on the government website - https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing#card-lab-based_testing_and_capacity_by_test_type - they bring labs on stream (either by redeploying existing NHS forensics labs or private ones, or buying it in from the biotech and pharma sector) as required to keep a ceiling. Ultimate capacity is around 1.1M/day, excluding automated PCR checkers at hospitals which are obviously reserved for that hospital's patients.

(the latter part is all half-remembered from the rollout of expanded testing at the beginning of the pandemic so could be wrong either because it changed or because I just remembered it wrong)

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Got up early today to get a Tesco delivery, working christmas week and new years so stocking up now.
Got annoyed when the 2 hour window delivery expired, check email.
I ordered it for tomorrow.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

nurmie posted:


this probably doesn't need stating, but should you find yourself in a situation where you might challenge pigs like that, please don't make it easier for them to make an example of you. which includes things like "stating your intent to burn a bunch of pigs alive" and "having a digital paper trail of violent pig-related fantasies"

Don’t have previous as long as my arm including such delights as burglary, knife crime and assault will help as well. The guys a class a prick if you look at his record. Easy pickings for the police to make an example of and ruined the credibility of the KTB movement.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I'm thinking of my next career. Seems to me the two careers that will be available 20 years from now are either something to do with chiropractice or related topics to deal with all the neck and shoulder problems that will manifest after decades of people using mobile phones and laptops so much or something to do with quantum computers and data security.

ah, I just finished an ecology degree via Open Uni, so now i just have to hope the biosphere lasts 20 years :(

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Major incident declared in London re: omicron

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

crispix posted:

the senior management of the health trust i worked for were rancid people with poo poo for brains and they thought that microsoft excel was the alpha and omega of computing
Microsoft Excel is the alpha and omega of Microsoft products at least

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Red Oktober posted:

It’s around £45k/year here in the UK.

There’s a bit of a drive in the prisions reform space to try and get this number out more - we think that a lot of people would at least reconsider their LOCK ‘EM UP stances if they realised how much it cost.

Not a good idea. They'll just start charging prisoners to be locked up like it was a hotel, which is how America handles it.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Barry Foster posted:

Major incident declared in London re: omicron

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mayor-of-london-sadiq-khan-declares-major-incident-over-huge-surge-of-omicron-cases-12499021

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anyone got any experience of degrees or masters in Quantum Computing (or with a big component of it in other degrees)?

I'm starting to feel 'left behind panic' on the topic (especially with this month's Physics World being devoted to it!) - a weird sense of panic in my gut that I remember getting back in the 90s when internet first became available to regular people not just universities etc..*

If they ever get QC working as a practical system, it's going to be a specialist field for specific applications. Considering we don't have enough people to fill all the conventional computing jobs, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Read a few online papers on quantum algorithms and you'll probably be imminently more qualified than anyone offering whatever bullshit degrees in the subject that predatory institutions have probably already set up.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

learnincurve posted:

My aunt found a gollywog my grandma had in my toy box and quietly replaced it with a beautiful hand made patchwork doll (with the same shape as she picked it apart for the pattern), and she turned it into a girl with bright orange pigtails instead.

I'm not totally sure but I have a feeling I had a golliwog as a young child. I definitely remember the marmalade.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anyone got any experience of degrees or masters in Quantum Computing (or with a big component of it in other degrees)?
I know very little about the subject but I used to know a professor of quantum computing and my impression was that he was very much on the theoretical, algorithmic side of things - the computer science and information theory rather than the physics. I don't know if that's what you want not, but I'd take a careful look at the course contents of various degrees and see which best fit your interests.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Just found a Udemy course for £15.99 (so long as I pay up in the next 5 hours or so!) which might give me a starting point.

If nothing else, I'd like to be in a position of 'knowledgeable buyer' of such systems so even if I don't know the ins and outs, enough to know when me or whatever company I might be working for is being bullshit at.

trypsin
Jul 8, 2007

nurmie posted:

bad spreadsheets are the digital backbone of the NHS lol

that and 20 year old shambling corpses that pretend to be patient management systems

One of the best aspects of the NHS is the ability to conduct medical research nationwide within a centralised system. But the combination of collaborative data input and it being in Excel does lead to clinicians designing impressively creative encoding schema, especially for missing data. Always entertaining to work with data that has 10+ ways of indicating missing data in simultaneous use, often more than one per variable (eg blank, 'NA', '#N/A', 'no data', '-', 'x', '.', '?', -1, 0, 1, 99, or any number outside some range).

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1472155160327692292

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's just so weird to me that some people are just so loving averse to wearing a mask, it's not difficult for gently caress's sake you barely notice it's there most of the time.

trypsin posted:

One of the best aspects of the NHS is the ability to conduct medical research nationwide within a centralised system. But the combination of collaborative data input and it being in Excel does lead to clinicians designing impressively creative encoding schema, especially for missing data. Always entertaining to work with data that has 10+ ways of indicating missing data in simultaneous use, often more than one per variable (eg blank, 'NA', '#N/A', 'no data', '-', 'x', '.', '?', -1, 0, 1, 99, or any number outside some range).

Sounds like there is a paper in "trends in schema for indicating missing data across nationwide collaborative inputs" :v:

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I have to admit I kind of like it during the winter - when it's really cold it's nice having something covering my nose.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah same, and that only makes me less likely to take it off because if you do that it goes cold and manky.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

"Go on, stick your hand in me bag"

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I have to admit I kind of like it during the winter - when it's really cold it's nice having something covering my nose.

Doubly so when you have a cough, because the chilly air aggravates your throat.

My household has all been knocked down by a horrible cold for the last week that repeated testing assures us is not covid. Meanwhile our next-door neighbours with their 3 kids tested positive 2 days ago and appear to be remaining largely fit and well.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Bojo is of course an rear end but honestly I'm really dubious about the way this pandemic seems to have encouraged the worst curtain twitching volunteer cop impulses of the British public.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
so there's a pre-Christmas Thing I was hoping to go to tomorrow, but I can't find an LFT anywhere in this godforsaken city

I had my booster 3 weeks ago, tested negative on a PCR last Saturday and have had no symptoms at all this week, am I a terrible person if I don't do a test but go anyway?

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



happyhippy posted:

"Go on, stick your hand in me bag"

Bene Gesserit training has had some budget cuts, I see.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Julio Cruz posted:

so there's a pre-Christmas Thing I was hoping to go to tomorrow, but I can't find an LFT anywhere in this godforsaken city

I had my booster 3 weeks ago, tested negative on a PCR last Saturday and have had no symptoms at all this week, am I a terrible person if I don't do a test but go anyway?

Covids over, go for it

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

so there's a pre-Christmas Thing I was hoping to go to tomorrow, but I can't find an LFT anywhere in this godforsaken city

I had my booster 3 weeks ago, tested negative on a PCR last Saturday and have had no symptoms at all this week, am I a terrible person if I don't do a test but go anyway?

I’d probably go for it but maybe I’m also terrible

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Julio Cruz posted:

so there's a pre-Christmas Thing I was hoping to go to tomorrow, but I can't find an LFT anywhere in this godforsaken city

I had my booster 3 weeks ago, tested negative on a PCR last Saturday and have had no symptoms at all this week, am I a terrible person if I don't do a test but go anyway?

Ask yourself why you are asking

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

crispix posted:

it was honestly scary to see so many things being done, badly, on spreadsheets

On the railways, we meet one of our legal requirements using an excel spreadsheet. It has about forty columns, all containing text. Sometimes several hundred characters. There are four columns of single digit numerical input and the only maths in the entire sheet is adding them together. There can be upwards of 20 people who need to add data to each sheet. It is kept on a server which doesn't allow shared editing so you can get locked out of it for days. Sometimes people forget to save it back in before they go on holiday. The formatting is not locked so data rows and sometimes whole columns get deleted by accident. Because forty columns of text won't fit on much else, the usual way to check the sheet is to send it to a plotter that has A1 roll feed. In order to reduce errors, there is a cadre of specialists who get assigned to every project and their sole job is to be custodian of the sheet. Staff are also required to attend every two years a formal briefing on how to use the spreadsheet. This is the state of the art. This is how £6Bn projects are delivered.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Had a row with someone in the NHS where I was working one time (a capital budgeting person- equal 'status' - the two of us shared an office and essentially detested each other) - the bosses barricaded themselves in their office hiding under their desks while we rowed, two forceful women metaphorically knocking 7 bells of hell out of each other.

Anyway, the next day my boss said to me "she's works so hard don't be so harsh on her - she spends hours working late every evening'.

I said "Do You Know What She Does? She has a big spreadsheet in excel and she adds everything up on a CALCULATOR and types in the answer. So if a figure changes she has to hand calculate Every Single Line. It takes her 4 hours to do what would have taken her just 15 minutes to set up a formula for and just a couple of minutes to update figures If She Used It PROPERLY.

Gah! Scream!


Also, yeah the railway - when the working time directives came in and had to make sure shift workers didn't do more than whatever it was (48 hours a week?) averaged over 8 weeks. (This was about 15 years ago now, it's possible things have improved since I quit!)

There were so many variations of names put in by HR: Mr P Jobholder, Pete Jobholder, P. Jobholder, Mr. P. Jobholder, Mr. Peter Jobholder, Pete. Jobholder (Mr), etc.
The computer thought that was 6 different people not just the 1 and the calculations were obviously crap.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

ThomasPaine posted:

Bojo is of course an rear end but honestly I'm really dubious about the way this pandemic seems to have encouraged the worst curtain twitching volunteer cop impulses of the British public.

There's a massive difference between I Saw Goody Proctor With The Devil-ing your neighbour having a family member over for lunch and the leader of the government repeatedly flouting the laws he has national press conferences to tell us of, to the point where they're completely incomparable.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

There's a massive difference between I Saw Goody Proctor With The Devil-ing your neighbour having a family member over for lunch and the leader of the government repeatedly flouting the laws he has national press conferences to tell us of, to the point where they're completely incomparable.

Oh sure, I think it was mostly the way the photo was shot that got me, rather than the subject

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Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Barry Foster posted:

Ask yourself why you are asking

yeah I should just go, thanks for confirming for me

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