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The_Doctor posted:It’s giving off a tracking signal, that ain’t no regular watch. Could be a watch given to Clint by Laura with an inscription, hence him wanting to find it so people don't use it to find his family.
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I know we’re all very excited about Echo and Patriot and Ms Marvel but I’ll be kind of bummed if the young new “face” of the Avengers is a beautiful blonde white woman bolstered by their new de facto ultimate weapon, the most powerful being in the universe… who is also a beautiful blonde white woman I really loved the Avengers, but Jesus Christ on a cracker by 2021 standards the first phase MCU is relentlessly, overwhelmingly white. Also, I just… I dunno, Black Widows aren’t team players, and Yelena is still a contract killer. Natasha got fully out of the life so we didn’t have to be conflicted about her, she was transparently seeking redemption for hire crimes. It’s harder to become sympathetic to Yelena, when she’s literally still just accepting wet work for pay and by the sound of it doesn’t really ever bother to think about who she’s murdering.
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Dec 18, 2021 12:10
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Lord_Magmar posted:Could be a watch given to Clint by Laura with an inscription, hence him wanting to find it so people don't use it to find his family. Nooo, that's too simple! It's obviously Stan Lee's watch, the most powerful artifact in existence. Everyone posted:Killing Clint would get Yelena killed by the MCU in general based on the fact that very, very few of the MCU villains have actually survived the movies/shows in which they've appeared. Really the only superhero who makes much of an effort to avoid murdering his enemies is Spider-Man. So, unless Yelena will somehow be positioned as a Spider-Man villain, if she kills Clint, she'll die in turn based on how the MCU has worked thus far. 
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Dec 18, 2021 12:10
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Gonna guess the watch is: 1) a do-nothing nostalgic memento and only has a tracker because an avenger wore it 2) some Edith type “access to a super-weapon” thing 3) Steve Rodgers’, but with the soul of the Red Skull trapped inside laughing every so often, and Zemo will get it in the end and they’ll have hilarious capers where he has to have conversations with his watch and try not to look crazy
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Dec 18, 2021 12:51
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It’s just the watch from Pulp Fiction
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Dec 18, 2021 12:51
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Go to the movies tonight and you'll see that you're not too far off. Agents of Shield is not the same continuity as the Netflix shows
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Dec 18, 2021 13:14
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Brass posted:Nooo, that's too simple! It's obviously Stan Lee's watch, the most powerful artifact in existence. Alternatively; why would Clint leave something with sentimental value that he's worried could be used to track his family just lying around Avenger's compound, and never bother to check up on it following the compounds destruction?
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Dec 18, 2021 14:29
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Does the show end with Hawkeye bringing home the dog to his family because if not im gonna steal christmas
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Bust Rodd posted:Does the show end with Hawkeye bringing home the dog to his family because if not im gonna steal christmas His mission done pizza dog goes to find another hero to mentor. Does miles morales need help? Or Kamila Khan?
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Bust Rodd posted:It’s just the watch from Pulp Fiction Fisk likes rambly Bible stories, checks out
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Bust Rodd posted:I know we’re all very excited about Echo and Patriot and Ms Marvel but I’ll be kind of bummed if the young new “face” of the Avengers is a beautiful blonde white woman bolstered by their new de facto ultimate weapon, the most powerful being in the universe… who is also a beautiful blonde white woman First phase wasn't just white, it was very much straight white male. The only "person of color" was Hulk and his color was green - which is like saying that Donald Trump counts as a person of color because his color was orange. Looking at Avengers parallels: Captain America is Sam Wilson, who is black. "Iron Man" is James Rhodey who is also black. "Hawkeye" is (presumably) Kate Bishop or Kate-Bishop as Yelena says who is female and possibly gay/bi Black Widow is Yelena who is still female but possibly also gay/bi Hulk is possibly Jennifer Walters now who is white but green and also female Thor is probably still white and male but might be female depending on how Love and Thunder shakes out and for extra potential team members Shang-chi is Asian Loki is bi Black Panther will certainly be black but also likely female (and unfortunately in at least the next movie likely initially played by anti-vax nutter Letitia Wright) There's a considerable amount of diversity compared the the initial Avengers team of five straight white guys and a token also straight white woman from 2012. Bust Rodd posted:Also, I just… I dunno, Black Widows aren’t team players, and Yelena is still a contract killer. Natasha got fully out of the life so we didn’t have to be conflicted about her, she was transparently seeking redemption for hire crimes. It’s harder to become sympathetic to Yelena, when she’s literally still just accepting wet work for pay and by the sound of it doesn’t really ever bother to think about who she’s murdering. Do we really know that this is true? We learned last episode that Yelena got dusted. And she was dusted while in the middle of tracking down other possible Red Widows and Everyone fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Dec 18, 2021 |
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Dec 18, 2021 18:49
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If Clint is killed by Yelena, then we'll never see her and Kate kiss!
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Everyone posted:"Hawkeye" is (presumably) Kate Bishop or Kate-Bishop as Yelena says who is female and possibly gay/bi I don't recall anything indicating their sexuality one way or another for either character, so is this based on things from the comics? Or have I just missed/forgotten something? Or is it just a case of "there's nothing there now, so it could go any which way in future"? Everyone posted:Thor is probably still white and male but might be female depending on how Love and Thunder shakes out I know there's been no announcement or anything, but I can't imagine Portman coming back for just one movie where she has a secondary role given she left due to how boring a role Jane was in the first two films. I also doubt Disney/Marvel/Feige want Thor to continue a central role in the Avengers when all the other original Avengers have died or retired. I would assume Thor himself will continue to adventure as Odinson or something after leaving with the "Asgaurdians of the Galaxy" at the end of Endgame, because Hemsworth seems to love playing the role now that he can work with directors who'll allow him some freedom in how he approaches it and are willing to be more comic rather than just going for straight dramatic stories, while it seems likely to me that Portman will be Thor for a while. Which, it's possible she'll be the "queen" that Valkyrie is searching for according to the actress too. There's rumors of Angela being in Love and Thunder too, so maybe not. We'll see though, I guess. Thor doesn't even have Mjolnir anymore, he has Stormbreaker. So I would assume Jane will get Mjolnir, assuming the power of Thor. It'd just seem weird for Thor himself to take back Mjolnir when he has Stormbreaker too. It's symbolic of him moving on from the "training wheels" that Mjolnir now represents in the MCU. tsob fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Dec 18, 2021 |
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Going by the comics, Kate is nominally straight but 'not that straight' per the words of another upcoming MCU character. She also has a ton of queer friends to the point where she feels like she's basically the token straight friend.
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tsob posted:I also doubt Disney/Marvel/Feige want Thor to continue a central role in the Avengers when all the other original Avengers have died or retired. It's funny to think that for Thor, who is at least 1500 years old, he only knew the Avengers for just over the decade. From his perspective, they might as well be friends he made at summer camp.
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Dec 18, 2021 19:18
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In It For The Tank posted:It's funny to think that for Thor, who is at least 1500 years old, he only knew the Avengers for just over the decade. From his perspective, they might as well be friends he made at summer camp. "Oh there was this one kid, he was super cool, what was his name... Stan? Dave? No, STEVE! God, he was cool but in like a way where he wasn't trying to be... I wonder what happened to him"
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Thor knows two Steves - there's no guarantee he can tell them apart or knows that one of them died.
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twistedmentat posted:If Clint is killed by Yelena, then we'll never see her and Kate kiss! Marvel would never have the guts to give us the TLoU2. "Stupid old man." Bonk
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RatHat posted:Agents of Shield is not the same continuity as the Netflix shows I know, that was why i said "not too far off," because it is literally every universe except that one. Poor Coulson.
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Thundercracker posted:Marvel would never have the guts to give us the TLoU2. No, they've made objectively terrible stories carried by strong performances before.
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Dec 18, 2021 21:55
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Kate pulling a murder spree like Ellie with the Bow and a machete for the season finale.
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Bust Rodd posted:That’s not what “objectively” means You're right, only like half the performances were any good. Thanks for reminding me.
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I suspect the watch contains a message from Natalie to Clint. Something along the lines of telling him that life is worth living. Advice she would give him when he was Ronin but would apply now.
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tsob posted:I don't recall anything indicating their sexuality one way or another for either character, so is this based on things from the comics? Or have I just missed/forgotten something? Or is it just a case of "there's nothing there now, so it could go any which way in future"? Pretty much the latter combined with a good bit of wishful thinking and just the sheer chemistry between Steinfeld and Pugh in that scene. Also Kate lives very much alone (with only a single real fork) despite being attractive, smart, funny and very personable. Figure if she wanted a boyfriend, she'd have one or five by now. And also the only college people we saw her with were both girls. I'm probably reading too much into it, but I can see at least the possibility of it.
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Bust Rodd posted:I know we’re all very excited about Echo and Patriot and Ms Marvel but I’ll be kind of bummed if the young new “face” of the Avengers is a beautiful blonde white woman bolstered by their new de facto ultimate weapon, the most powerful being in the universe… who is also a beautiful blonde white woman Fwiw on the Marvel page on Disney+, the character in the dead center of the banner is Sam.
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Yeah, like, Hawkeye (Kate) is cool, but Hawkeye is and has never been a centrepiece of the Marvel Universe. Captain America, however, sure as hell is.
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Everyone posted:"Hawkeye" is (presumably) Kate Bishop or Kate-Bishop as Yelena says who is female and possibly gay/bi Perhaps they could be gay for each other 
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Just saw NWH. If you have a chance to see it in the theater safely you won’t regret it. I’m not in the mood for post movie spoiler talk right now, but They made a massive deal about the kids getting into MIT. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they film some of Black Panther 2 at MIT for IronHeart? Possible cameo telegraphing?
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I was watching daredevil again due to the original rumours about kingpin returning but I do have to say, as bloated and stuffed as it would be for one single episode - Hawkeye should fight Bullseye
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Marsupial Ape posted:Just saw NWH. If you have a chance to see it in the theater safely you won’t regret it. They are tech nerds and it's a world class institution that is like a few hours away from their home. Also Tony went there. And Killmonger. And like 99% given tech heroes/villains in the Marvel Universe.
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Re: The NWH post-credits thing and how it connects with the TV shows With the trailer for Dr. Strange 2 at the end, I assume the theory is that the darker looking Dr Strange that shows up at the very end of the trailer is the one from 'What If', right? It sure seems like it could be him now that we are going fully into multiverse stuff.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Re: The NWH post-credits thing and how it connects with the TV shows That was my thought. I think we see like other limbs coming out of him at one point and I think I recall that octupus-thing as one of the mystical beasties that Dark Strange absorbed in that episode.
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Everyone posted:That was my thought. I think we see like other limbs coming out of him at one point and I think I recall that octupus-thing as one of the mystical beasties that Dark Strange absorbed in that episode.
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Dr Strange trailer and leaked Lego set spoilers: The tentacled monster probably isn't Shuma-Gorath as there's a Lego set of it that leaked and it's called something else. I wouldn't be surprised if we see more than a few different Stranges in the multiverse movie.
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mutata posted:Dr Strange trailer and leaked Lego set spoilers: The tentacled monster probably isn't Shuma-Gorath as there's a Lego set of it that leaked and it's called something else. I wouldn't be surprised if we see more than a few different Stranges in the multiverse movie. Dunno about the Lego stuff but did you not spot the honkin' big eyeball at the centre of the tentacle mass just before Strange splits the van in half? If that ain't Shuma-Gorath then I don't know what is..!
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Aidan_702 posted:I was watching daredevil again due to the original rumours about kingpin returning but I do have to say, as bloated and stuffed as it would be for one single episode - Hawkeye should fight Bullseye But like, actual Bullseye, not whatever Totally Not Bullseye they had in Daredevil.
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mutata posted:Dr Strange trailer and leaked Lego set spoilers: The tentacled monster probably isn't Shuma-Gorath as there's a Lego set of it that leaked and it's called something else. I wouldn't be surprised if we see more than a few different Stranges in the multiverse movie. Yeah it’s Gargantos, a Namor villain.
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Mulva posted:They are tech nerds and it's a world class institution that is like a few hours away from their home. Also Tony went there. And Killmonger. And like 99% given tech heroes/villains in the Marvel Universe. That’s it. That’s where the problem starts Mephisto Institute of Technology .
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Marsupial Ape posted:That’s it. That’s where the problem starts Mephisto Institute of Technology . No, the problem started when the MCU Massachusetts Institute of Technology was built on the same grounds as the Mephisto Institute of Demonology (President A. Harkness)
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