Gearhead posted:

And this is why, ever since I got her, the Starbird has been my minion of choice.

'We are going on an ADVENTURE!'

sweet geek swag posted:

The jobline in question I'm pretty sure is Dancer which you can unlock before you have even entered STB and can definitely complete before you have completed the expansion, but the job actually released in SHB so for it makes sense that they would need to have two different lines for whether or not Ala Mhigo has been liberated yet. If you are post STB doing current content shouldn't throw you back in time, but mid STB "Hey good job liberating Ala Mhigo!" would be out of place.

OddObserver posted:

RDM questline isn't really related to main plot events, IIRC.

quote:

The initial flavor is
(1)akin to chewing on rotten garbage
(2)one of otherworldly astringency
(3)so complex as to be unidentifiable
(4)like a numbness in the tip of your tongue
(5)akin to mushy grain filling your mouth
(6)like a rush of indescribable hatred
(7)like savoring the absurdity of mankind
(8)an affront to the gods themselves

, which gradually transitions into

(1)an overwhelming sensation of nausea
(2)a feeling of intense regret
(3)a hauntingly unpleasant aftertaste
(4)an overall sense of crushing emptiness
(5)a disturbingly solid mass of congealed blandness
(6)a sense of deep and abiding despair
(7)an awareness of your own futility in the face of inexorable fate
(8)a bleakly entropic aftertaste

It is quite possibly the worst thing you have ever eaten.

Pharohman777 posted:

So the start of the studium faculty of medicine quest has randomized descriptions for the description of the awful food you try.
Here's the various options the game can choose.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Perfectly_Awful#Dialogue

Pharohman777 posted:

So the start of the studium faculty of medicine quest has randomized descriptions for the description of the awful food you try.
Here's the various options the game can choose.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Perfectly_Awful#Dialogue

Hogama posted:

Guessing it's just matched pairs, then, as I got the 3rd set.

I am rather enjoying paying attention to the storylines in the DoH/DoL branches, including the gleaner leves - and who the clients are.

Pharohman777 posted:

So the start of the studium faculty of medicine quest has randomized descriptions for the description of the awful food you try.
Here's the various options the game can choose.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Perfectly_Awful#Dialogue

Xarbala posted:

I didn't respond to most of your posts directly because I didn't really have issue with them on the matter of your subjective experience. If anything, I would argue that your opinions on Venat were shared by the character herself. Other characters view her more charitably because from their perspective they would not exist if not for her actions before the time loop. And after the time loop if not for her they would not be able to beat Meteion. The Scions are in a position where probably feel they can't be too harsh on the woman who sacrificed so much of herself to give them a fighting chance, even if she is arguably as much of a monster as Emet is. Same as how they can still sympathize with Emet and even accept him in the end, though they challenged him for the right to live and opposed his atrocities.

The narrative also takes the perspective of the WoL and the people they're fighting for, who are the modern Etheirysians. And they are absolutely on Hydaelyn's side who else would they side with? The people who would genocide them to recreate a lost world? You can be dissatisfied with that, sure, but it is what it is..

But yeah, I mean.

If nothing else your opinion is valid, even if I do not share, so I can't really say much else about it beyond that. I'm sorry if the vibe of discussion has gotten hostile around you.

Pharohman777 posted:

(6)a sense of deep and abiding despair
(7)an awareness of your own futility in the face of inexorable fate

Hogama posted:

Guessing it's just matched pairs, then, as I got the 3rd set.

I am rather enjoying paying attention to the storylines in the DoH/DoL branches, including the gleaner leves - and who the clients are.

quote:

Includes a unique serial number and certificate of authenticity supposedly signed by Hydaelyn Herself.

Pharohman777 posted:

So Hydaelyn herself apparently made certificates of authenticity for her crafting drop before she died.
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Crystal_of_Divine_Light

Crystal of Divine Light

Countblanc posted:

it was weird reading that someone literally cheered when the garlean dude shot himself, when the game obviously wants you to think it's a somber and tragic moment that he couldn't be saved (in the moral sense)

quote:

A member of the seventh civilization with which Meteion came into contact, this many-legged entity's culture prizes the number of limbs one possesses above all else, seeing each as a mark of higher intellect. One can only imagine its despair at being fished up by a primitive organism with a mere four.

quote:

Once sentient and vaguely manlike, this creature accidentally transformed itself into a desiccated husk following a botched attempt at immortality. Now, it can do naught save drift sadly along the currents of the cosmos.

quote:

Though it resembles naught so much as a free-floating eyeball, the Ea insist that this creature is in fact a mere appendage of an “extra-dimensional” entity with which they made contact during their “space-time exploration phase,” meant to keep an eye on the observable cosmos. Those familiar with said cosmos attest that in either case, it has likely “seen some things.”

Onmi posted:

Also it was likely hard to take his scene seriously because I'd installed a mod to change the max height of hyur midlanders

Onmi posted:

Quintus lost my sympathy when he chose to send his people to attack the people here to help him. knowing they were wounded, starving, and in need of aid. His pride came before his people. My feelings can be summed up as thus.

You were probably a good leader, Quintus, but it's a shame you were such a poo poo man. I was happy he shot himself because at that moment I despised him for not caring about his own people and how they were suffering. He was a representation of an ideology that was dying, founded upon lies in its infancy, and purposefully designed to propagate violence for the sake of a shadow cabal of people with their own issues. If you want to refuse aid and die a dogs death on your own terms you go ahead and do that but don't you dare drag the people into your bullshit because of your ideals. It was a tragic conclusion to a tragic and depressing arc that stood out in stark constrast to the world we'd left in The First, when people had put aside their bullshit to come together in the face of the end.

That's all I could think to respond whenever we were asked "What do you get out of this?" Well, first and foremost, the world doesn't end, which is a pretty big upside for me. I'm quite a fan of this thing called 'living' and it's really rather difficult to continue that when the world ends.

Also it was likely hard to take his scene seriously because I'd installed a mod to change the max height of hyur midlanders, which is when I learned that cinematics tied items in hands to height. So uh... Quintus's gun was hovering below his hand. And when Fandaniel poured the wine in a later scene, he poured it on the table missing the glass... which actually felt totally in character with Fandaniel.

Gnossiennes posted:

curious what kind of depravity this mod is for

Pharohman777 posted:

Another the eye of a extradimensional being.
E.B.E.-9318

quote:

Though it resembles naught so much as a free-floating eyeball, the Ea insist that this creature is in fact a mere appendage of an “extra-dimensional” entity with which they made contact during their “space-time exploration phase,” meant to keep an eye on the observable cosmos. Those familiar with said cosmos attest that in either case, it has likely “seen some things.”

Pharohman777 posted:

This one is a botched attempt at immortality.

Space Bishop

quote:

Once sentient and vaguely manlike, this creature accidentally transformed itself into a desiccated husk following a botched attempt at immortality. Now, it can do naught save drift sadly along the currents of the cosmos.

cheetah7071 posted:

if I had to summarize the message of endwalker in two words, it'd be "suicide bad"

in the moral and emotional framework of endwalker, quintus dying is a tragedy. Like, it's not saying to just forgive and welcome with open arms, but a corpse can't make amends, and even quintus might have, in another world, accepted his defeat and begun the slow process of moving forward along with his fellows. When faced with the question "why live when faced with the hardships inherent in life?" he answers "why indeed" and ends himself.

the healer role quest is basically about the exact same thing: you don't have to forgive the ala mhigan collaborators, but the right thing to do is to try to move forward and break the cycle of vengeance (which has been a theme of this game since at least heavensward)

Onmi posted:

And when Fandaniel poured the wine in a later scene, he poured it on the table missing the glass... which actually felt totally in character with Fandaniel.

cheetah7071 posted:

the healer role quest is basically about the exact same thing: you don't have to forgive the ala mhigan collaborators, but the right thing to do is to try to move forward and break the cycle of vengeance (which has been a theme of this game since at least heavensward)

Pigbuster posted:

Cleretic posted:

The healer role quest is currently standing as my favorite story content in all of Endwalker. And I take it as a bit of a more realistic form of the situation that Amaurot makes for itself; it's about the pains that arise when your approach to a tragedy is to ignore it, rather than to address it.

Everyone is suffering from the fact nobody really got any closure or resolution about the Crania Lupi, and just tried to move on from it. Their victims now look down on their families, their families now riddled with guilt themselves, and Fordola--the only actual survivor of the squad--grappling with so many unresolved issues that she's getting close to becoming a danger to everyone. It's a problem that Ala Mhigo has to sit down and acknowledge, because it's not going to actually go away.

Chillgamesh posted:

the only thing I was thinking of during quintus's suicide scene was both "yeah this was always how it was gonna end up for him" and "drat thats a nice gun"

sexpig by night posted:

yea I really enjoyed the healer quest, no magic 'oh okay we forgive you for the whole violent betrayal of your people' or 'actually it's fine you treated us like poo poo', just kinda a quiet understanding of 'we can't keep just ignoring this if we're going to be a functional country'

Cleretic posted:

Everyone is suffering from the fact nobody really got any closure or resolution about the Crania Lupi, and just tried to move on from it. Their victims now look down on their families, their families now riddled with guilt themselves, and Fordola--the only actual survivor of the squad--grappling with so many unresolved issues that she's getting close to becoming a danger to everyone. It's a problem that Ala Mhigo has to sit down and acknowledge, because it's not going to actually go away.

Cleretic posted:

I also like that it gives voice to both sides' issues while never claiming either to be more valid than the other. It's 'your sons and daughters joined our oppressors and victimized us' versus 'our sons and daughters made a terrible decision under duress to keep us safe', and neither side is painted as wrong for feeling that way. Hell, serious props for managing to walk that tightrope while having Fordola be right there basically as active kindling for both sides' fires.

Do the healer quests, everyone. I'm beginning to think that FFXIV genuinely tries to motivate people to play healer by giving them the best role quests.

ImpAtom posted:

I do think there is some degree of "I'm upset at the idea that utopia isn't truly possible" in the discussion that is hard to get past which is why it keeps coming back to some degree to the flaws of current society.

Ither posted:

Oh, yeah this is might be it.

I actually do thing utopia/paradise is truly possible. Like as a point of faith.

Countblanc posted: