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"The beatings shall continue until morale improves." - Democrats on restarting loan payments in order to say the economy is fixed forever
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 04:43 |
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Guys, just look at the bright side to all of this -- when the Dems get crushed in 2022 and 2024, they're going to reflect on their defeats and learn from them They will I promise
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 04:44 |
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Guys, just look at the bright side to all of this -- when the Dems get crushed in 2022 and 2024, they're going to reflect on their defeats and learn from them Since Carter: poo poo, we lost! We must become MORE conservative!
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 04:45 |
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Shammypants posted:This is a nation of "sink those others ships to improve my condition" rather than "raising all ships." I wonder if providing student debt relief actually hurts you at the polls in America of 2022/2024. Aren't you the guy that was chiding people in this thread over a month ago for dare doubting the imminent passage of BBB? How ya holding up?
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 04:48 |
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MooselanderII posted:Aren't you the guy that was chiding people in this thread over a month ago for dare doubting the imminent passage of BBB? How ya holding up? It will pass, it's not a great bill anymore from where it was once originally but I am not entirely sure what your little bitch boy drive by troll has to do with debt relief and the general public turning on those who implement it. TheIncredulousHulk posted:Whether or not debt forgiveness would be a vote gainer or a vote loser(I'd put all my belongings on gainer), it's still ultimately orthogonal to Democratic opposition to it. Those that are against it aren't against it because of electoral math and if it would actually be a loser, that's just a convenient coincidence Frankly I think internal and other polling is exactly why the Democrats dropped it. It's the same reason the stupid SALT poo poo is in BBB now, the electoral benefits of keeping it in exceed the costs of keeping it in apparently. Shammypants fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Dec 19, 2021 |
# ? Dec 19, 2021 05:21 |
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What would be the top 3 things the Democrats could enact that would appeal to the widest spectrum of voters?
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 05:27 |
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https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1472292258808582156 without getting into whether or not i believe the ethical or pragmatic policy should be telling the unvaccinated "gently caress you and die", i can say i'm rather surprised that a democrat took such an unequivocal stance! e: holy gently caress lmao https://twitter.com/Chamale0/status/1472214764088487936 A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Dec 19, 2021 |
# ? Dec 19, 2021 05:27 |
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All those 5 years and younger chose to be in an age group unable to be safely vaccinated, so they should prepare for a winter of severe illness and death.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 05:41 |
Shammypants posted:Frankly I think internal and other polling is exactly why the Democrats dropped it. It's the same reason the stupid SALT poo poo is in BBB now, the electoral benefits of keeping it in exceed the costs of keeping it in apparently. Okay well you are completely, rear end-backwardly wrong
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 05:51 |
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Dick Trauma posted:What would be the top 3 things the Democrats could enact that would appeal to the widest spectrum of voters?
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 05:55 |
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Dick Trauma posted:What would be the top 3 things the Democrats could enact that would appeal to the widest spectrum of voters?
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 06:02 |
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Truly the way to show their is no crisis by hitting the core 25-35 college graduates that vote for us 73% of the time. Surely this is the best way. Charitably assuming that they have some kind of strategy in mind here, I think their calculations are assuming that the 25-35 college graduates will vote blue out of learned helplessness because the Republican death cult is so horrifying and repellent. This completely ignores the "not bothering to vote" option, of course, but that's hardly the first time the dems have forgotten about that potential choice.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 06:35 |
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vote for whichever candidate increases the chance of the US getting into a mutlifront war it cannot hope to win; reform is not possible without decisive defeat vote dem
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 07:13 |
A big flaming stink posted:https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1472292258808582156 Here's the actual press briefing, with the preceding and following material Bragman cuts out: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...h-officials-74/ quote:MR. ZIENTS: Good morning. And thanks for joining us. He links it later in the tweet thread, but elides the parts of the statement (immediately following what he screenshots) to pretend that the statement is only that vaccination matters and that nothing else is being done. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 08:00 |
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Nothing more pathetic than a government with the largest coercive apparatus in history telling its citizens very nicely to please get a vaccine. I guess lithium mines are more important than the country itself.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 09:19 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's the actual press briefing, with the preceding and following material Bragman cuts out: What else is being done?
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 09:38 |
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I am definitely feeling better about the prospects of the economy now that I have an extra $500 bill to pay each month that I didn't have to pay the last two years.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 10:03 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's the actual press briefing, with the preceding and following material Bragman cuts out: Oh of course, they're also........... asking people to wear masks? How brave of them
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 14:21 |
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I’m not sure he’s ever been this explicit as part of his cycle. Usually he waffles more. https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1472569252376989699?s=21
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:15 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's the actual press briefing, with the preceding and following material Bragman cuts out: Nothing meaningful is being done you loving bootlicker (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:16 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's the actual press briefing, with the preceding and following material Bragman cuts out: Oh hey it’s the same poo poo they’ve been doing for months now!
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:19 |
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AOC was right lol. https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1472576495377911810
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:39 |
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Shammypants posted:It will pass Not sure how anyone can see the endless self-negotiating to theatrically and loudly prove bona fides by stripping any and everything that would irritate the donor class out of the bill before seeing it get it's throat slit and thrown in a trunk so it can quietly die out of the talking-head line of sight where the public is no longer reminded of it's existence, and STILL think it's going to pass.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:41 |
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Maybe the B, or even the BB, will pass someday soon but the BBB is a goner. eta this Politico story showing the confidence of the Dems heading into a midterms-election year: quote:CHARLESTON, S.C. — Democratic Party leaders moved quietly this week to lower expectations for the midterm elections as they met for year-end talks against the backdrop of an increasingly bleak electoral landscape. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Dec 19, 2021 |
# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:51 |
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A bill called Build Back Better will eventually pass but at this rate even the scant few table scraps they're offering won't be in it.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:52 |
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Dick Trauma posted:What would be the top 3 things the Democrats could enact that would appeal to the widest spectrum of voters? m4a, legal weed, 15$ min wage, cancelling student debt all poll at around 70% approve, but are somehow politically unrealistic.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:55 |
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BBB will end up renaming several post offices and increasing the military budget.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 15:57 |
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Surprise https://twitter.com/AP/status/1472579869389332492?s=20
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:03 |
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May all the soda he drinks be flat, and all the chips be stale.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:05 |
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quote:“Look, look, Democrats, midterms are never easy,” he said. “But none of us in this room are here today because the work is easy. We’re here because the work matters.” After all, if they don't defend the capital ruling class at the expense of literally everyone else, who will?
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:07 |
Just amazing how the gerontocracy is just absolutely consuming the future of its children. A whole generation of people that got everything handed to them just systematically pulling the ladder up. It became just so apparent to me when I tried to explain to my Boomer parents (who did absolutely dick for me on my way up) how expensive literally everything is these days, and how much money we’re having to put out to handle things like health care, preK, and school savings for our kid. Just a completely different world and they just have no frame of reference.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:10 |
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:19 |
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A vote for Biden ended up with a one term Dem president, a flipped GOP Senate and House, no Civil Rights bill, no BBB bill, etc. Trump didn't need a coup, he just needed to sit back and watch Biden and co. implode. At least Biden saved me $.02 in gas.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:21 |
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:A vote for Biden ended up with a one term Dem president, a flipped GOP Senate and House, no Civil Rights bill, no BBB bill, etc. Can you tell me the power ball numbers while you’re gazing into your crystal ball?
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:23 |
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I'd say lmao the loving idiot but it'll probably get him a shitload of votes. edit: I do hope that now that he's actually torching the party the Dems do something but also lmao
TGLT fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Dec 19, 2021 |
# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:24 |
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What an absolutely stupid evil dumb fucker Get hosed forever. Someone should capsize the fucker's precious boat Nice of the US Federal Government to shrug and say "Winter is Coming" and then put less effort into stopping the world ending cataclysm then loving Cersei Lannister "Yeah a bunch of you are going to die and go broke, but THINK OF THE ECONOMY (for olds and rich people)!" Can't possibly do another stumulus and shut down to stop the highly contagious variant: what if the rich get mad about inflation?! I want to know which specific donors are pushing this awful poo poo, so they can be boycotted and hacked into loving oblivion. TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Dec 19, 2021 |
# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:27 |
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https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/1472585138810798083?t=gRqdIsoBjuOADd0esk-M9Q&s=19 Manchin makes it sound like the economy is on the verge of collapse, I wonder if he wants loan payments to restart though lol. Thom12255 fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Dec 19, 2021 |
# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:27 |
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"This is a pretty funny act, what do you call it?" "The Manchin Cycle!"
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:28 |
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Ogmius815 posted:Can you tell me the power ball numbers while you’re gazing into your crystal ball? After Dems get wrecked in 2022, what conceivable way does Biden stand a chance if reelection or getting anything remotely close to the BBB bill passed if they can't even get the current one passed and it's already been watered down? Oh, don't forget the old gently caress on the Surpreme Court who doesn't want to retire, he is guaranteeing a vacant spot when he has a change of heart or dies because the GOP sure as hell won't let a nomination go through.
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:32 |
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Thom12255 posted:https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/1472585138810798083?t=gRqdIsoBjuOADd0esk-M9Q&s=19 Ah. Omicron cases are rising. But has anyone mentioned our rising debt?!
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# ? Dec 19, 2021 16:35 |