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I want to drat every soul that ever was to live every life that has ever lived on this hell rock from start to finish and the ask them if it was worth it.
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Dec 19, 2021 11:12
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Nietzsche was right when he said the fate of humanity would rely on the overcoming of nihilism. This thread doesn't try at all, it just wallows. Things matter now more than they ever have.
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Dec 19, 2021 12:50
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All evidence points to the planet being irreversibly fatally damaged and no person who browses this thread is in a position to do anything to meaningfully stop it (anything that could have once made a difference is illegal to even discuss). I'm not sure how recognizing that and coming to terms with its impact on what's left of our lives is nihilistic
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Dec 19, 2021 13:08
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Dec 19, 2021 13:10
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conservation work and abolishing pipelines and drilling would be a step~
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Dec 19, 2021 13:14
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Lastgirl posted:conservation work and abolishing pipelines and drilling would be a step~ Too expensive
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Dec 19, 2021 13:17
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Lastgirl posted:conservation work and abolishing pipelines and drilling would be a step~ A step towards the government killing you for threatening the mechanism which gives them the authority to remain in power, sure.
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Dec 19, 2021 13:19
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I was inspired so I just went out and abolished a pipeline. Turns out anyone can do it let's goooo
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Dec 19, 2021 13:39
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used loose leaf tea instead of a tea bag today doing my part!! 
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Dec 19, 2021 14:15
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meditated nonstop until i developed sub-zero powers then went up to the arctic to refreeze it, doing what i can
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Dec 19, 2021 14:18
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I put some leaves in my cars gas tank so it runs on half renewables now
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Dec 19, 2021 14:23
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splifyphus posted:Nietzsche was right when he said the fate of humanity would rely on the overcoming of nihilism. This thread doesn't try at all, it just wallows. it's the other way round, things matter less and less as we march to our doom
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Dec 19, 2021 14:58
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Whitenoise Poster posted:I never been able to believe in a magical afterlife, but if there was one, I would love a chance to speak to all the old dead philosophers, scientists, activist, revolutionaries, civil rights leaders, certain authors and artists and generally anyone with a deeply optimistic and kind view of the future, humanity, and who truly thought the things they said and did mattered, and that there was some bright shining future for people. A good lot of them probably believed in armageddon anyway, and would likely factor climate collapse into that pre-existing belief system anyway I more interesting discussion would begin with "so we proved God doesn't exist..."
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Dec 19, 2021 15:05
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me, lungs riddled with cancer: "i should try to accept my fate" some dumbass goon: "no you fool! stopping smoking now matters more than ever before"
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Dec 19, 2021 15:54
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at this point I just assume "guys if we all just set our minds to it we can turn this around!" is a cry for help
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Dec 19, 2021 15:59
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I can point at a whole stand of trees that I planted, I expect things will start getting better any day now.
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Dec 19, 2021 16:31
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planting trees as carbon scrubbers around my prepper house
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Dec 19, 2021 16:32
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Whitenoise Poster posted:I never been able to believe in a magical afterlife, but if there was one, I would love a chance to speak to all the old dead philosophers, scientists, activist, revolutionaries, civil rights leaders, certain authors and artists and generally anyone with a deeply optimistic and kind view of the future, humanity, and who truly thought the things they said and did mattered, and that there was some bright shining future for people. People’s lives and experiences still matter even if we all die of starvation while hunkering down during the big dust tornado bowl of 2030. That’s the same mindset as “why do anything nothing matters” - now still matters dude. Just enjoy life, you’re gonna die eventually whether it’s climate change related or whatever.
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Dec 19, 2021 16:39
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Throwing plastic in the ocean brb
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Dec 19, 2021 16:41
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Lastgirl posted:planting trees as carbon scrubbers around my prepper house just make sure to give yourself denfensible space https://www.readyforwildfire.org/wp-content/uploads/DefensibleSpaceFlyer.pdf
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Dec 19, 2021 17:12
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if i plant any trees or blow up any pipelines, it is going to be wholly motivated by spite
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Dec 19, 2021 17:19
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Rime posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/YETICapital99/status/1471969771222618113/photo/1 I remember telling people that with considerable warming means more energy input into the earth, which means higher wind speeds. Turns out that really happens during winter. so we are gonna have stagnant heat during summer burning everything, and then 100mph wind storms yearly during winter. Forever more, forever storm, wind, wind wind.
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Dec 19, 2021 17:21
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splifyphus posted:Nietzsche was right when he said the fate of humanity would rely on the overcoming of nihilism. This thread doesn't try at all, it just wallows. unless you're coming in here with any real suggestions as to how we can make things better, maybe criticizing the people in the thread for recognizing the crisis we're in isn't the best move "things matter now more than they ever have" but we're utterly removed from the levers of power. i have tried to fight things at the lowest political level possible and it resulted in personal attacks, tens of thousands of dollars spent against me and a real look into how vested power actually responds to threats
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Dec 19, 2021 17:25
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so build wind resistant dome houses, got it
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Dec 19, 2021 17:25
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Dec 19, 2021 17:32
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Dec 19, 2021 17:38
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im doing my part: voting Democrat this November!
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Dec 19, 2021 17:44
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Trabisnikof posted:im doing my part: voting Democrat this November! we'll know who the 1 vote for dem nationwide was then
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Dec 19, 2021 17:48
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Dec 19, 2021 17:48
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splifyphus posted:Nietzsche was right when he said the fate of humanity would rely on the overcoming of nihilism. This thread doesn't try at all, it just wallows. wallowigi
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Dec 19, 2021 17:54
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Dec 19, 2021 18:05
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Literally laying in bed on this dreary Sunday morning catching up on all 3 of these threads. Lmao
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Dec 19, 2021 18:06
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well thanks for all stumbling over yourselves to prove my point. I'll try to provide an example of actually trying to combat nihilism rather than just mainlining it.T-Paine posted:All evidence points to the planet being irreversibly fatally damaged and no person who browses this thread is in a position to do anything to meaningfully stop it (anything that could have once made a difference is illegal to even discuss). I'm not sure how recognizing that and coming to terms with its impact on what's left of our lives is nihilistic that's all true, and here's something else that's true: this mentality is a self-fulfilling prophecy. you share this mentality with oil execs, the big bourgeoisie, and p much all of liberaldom. the least you can do for yourself in your last gasping, meaningless moments is maybe try to differentiate your own viewpoint from the people responsible, right? CODChimera posted:it's the other way round, things matter less and less as we march to our doom another self fulfilling prophecy, and also not true. there will come a moment when there is only one human left - perhaps it is at that moment that things will matter most. Cold on a Cob posted:me, lungs riddled with cancer: "i should try to accept my fate" in this hypothetical, the difference is between whether one dies as a smoker, or whether one dies having beaten the addiction. this is a meaningful difference to the smoker. blatman posted:at this point I just assume "guys if we all just set our minds to it we can turn this around!" is a cry for help that's not at all what I said, but if you want something affirmative then how about this: if we're collectively powerful enough to cause a mass extinction event, we're collectively powerful enough to stop it. Cloks posted:unless you're coming in here with any real suggestions as to how we can make things better, maybe criticizing the people in the thread for recognizing the crisis we're in isn't the best move it's not the recognition of the crisis that's the problem, it's that there's a hidden automatic decision already in how you're all recognizing the problem. you're all going "welp; we're totally hosed - > nothing matters and we're completely helpless" - in one smooth habitual gesture, which reproduces your social conditioning without remainder. it's liberalism. The gently caress do y'all want to die liberals for, bitches? how about this "welp; the situation is hosed and we're totally helpless - > may as well die throwing my body into the gears of the machine in the most effective way possible. quote:"things matter now more than they ever have" but we're utterly removed from the levers of power. i have tried to fight things at the lowest political level possible and it resulted in personal attacks, tens of thousands of dollars spent against me and a real look into how vested power actually responds to threats ya man i know how imperialist society works, but your assessment is undialectical. you're assuming the status quo power structure is permanent and intractable. it is not. it could collapse overnight, and your nihilist rear end wouldn't be organized or promethean enough to take advantage of the power vacuum.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:09
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The Vinja Ninja posted:I remember telling people that with considerable warming means more energy input into the earth, which means higher wind speeds. Turns out that really happens during winter. Ayup. For anyone else: quote:Since warm air is less dense and creates less air pressure, it will rise; cold air is denser and creates greater air pressure, and so it will sink. When warm air rises, cooler air will often move in to replace it, so wind often moves from areas where it's colder to areas where it's warmer. The greater the difference between the high and low pressure or the shorter the distance between the high and low pressure areas, the faster the wind will blow. Wind also blows faster if there's nothing in its way, so winds are usually stronger over oceans or flat ground. Meteorologists can forecast the speed and direction of wind by measuring air pressure with a barometer. There's a whole little terminology field you can dig into like Katabatic winds, Adiabatic winds, but at the end of the day it's warm or cool air interacting with warm or cool land / water masses to drive wind speeds. Who could have known that adding a shitload of heat energy would crank the outcome dial on those interactions?!? Not as if sailors have understood this poo poo for centuries or anything.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:13
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splifyphus posted:in this hypothetical, the difference is between whether one dies as a smoker, or whether one dies having beaten the addiction. this is a meaningful difference to the smoker. i watched my dad die of esophageal cancer from a lifetime of smoking, no it doesn't matter. what the gently caress.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:15
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splifyphus posted:
causing the problem and stopping the problem are two entirely different types of problem, think of it more like suggesting you can stop your house from having burned down because you started the fire
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Dec 19, 2021 18:17
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splifyphus posted:Nietzsche was right when he said the fate of humanity would rely on the overcoming of nihilism. This thread doesn't try at all, it just wallows. I'm excitedly drawing up plans for my future underground society where we primarily grow and harvest lichen to boil for soup
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Dec 19, 2021 18:17
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splifyphus posted:well thanks for all stumbling over yourselves to prove my point. I'll try to provide an example of actually trying to combat nihilism rather than just mainlining it. All these words and you still couldn’t come up with anything for us to do to actually help the climate.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:18
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Trabisnikof posted:All these words and you still couldn’t come up with anything for us to do to actually help the climate. have you considered throwing your body into the gears of power? I'm very smart, by the way.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:20
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And I disagree with the thread consensus, I think there are actually goons reading this thread powerful enough to actually have a meaningful impact on climate policy. Just look how many CIA officers we have in this forum, I’m sure we have someone working in the BLM or EPA too. But their either already doing whatever they can or they’re liberals eagerly killing the planet. No amount of positive or negative posting will change what they do. So there’s nothing to be done by policing this space and demanding “no depression. no sadness. optimism only! Or else what if Biden reads this thread and decides to give up on climate”
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Dec 19, 2021 18:21
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