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kiimo posted:don't be an rear end in a top hat dont lie to healthcare professionals
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https://twitter.com/POTUS?ref_src=t...ingawful.com%2F Well at least one of the things we've discussed in this thread looks like it's going to happen. Mr Joe Biden if you're reading this please do the same thing with N95 masks and establish a federal jobs program for contact tracing, TIA.
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Dec 21, 2021 23:06
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Professor Beetus posted:Well at least one of the things we've discussed in this thread looks like it's going to happen. Mr Joe Biden if you're reading this please do the same thing with N95 masks and establish a federal jobs program for contact tracing, TIA. Maine just fired all their school contact tracing staff and declared all school outbreaks closed and aren't going to restart next year.
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Dec 21, 2021 23:20
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Maine just fired all their school contact tracing staff and declared all school outbreaks closed and aren't going to restart next year. Well that seems like the opposite of good. v Covid free? No, free Covid! v Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Dec 22, 2021 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Maine just fired all their school contact tracing staff and declared all school outbreaks closed and aren't going to restart next year. Good to hear that they managed to permanently beat covid and haven't had a any cases in months. Why else would they decide to do that, after all.
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:dont lie to healthcare professionals A healthcare professional is who told me to do that. I didn't, but anyway.
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Dec 22, 2021 00:04
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What's your issue with this? I think there's been data out for quite a while showing waning at 65 days in that population (and probably everyone).
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Dec 22, 2021 00:31
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dwarf74 posted:Still not sure why the spit-in-a-tube PCR test hasn't gotten more widespread use compared to the deep nasal swabs. Seriously, I love the spit test. I can be in and out in three minutes and two of that is parking the drat car.
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Dec 22, 2021 00:38
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Wang Commander posted:What's your issue with this? I think there's been data out for quite a while showing waning at 65 days in that population (and probably everyone). Honestly I would say anyone who has an issue with covid vaccines every 6 months is either: 1) anti-science / anti-vax 2) brainwashed into neoliberal ideology This has been known since delta and to be surprised at this point is to admit to not paying attention (which I wouldn’t say is a bad thing given hold dire the covid news is).
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Honestly I would say anyone who has an issue with covid vaccines every 6 months is either: What the heck does “neoliberal ideology” even mean in this context?
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Incidence of myocarditis increased with the 3rd dose though it was only really of concern in younger men (under 25). It's not anti-science to say additional vaccine doses should go through some testing for safety and efficacy. That's literally the definition of good science, it's precautionary principle. You don't just give people a booster every 6mo because it was the correct thing to do for the third shot, you test it first. Presumably Israel has already tested fourth doses before they started rolling them out.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Honestly I would say anyone who has an issue with covid vaccines every 6 months is either: Sure, but those people exist. It's unfortunate that boosters appear to need to be that often because like it or not, it's going to limit uptake. People saying that's unfortunate doesn't mean they are anti-science / antivax, just that they know other people are and the more frequent vaccines are required, the less uptake we're going to see.
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Dec 22, 2021 02:02
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What's a neoliberal and what ideology of theirs means they won't take booster shots
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If anything, "neoliberal ideology" would be 100% behind "just pay this pharmaceutical company every 6 months and the problem is solved, we don't need any of those icky NPIs that harm our precious economy"
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Honestly I would say anyone who has an issue with covid vaccines every 6 months is either: Neoliberalism would be enthusiasm for 2x yearly boosters if they were sold by drug manufacturers and distributed by private pharmacies and health providers, with end-user costs covered by a means-tested tax credit that must be requested by mail with .pdf forms that can only be printed on home printers. Also the manufacturers own the vaccine patents and the genome sequences of all people involved in clinical trials, in perpetuity.
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Dec 22, 2021 02:07
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I have definitely seen weirdos online saying "oh so pretty soon they're gonna want you to take a FOURTH shot!" to imply it's all some Big Pharma conspiracy or whatever. I personally do not give a gently caress, I get a flu shot every year, if I have to get a COVID shot three times a year that will still be by far the least onerous thing that has been imposed on me during the last two years.
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kiimo posted:I'm sure this has been mentioned but I had J&J March 17th and just got my Moderna booster like 30 minutes ago. Don't lie to health care workers
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Honestly I would say anyone who has an issue with covid vaccines every 6 months is either: It could simply be "it sucks we have to keep getting boosted"
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Dec 22, 2021 02:18
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brugroffil posted:It could simply be "it sucks we have to keep getting boosted" It can suck all it wants but you'd have to be dumb as gently caress to thing getting Covid wouldn't be worse. Unfortunately *gestures at nationwide US vaccination rates*
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Dec 22, 2021 02:54
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Right. Sometimes reality sucks. It's okay to acknowledge that even as you accept it as fact. It sucks that we'll so likely need fourth boosters. Maybe annual or semi annual covid shots.
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Dec 22, 2021 02:59
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dwarf74 posted:You read that wrong. It's not until Feb 1st, it's changing the plan that's currently to restart Feb 1st. Mellow Seas posted:Really, if you are reading "the White House is very seriously considering moving the resumption of payments by one day, and this is a news story" maybe apply some critical thinking and realize you're probably not reading things right. Yeah I guess I'm just completely loving defeated politically enough to think this was a thing. Thanks for pointing out that I misread this.
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Dec 22, 2021 03:01
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kiimo posted:I'm sure this has been mentioned but I had J&J March 17th and just got my Moderna booster like 30 minutes ago. I’d talk to more doctors, but getting your Moderna shot post-J&J is more like getting a second shot than a first. You definitely shouldn’t need another shot in three weeks, though you might consider another booster within six months (hopefully they’ll be more data by then). There’s increasing evidence that post-second-dose effectiveness is a bit better and longer lasting with a larger interval between doses. The three-week interval used initially was mostly to get people fully protected as quickly as possible since you’re more vulnerable between doses 1 and 2. That’s less of a problem between dose 2 and a booster, though again keep an eye out for booster waning data for J&J initial shots. Those are good questions and I don’t think we even have preliminary answers to things like “how quickly does boosted J&J protection wane”.
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Looking at the current available data, I’m thinking that Omicron is going to be worse than Delta. Much worse. Granted, the vaccinated will be fine. And I don’t think there’s much we’re able to given that everyone is exhausted with all the restrictions and there no political will. Please tell me I’m wrong, I would love for things to finally get better.
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Dec 22, 2021 03:17
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This sound legit? https://twitter.com/OKnox/status/1473476555804487693?s=20
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Dec 22, 2021 03:37
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nah bro never heard of it
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Several different entities have indeed been developing a pancoronavirus vaccine and let's all hope to God it works.
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kiimo posted:I'm sure this has been mentioned but I had J&J March 17th and just got my Moderna booster like 30 minutes ago. Yes, you should have lied. No, 3 weeks is too soon if you got a J&J boost.
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Wang Commander posted:What's your issue with this? I think there's been data out for quite a while showing waning at 65 days in that population (and probably everyone). Boosters hit me hard and my third shot of Moderna gave me full blown 100.4F fever and chills for a day. Just not looking forward to endless boosters when every one costs me a day of feeling lovely is all.
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skylined! posted:This sound legit? It has to work, though. How long until we know that?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It has to work, though. How long until we know that? regardless of its efficacy it will have to go through clinical trials
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Looking at the current available data, I’m thinking that Omicron is going to be worse than Delta. Much worse. Granted, the vaccinated will be fine. "Granted, the vaccinated (+ boosted) will be better protected" is more accurate, unfortunately.
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Dec 22, 2021 04:18
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Drew Weissman, the dude who worked with Katalin Kariko to put together the mRNA vaccine platform, has been working on a pan coronavirus vaccine for a while now. It doesn't surprise me that now that the rest of the world is working on mRNA vaccines for basically everything, someone's making strides on it this quickly. Gonna be a long while before it actually gets into anybody's arms, though.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:What the heck does “neoliberal ideology” even mean in this context? "People I don't like and think are stupid", clearly in this case.
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Stickman posted:"Granted, the vaccinated (+ boosted) will be better protected" is more accurate, unfortunately. In the sense that vaccination prevents death or really freaking close. Looking at what omicron has done to a Country like Denmark that has a 98% vaccination rate, I can only imagine what it’s going to do given it’s even more transmissible with breakthrough infections. That’s only more death and more disruption. The only positive thing I see from earlier forecasts is a recovery by April-May.
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Dec 22, 2021 04:24
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Lol, I just got a letter to the householder from the federal government with a little chart where you can write down when your family's boosters are due, "six months" after your last shot, which comes a few days after the health authorities revised the gap to five months and the same day they're saying the state booster clinics in Victoria will let you get it after four. February, here I come!
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I guess my objection to shot #4 is primarily that the whole point of this tech is that we can develop them quickly, so my 4th shot should be one specifically tailored to the currently dominant strain(s), not just another dose of the thing we whipped together two years ago. The lack of urgency around getting Omicron-specific boosters (or delta, or heck even beta) going is really obnoxious to me. Even if the wave has passed by the time you get them out you've still got immunity to something that is closer to whatever wave N+1 is than the original strain.
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DancingMachine posted:I guess my objection to shot #4 is primarily that the whole point of this tech is that we can develop them quickly, so my 4th shot should be one specifically tailored to the currently dominant strain(s), not just another dose of the thing we whipped together two years ago. The lack of urgency around getting Omicron-specific boosters (or delta, or heck even beta) going is really obnoxious to me. Even if the wave has passed by the time you get them out you've still got immunity to something that is closer to whatever wave N+1 is than the original strain. they're still producing vaccine that is primarily for people to get first shots and they're tooled up to produce that in massive quantities, so they really might as well keep that going until everyone is vaccinated before prioritizing bespoke boosters for the already vaccinated
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Tooled up? I was told that mRNA technology enabled them to pivot on a dime.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:they're still producing vaccine that is primarily for people to get first shots and they're tooled up to produce that in massive quantities, so they really might as well keep that going until everyone is vaccinated before prioritizing bespoke boosters for the already vaccinated There's nothing bespoke though, there's no value for anybody in making a vaccines for wild type at this point. Yes, you have to flush the supply of the existing and switch manufacturing over and there would be a transition where you are still giving people sub-optimal (but still useful) wild-type vaccines, but that should be as short a period as possible. If a bunch of currently unvaccinated people end up getting their first does being one that is tailored to dominant variants, that is totally fine and in fact preferable.
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Platystemon posted:Tooled up? I'm using it figuratively obviously, however any significant change in the vaccine will have to go through trials again. or they could just keep producing massive amounts of the current covid juice that's still vastly, hugely better than nothing, particularly when freshly administered. DancingMachine posted:there's no value for anybody in making a vaccines for wild type at this point. that appears to be extremely not the case though?
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