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Prima Donna tank in Smileton asking me not to use my summons because they are too big. I tell them /petsize all small. They retort by claiming they shouldn't have to be the one ~burdened~ making the adjustment and that I was being selfish  Burdened? Really? I guess I could just cast Ruin III and Tri-disaster the entire time.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Oh they released the first raid tier? Thought that wasn't coming until .1 .01, which was yesterday 
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Dec 22, 2021 15:32
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Kazy posted:The Ivalice story was awful and boring and honestly makes me hate the raids.  But also I hate the raids anyway
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Dec 22, 2021 15:37
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Oh they released the first raid tier? Thought that wasn't coming until .1 6.1 will be the first tier of the alliance raid. The normal 8-player raid came out yesterday, and the savage version will be out in a couple weeks.
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Speaking of raiding, what's the best way to do savage raids for someone who probably can't be counted on to commit to a static? (Assuming the answer isn't just "lol maybe don't") I tend to come and go from games kinda on a whim. As obsessed as I am with FFXIV now, at some point within the next month or two I'll probably go "ehh that's enough MMOs for a while" and then not play for like 8 months. So joining a static would probably be a bad idea. But I've never done anything beyond extreme trials in FFXIV and it seems fun so I'd like to give it a try. GW2 has some pretty great Discords for things like that (general raid community discords that make it easy to put together learning/training groups) but I don't know if FFXIV has anything similar. Or do people just go through PF?
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Dec 22, 2021 15:45
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Oh they released the first raid tier? Thought that wasn't coming until .1 That’s when Ultimate comes out
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Dec 22, 2021 15:49
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You can just PF entire tiers, honestly.
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Dec 22, 2021 15:49
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Harrow posted:Speaking of raiding, what's the best way to do savage raids for someone who probably can't be counted on to commit to a static? (Assuming the answer isn't just "lol maybe don't") You can do it in party finder and be successful. Personally I prefer a static since I will have a good idea of how successful we'll be on a given night (and to avoid running into people who are just insufferably toxic) but a ton of people have completed entire savage tiers with randos.
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i found party finder savage raiding to be extremely slow, at least back in eden. the people who have finished fights will use the [Duty Complete] tag, so your only hope will be slogging through practice groups that may not have seen anything of the fights in question
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Thundarr posted:You can do it in party finder and be successful. Personally I prefer a static since I will have a good idea of how successful we'll be on a given night (and to avoid running into people who are just insufferably toxic) but a ton of people have completed entire savage tiers with randos. Oh I would absolutely prefer a static, I just know I'm too likely to flake to join one. I wouldn't want to join a static and then bounce before we even finish the tier because I got the urge to play something else.
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Dec 22, 2021 15:59
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Badger of Basra posted:the nier raids were boring and yoko taro is a hack Good music, though.
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Dec 22, 2021 16:05
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bewilderment posted:People who only want the Crystal Tower raids are pathetic babies who deserve no sympathy. I get that someone else could have simply been running ADR on a job below 60 but like, regardless of how much effect it actually had, I always get annoyed when I notice someone ilvl abusing. Just play all the raids you cowards! 
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Dec 22, 2021 16:10
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I hate playing black mage but I had to get it to 90 somehow. 
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Dec 22, 2021 16:12
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Now i just need to level up a dps because everyone in my FC decided to go tank this xpac
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Dec 22, 2021 16:16
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bewilderment posted:People who only want the Crystal Tower raids are pathetic babies who deserve no sympathy. Insert name here posted:I get that someone else could have simply been running ADR on a job below 60 but like, regardless of how much effect it actually had, I always get annoyed when I notice someone ilvl abusing. Just play all the raids you cowards! This is a weird and inappropriate entitlement about other people's time and preferences
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Dec 22, 2021 16:21
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surely the queues have impro-well poo poo
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Dec 22, 2021 16:22
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Nah, screw 'em, they're intentionally forcing me into boring content. I actively dislike World of Darkness and it's the only thing I seem to get anymore.
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Dec 22, 2021 16:23
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Kazy posted:The Ivalice story was awful and boring and honestly makes me hate the raids. I started skipping cutscenes near the end and Orbonne coincidentally turned into my favorite alliance raid
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Dec 22, 2021 16:24
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isk posted:This is a weird and inappropriate entitlement about other people's time and preferences Much like when people complain about bad players or honest healers in their groups, it's one thing when your playstyle preference only affects you, and another when it starts affecting others that you're matched with (or is so widespread that it straight-up affects the probability of what raid will show up in alliance roulette).
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Dec 22, 2021 16:26
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isk posted:This is a weird and inappropriate entitlement about other people's time and preferences What no it's not. Manipulating the roulette like that is really lovely. If you don't have time/enjoy the later raids don't fuckin queue for a roulette
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Dec 22, 2021 16:27
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Regy Rusty posted:What no it's not. Manipulating the roulette like that is really lovely. If you don't have time/enjoy the later raids don't fuckin queue for a roulette counter argument: make me
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Dec 22, 2021 16:27
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I've actually gotten Void Ark a lot lately, though I did get thrown into Labyrinth yesterday. It turns out reaper has the same problem as old summoner, it's really boring if you get synced too low. Like at least you always have your debuff and movement skills, but without any of the gauge mechanics you end up in danger of falling asleep.
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Dec 22, 2021 16:28
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Harrow posted:Much like when people complain about bad players or honest healers in their groups, it's one thing when your playstyle preference only affects you, and another when it starts affecting others that you're matched with (or is so widespread that it straight-up affects the probability of what raid will show up in alliance roulette). I'd stop manipulating my ilevel (though I'm not as extreme as some people, I just block off the Nier raids) if they increased the rewards for doing longer and harder content. Same reason I don't trial roulette anymore. The rewards, in my eyes, are not equal to the difficulty and effort for many of the things the roulette might put me into.
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Dec 22, 2021 16:29
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isk posted:This is a weird and inappropriate entitlement about other people's time and preferences Syrcus tower is boring so imo its good that they get poo poo for it
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Dec 22, 2021 16:30
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Deviant posted:counter argument: make me This is a weird and inappropriate entitlement about other people's time and preferences
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Cythereal posted:I'd stop manipulating my ilevel (though I'm not as extreme as some people, I just block off the Nier raids) if they increased the rewards for doing longer and harder content. Same reason I don't trial roulette anymore. The rewards, in my eyes, are not equal to the difficulty and effort for many of the things the roulette might put me into. Also true. If getting Orbonne was like getting Praetorium, I'd be fine doing Orbonne. I mean not on black mage as I loathe over 50 black mage, but on other classes.
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No idea why they haven't split every expacs raids into their own roulette with increasing rewards for each. Would probably even make it easier for people trying to progress.
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People are gonna do what they're gonna do and that's why when I queue my second monitor is ready to go with Netflix while I sleepwalk through mechanics I've done a hundred times before.
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i think it would be appropriate to scale up the health on the labyrinth / syrcus / void ark bosses to bring them back in line with what they were like on launch, and bring clear times up to around the level of the other raids. that would make those raids more fun to play and remove the incentive for ilevel abuse. i wouldn't mind alliance roulette taking longer on average, since there was always a chance it would be one of the longer raids anyway it's only a distant memory now, but bosses like glasya labolas were really fun on release when there were mechanics to them
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Dec 22, 2021 16:32
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isk posted:This is a weird and inappropriate entitlement about other people's time and preferences It is weird that people think they're entitled to control how 23 other people spend their time, yes. e: I personally don't care about getting forced into CT that much, but just lmao at this remark when it literally applies to the roulette manipulators way more than to people expressing their opinion about being annoyed. Gruckles fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Dec 22, 2021 |
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Dec 22, 2021 16:32
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isk posted:This is a weird and inappropriate entitlement about other people's time and preferences lol the only ones imposing on other people here are the roulette riggers
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Cythereal posted:I'd stop manipulating my ilevel (though I'm not as extreme as some people, I just block off the Nier raids) if they increased the rewards for doing longer and harder content. Same reason I don't trial roulette anymore. The rewards, in my eyes, are not equal to the difficulty and effort for many of the things the roulette might put me into. I mean I’m generally in favor of increasing roulette rewards so sure Although honestly I’d rather do the Nier raids than the Ivalice ones, mechanics-wise. Maybe it’s just my brain but the last Ivalice raid is trickier for me than any of the Nier ones.
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I really don't understand the argument that Alliance Duty Roulette's rewards are too low to make non-Crystal Tower raids worth it.
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Venuz Patrol posted:i think it would be appropriate to scale up the health on the labyrinth / syrcus / void ark bosses to bring them back in line with what they were like on launch, and bring clear times up to around the level of the other raids. that would make those raids more fun to play and remove the incentive for ilevel abuse. i wouldn't mind alliance roulette taking longer on average, since there was always a chance it would be one of the longer raids anyway Conversely, if they did this I might stop running alliance raid roulettes at all. I do not like raiding in this game at all, but if the roulette can be set to something quick and easy with decent rewards, I'll do that. Harrow posted:Although honestly I’d rather do the Nier raids than the Ivalice ones, mechanics-wise. Maybe it’s just my brain but the last Ivalice raid is trickier for me than any of the Nier ones. I never unlocked the Ivalice raids in the first place.
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Just put a scaling minimum ilevel based on your level and/or what raids you have unlocked and make roulette manipulations outright impossible
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Dec 22, 2021 16:35
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Cythereal posted:Conversely, if they did this I might stop running alliance raid roulettes at all. Honestly? Good.
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Arist posted:I really don't understand the argument that Alliance Duty Roulette's rewards are too low to make non-Crystal Tower raids worth it. People don't want to try and those are the easiest to AFK through and force everyone else to do the heavy lifting for them. That's it really.
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Dec 22, 2021 16:36
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My point was more that ADR gives insane rewards no matter what you get, but that also applies
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Harrow posted:I mean I’m generally in favor of increasing roulette rewards so sure Yeah I mean I think the NieR raids were actually fun, and Ivalice was pretty crap in my eyes.
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multijoe posted:Just put a scaling minimum ilevel based on your level and/or what raids you have unlocked and make roulette manipulations outright impossible I would like this.
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