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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

peanut- posted:

Realised watching this how much he’s hidden/been sheltered from any scrutiny. Gives off the impression of someone who would crumble as soon as real pressure hit.

https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1473425462323990534?s=20

Big Ed Milliband energy

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

bessantj posted:

Bored in work today I was browsing books on Amazon and gently caress me there is a huge industry in people writing books about how "the left" has lost its way and how "wokeism" is destroying the western world. I read the blurbs and reviews and it seems most of them were written after the author spent a handful of days on twitter. Saw noting in the other direction.
Just got 'recommended' one with the description

quote:

In 💩, with full and reliable documentation, :shrek: examines the anti-life character of the 'progressive' era. While arising from an historical process, certain movements and ideologies have been deliberately constructed to take advantage of the West's social decay to create a brave new world. Some people flourish amidst decay, and among those are a global oligarchy and the dysfunctional types the former promotes in the name of 'human rights', 'social justice', and 'equality'. The main obstacles to their 'new world order' are what they call the 'primary ties': the traditional family bond, faith, homeland, culture and ethnicity. In order to eliminate these, there is a well-financed assault, using feminism, identity politics, transgenderism, population control, sexology, 'human relations training', ad infinitum. Of particular service have been the social sciences, including what is called 'Cultural Marxism'.

Turning normality on its head, what was until recently regarded as aberrant is now the 'new normal'. The final aim is to create a one-world state populated by 'transhuman', 'postgender' cybernetic drones in a scenario reminiscent of the most bizarre science-fiction film.

Think I got fash bingo there. Julius Evola just reanimated to say "tone it down a little". And yet it's presented as a normal book for concerned people, rather than with a bunch of nordic runes and skulls and (literal as well as figurative) red flags on the cover.
:hotpickle:

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:

Just got 'recommended' one with the description

In 💩, with full and reliable documentation,  examines the anti-life character of the 'progressive' era.

Darksied Is....interested in this book.

Bobstar posted:

Crossposting from the Simpsons meme thread

I never knew there was a Simpsons meme thread on SA. I think I'm going to end up losing a lot of my time to this. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

goddamnedtwisto posted:

This has the delivery and body language of a failed Blue Peter presenter audition tape.

That's a pretty good take of him, he just sounds too young (poo poo, i'm old now :corsair: ).

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Guavanaut posted:

Think I got fash bingo there. Julius Evola just reanimated to say "tone it down a little". And yet it's presented as a normal book for concerned people, rather than with a bunch of nordic runes and skulls and (literal as well as figurative) red flags on the cover.
:hotpickle:

It's just peak individualism, certain people want to live in a world where no-one ever challenges their personal truth. It's not just freedom of personal belief, it's freedom from societal constraints to think say and do whatever as long as you have the cash.

I actually think it's a more cross-cutting political problem than one would assume and is largely responsible for left factionalism. We would do well to focus on what we can agree on.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm going to put money down that one of the 'full and reliable documents' is the Protocols of Zion, not only because they need to read a better fake book, but because "the global oligarchs who are all powerful and control all media and science and arts and banks are going to destroy Christian Europe by slightly expanding sex education and voting rights" is about the same caliber of argument.

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.
Sorry it's a Glinner but..
e: Glinner-based?

https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1473290046971289604

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
I think they just see traditionalism as you get to a certain age then you get your one free hot wife automatically and then u gently caress. Everything else is window dressing around this. They just want the chance to gently caress with less effort, to the point they’ve all but destroyed western society.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Jedit posted:

To be fair, he is a better choice for PM than Boris. In the same way that Biden was a better choice for President than Trump. There are very few people who belong less in the position than either of them, but in both cases one of them is/was the incumbent.

It's hard to say whether dressing gown defendent or Boris would be better.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

but those cows are small and close whilst the bigger one is further away, which is why they appear to be the same size to an observer lacking depth perception. this analogy stinks

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Guavanaut posted:

Just got 'recommended' one with the description

And this guy's head of the Sexology Department at the Correspondence College of Tampa! :stonk:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Regarde Aduck posted:

I think they just see traditionalism as you get to a certain age then you get your one free hot wife automatically and then u gently caress. Everything else is window dressing around this. They just want the chance to gently caress with less effort, to the point they’ve all but destroyed western society.
They're going to be so pissed off when they end up in the kind of traditionalism where the biggest guy gets 20 free wives automatically and they get shackled to a plough. Of course half of them are deluded into thinking that they get to be the biggest guy, because while you were studying human rights, I studied the blade.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm not sure if this is a sign that 2022 is going to be the start of a new era of not-poo poo, or if the world is going to end in the next few weeks to stop something this awesome happening, but Lawnmower Deth are going to release a new album in January, and it's honestly the first pop-culture thing I've been excited about in more than a decade.

I used to love those guys. Watch out grandma here comes a lawnmower, gonna rip your face offffff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73aQFJ2cpWo

Metal Duck - March of the metal ducks to the ponds of hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geTZHDO8UR4


Saw LD at the Marquee years ago - they had about 3 of them playing one guitar to do 'scarface' (a song about Gary Moore)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rSK_MnDOXs

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Dec 22, 2021

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

And this guy's head of the Sexology Department at the Correspondence College of Tampa! :stonk:


You can just say "Dr Jordan Peterson" you know.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

peanut- posted:

Realised watching this how much he’s hidden/been sheltered from any scrutiny. Gives off the impression of someone who would crumble as soon as real pressure hit.

https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1473425462323990534?s=20

I never saw Dr Bashir in a command role myself.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i'm *soooorrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee* that i JUST ran OVER your PET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :holy:

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

Failed Imagineer posted:

Really some atrocious tosh on the BBC this morning about the dreaded Cancel Culture, Maureen Lipman banging on about how you can't say the word Jewish on TV these days or something. Really wishing a very probatable fate for the BBC in 2022.

Same crap online too

https://twitter.com/Atrios/status/1473577021494243331?t=zeCH5DALhz0K1pePDiEgBA&s=19
Jesus Christ, some of the beep-boop-Beeb-robot-reports-neutrally poo poo in that article:

quote:

Her comments come as more than half of Britons say they have stopped themselves from expressing political and social views for fear of being judged. A YouGov poll seen exclusively by the BBC found 57% of those asked said they censor themselves on issues including immigration and trans rights, particularly if their views are deemed at the less politically correct end of the spectrum.

YouGov questioned 1,677 people in mid November to find out their views on what's become known as "cancel culture". While only a third (35%) of those polled said they knew what cancel culture was, many more effectively said they felt cancelled from time to time. The less politically correct the views held, the more likely people were to say they feel shouted down.

According to those polled by YouGov, nearly a third (29%) of people who hold gender critical views said they always or mostly don't say what they really think when they are talking about this controversial topic. Other difficult areas where the people polled said they don't speak freely are those who believe immigration has been a bad thing for the UK (one third - 33% - of people who held that view said they keep quiet about it). A fifth of people who believe women have things as good as men in the UK feel they can't say it.
'A full third of those who subscribe to the politically incorrect belief that Jewish people are descended from lizards, rather than humans, reported self-censorship, while a quarter of those who believe in certain intrinsic differences in intellect between different racial groups felt shouted down. Liberal groups say their concerns are overblown,'

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i think the trick is to write comedy that's funny and not hateful, most people will in fact enjoy that

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

crispix posted:

i think the trick is to write comedy that's funny and not hateful, most people will in fact enjoy that

Cancel Culture in action

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

crispix posted:

i think the trick is to write comedy that's funny and not hateful, most people will in fact enjoy that

*looks up from a pile of cocaine and hastily scribbled drafts of a 20 minute "sketch" where the only joke is that Roma people are dirty thieves* Fascist!

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Dabir posted:

*looks up from a pile of cocaine and hastily scribbled drafts of a 20 minute "sketch" where the only joke is that Roma people are dirty thieves* Fascist!

If we're trying to out-Forde Forde then there's not enough weird sexual energy in this, need a female character to constantly refer to her breasts or breastfeeding.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Keir Starmer on track to oversee the second best Labour election performance in history.

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1473632933743321099

lol

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Keir Starmer on track to oversee the second best Labour election performance in history.

Oversee is the operative word here. He isn't actually going to do anything.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Zalakwe posted:

Oversee is the operative word here. He isn't actually going to do anything.

That's what the "lol" is for.

Boris and Covid are going to make him a hero who masterminded everything.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/Coldwar_Steve/status/1473674625141903376

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Keir Starmer on track to oversee the second best Labour election performance in history.

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1473632933743321099

lol

The second best Labour performance in history & they still don't win a majority?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

That's what the "lol" is for.

Boris and Covid are going to make him a hero who masterminded everything.

Yep. It's another 1997 where a bag of poo poo with a red rosette pinned on it would beat the Tories - and indeed, did (and will) - but the Labour right will take all the credit for it again.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

forkboy84 posted:

The second best Labour performance in history & they still don't win a majority?

In terms of total seats gained, yes. Because they are starting from such an extremely low point, they can net 100+ seats and still not have a majority.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

In terms of total seats gained, yes. Because they are starting from such an extremely low point, they can net 100+ seats and still not have a majority.

Oh right, 2nd best improvement, okay, that makes sense.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1473689946636570642

Peak is over!

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
starmer should call a general election now then

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


New Statesman has updated their model in such a way as to predict that wet neoliberal melts are popular, actually

Colour me shocked

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

I can't wait for Kenny to become PM and immediately spend the next 4 years attacking Jeremy Corbyn and governing like a Tory.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I'm fairly sure a hell of a lot of public support for Starmer would melt the second we're in an election cycle and he actually has to campaign and make people give a poo poo. If nothing else Blair did have some gravitas about him and could win round an audience.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm fairly sure a hell of a lot of public support for Starmer would melt the second we're in an election cycle and he actually has to campaign and make people give a poo poo. If nothing else Blair did have some gravitas about him and could win round an audience.

also he literally doesn't have any policies

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I imagine he could outnumber the tories but it would depend on how the next few years go, if/when they knife boris and who replaces him and what they do.

I think the best thing for them to do is to get rid of him and put someone with quite different affect in the role and try to rebrand the party a bit. They can certainly beat keith at his own game if they tried.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Also everyone is loving sick of Boris, and anyone who can look vaguely presentable and competent next to him is going to eat up the Anyone But Boris vote that is Starmer's only hope.

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish

Merry Christmas from Covidious Albion

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

If sir Keith was PM, who would he copy his homework from?

"I welcome the leader of the opposition's suggestions, but I would urge him to go further, by beating me in an election."

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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I genuinely don't know which is the worse option between asset stripping Tories and asset stripping Blairites who strip 10% fewer assets but also thoroughly discredit 'socialism' in the eyes of the public for the next two decades.

I do think it's very unlikely Labour wins unless Bojo completely shits the bed and the Tories fail to put up another figure who can disavow him. That said even then it's an uphill battle, Labour always has to give people a reason to vote for them (fairly!) but the Tories could probably win a solid 30% of the vote even if they legalised noncing the week before the election.

Related to this, I was only seven when Blair came to power but did Thatcher/Major era popular culture have that same welfare-safari dole-shaming thread to it that became so common in the New Labour period? It's still about of course but way less intense than it used to be. Can blame for the eradication of prole solidarity actually be laid at Labour's feet, rather than Thatcher? I'm thinking of that old speech Reeves gave back in 2015 about the party not wanting to represent the unemployed etc.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Dec 22, 2021

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