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Tbh I've always been confused and slightly terrified by people that downright seethe any time pure, distilled gameplay isn't on screen RIGHT NOW for any reason.
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Disco Pope posted:I can't see how this would be happening unless you rolled a deliberately screwy build and paid no attention. I literally just went for one of the defaults. I think the one that let's me punch things good.
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John Murdoch posted:Tbh I've always been confused and slightly terrified by people that downright seethe any time pure, distilled gameplay isn't on screen RIGHT NOW for any reason. Good game play is difficult, shoving garbage into a game to pad out the experience is not. Slay the Spire/Ratropolis are superior games to Griftland/uhh that lovely new one that I only tried the demo of Inscryption. Deathloop is a worse Dishonored. Multiplayer RTS are better than campaign not necessarily because of plot but because the computer is dumb and I'm just going to death stack them. Baba is You is superior to The Witness. ARPGS without skippable cutscenes shouldn't exist.
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Dec 23, 2021 03:41
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ARPGs shouldn't have cutscenes or stories at all probably, because they are built to appeal to the most broken brain number increasing gamers who just want their eyes to glaze over
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Dec 23, 2021 03:42
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the stories are there to attract new players and keep them busy long enough for the braimworms to settle in
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Dec 23, 2021 03:47
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Beartaco posted:I literally just went for one of the defaults. I think the one that let's me punch things good. The defaults can have poo poo body stats. One of the thought cabinet thoughts lets you regen damage for lots of really common actions but I can't remember what its called
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Caesar Saladin posted:ARPGs shouldn't have cutscenes or stories at all probably, because they are built to appeal to the most broken brain number increasing gamers who just want their eyes to glaze over Yeah exactly. The point of ARPGs to be chill low effort monster killing slot machines, well at least that's the way they all seem to be designed. I suppose they could try having a story worth telling and tell it to me once. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Dec 23, 2021 03:50
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:there's a book called MEG. they made it into a Jason Statham movie. The cover of the book has a shark and a t-rex fighting in some water. There isn't a t-rex in the book, but there is a giant megalodon shark, and a submarine fires a nuclear torpedo into it's mouth while it tries to eat them. There is a T. rex in the book it's eaten in the prologue.
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Dec 23, 2021 03:56
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Duck and Cover posted:Yeah exactly. Like that's the point of ARPGs to be chill low effort monster killing experiences. I suppose they could try having a story worth telling and tell it to me once. Buddy, your numbers right now? They're small. Tiny. Picayune. But when Im done with you you're gonna have big numbers, just massive numbers, numbers so loving big you'll need two hands to hold em. Lets get to it.
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Groovelord Neato posted:There is a T. rex in the book it's eaten in the prologue. What kinda jerk reads a prologue, I need to know what's happening NOW baby!
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Dec 23, 2021 03:58
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Playing Final Fantasy III on SNES as a child inspired me to read books. Straight up.
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Barudak posted:Buddy, your numbers right now? They're small. Tiny. Picayune. But when Im done with you you're gonna have big numbers, just massive numbers, numbers so loving big you'll need two hands to hold em. Lets get to it. Bigger numbers you say? I just want to make a cool character with neato abilities. Diablo 3 doesn't have the depth (at least when I played) while Path of Exile makes it feel like a chore.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:What kinda jerk reads a prologue, I need to know what's happening NOW baby! Foreword?! More like FAST FORWARD TO THE GOOD PARTS!!! 
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Dec 23, 2021 04:14
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diablo 3 was fun even at release because i got to kill monsters with jars of spiders and exploding frogs and poo poo but anyone who has played it a ton and keeps doing ladders or seasons or whatever the gently caress the diablo version of Play Game 4 Dopamine is called years later should be institutionalized
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Dec 23, 2021 05:08
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LOOM had a great story about a loom.
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Dec 23, 2021 05:11
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"Disco Elysium is like a book but it's not made of paper and your e-reader won't read it, so you tried to throw it across the room but realized it's probably on your computer and you don't have the body strength to do so. Finally, frustrated, you write a dismissive internet post about it."
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Dec 23, 2021 06:46
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Caesar Saladin posted:Every single video game has bad writing, and every single book is well written, I know this because I am an intelligent well read book reader who has engaged in the entire canon of Brandon Sanderson. Sorry, I know a video game goblin like you wouldn't have heard of him, hell you guys porobably haven't even heard of books. Pft, of course I know who Brandon Sanderson is, idort. He made that one awesome Fortnite skin.  
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Dec 23, 2021 07:06
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Vic posted:"Disco Elysium is like a book but it's not made of paper and your e-reader won't read it, so you tried to throw it across the room but realized it's probably on your computer and you don't have the body strength to do so. Finally, frustrated, you write a dismissive internet post about it." I'm working on a personal project converting Disco Elysium into a CYOA e-book. That or however many normal e-books I can get from the various script permutations. Haven't decided yet.
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Dec 23, 2021 07:08
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itry posted:I'm working on a personal project converting Disco Elysium into a CYOA e-book. That or however many normal e-books I can get from the various script permutations. Haven't decided yet. Good idea. Meanwhile I'll be working on Disco Elysium roguelite bullethell. Basically the same game but instead of words you shoot and dodge bullets made of said words.
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Dec 23, 2021 07:18
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Play posted:'atrocious flow', 'obstructive grammar' Maybe you just didn't get it 
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If I have an opinion about DE it's that it's sad that it got a reputation for being the churlish leftist game, because even as a churlish leftist right in the pocket for that, the game was at its best when it wore its heart on its sleeve and was more humanist in tone. But its hard to talk about that, because the lol fascist fail cop stuff is funny and memeable and the people that the game appeals to typically aren't good at understanding or expressing that things have moved them sincerely, especially when that's a video game.
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Dec 23, 2021 09:07
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Disco Pope posted:If I have an opinion about DE it's that it's sad that it got a reputation for being the churlish leftist game, because even as a churlish leftist right in the pocket for that, the game was at its best when it wore its heart on its sleeve and was more humanist in tone. But its hard to talk about that, because the lol fascist fail cop stuff is funny and memeable and the people that the game appeals to typically aren't good at understanding or expressing that things have moved them sincerely, especially when that's a video game. lol
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Dec 23, 2021 09:10
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Cormac McCarthy isnt that great of a writer idk why he gets brought up all the time as some kind of ideal to be compared to
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Dec 23, 2021 09:26
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fridge corn posted:Cormac McCarthy isnt that great of a writer idk why he gets brought up all the time as some kind of ideal to be compared to ok, im sure your sonic fanfiction will get the recognition it deserves one day
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fridge corn posted:Cormac McCarthy isnt that great of a writer idk why he gets brought up all the time as some kind of ideal to be compared to He's pretty good, but he also writes about cool poo poo (cowboys, Fallout fan-fiction) and not about boring literary stuff like marriage or being an English professor.
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the only books you're allowed to say are smart are about poo poo like russian revolutions or non fiction books about 19th century naval warfare
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Vic posted:Good idea. Meanwhile I'll be working on Disco Elysium roguelite bullethell. Basically the same game but instead of words you shoot and dodge bullets made of said words. lol, Typing of The Dead exists and it is awesome. e:totally unrelated but i just bought the original Cowboy Bebop all 26 episodes on XBox Live for 5 bucks. tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Dec 23, 2021 09:42
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Vic posted:Good idea. Meanwhile I'll be working on Disco Elysium roguelite bullethell. Basically the same game but instead of words you shoot and dodge bullets made of said words. Ah. The Extra Gameplay edition. Very good. Disco Pope posted:the people that the game appeals to typically aren't good at understanding or expressing that things have moved them sincerely, especially when that's a video game. The original thread had plenty of that though. I think the enchanced edition is a newer one and I haven't kept up with that one. tango alpha delta posted:lol, Typing of The Dead exists and it is awesome. Blu-ray edition?
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itry posted:Blu-ray edition? It's the HD version, so while not 4K, it looks good on my 4K Samsung. e:they are all the original 4:3 aspect ratio but the picture is really, really clean. brings back a lot of memories. e:holy gently caress how the hell did Netflix suck all the awesome out of this with their live action debut? tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Dec 23, 2021 09:50
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itry posted:Ah. The Extra Gameplay edition. Very good. Honestly, that's good! I've seen people turned off the game because of a perception about what it is created by some pretty vocal fans, and that's a shame. It's like when people won't try Dark Souls because of people who've created a perception that you have to be highly skilled to enjoy it. Both are good games that anyone can play if they want to!
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fridge corn posted:Cormac McCarthy isnt that great of a writer idk why he gets brought up all the time as some kind of ideal to be compared to Its the only book they've read that isn't harry potter. His books suck
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Disco Pope posted:Honestly, that's good! I've seen people turned off the game because of a perception about what it is created by some pretty vocal fans, and that's a shame. It's like when people won't try Dark Souls because of people who've created a perception that you have to be highly skilled to enjoy it. I think that stuff like this, hating things without engaging with them because there is enthusiastic hype, is a symptom of terminal internet poisoning.
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For Whom the Bell Tolls is far better writing than every video game story ever written, including, even though I really enjoy it, Disco Elysium.
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DE is praised good and unique because of how you experience it even within the medium. Comparing it to books is dumb as poo poo is my point you see. But then again reading The Road is a lot like collecting bottles in DE
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A walk through the shelves at a physical bookstore (do those still exist?) and looking at all the absolute drek is all the evidence you need that there isn’t some inherent quality that makes literature good, even compared to video games. It’s Sturgeon’s law people. Of course Call of Duty 46 and Anime RPG 72 are garbage, so is that Tom Clancy ripoff paperback with a name like “Force Warrior” or whatever.
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tango alpha delta posted:e:holy gently caress how the hell did Netflix suck all the awesome out of this with their live action debut?  The live action has no flow to it. Or any sincerity. I only bothered watching a couple of episodes. galagazombie posted:A walk through the shelves at a physical bookstore (do those still exist?) and looking at all the absolute drek is all the evidence you need that there isn’t some inherent quality that makes literature good, even compared to video games. It’s Sturgeon’s law people. Of course Call of Duty 46 and Anime RPG 72 are garbage, so is that Tom Clancy ripoff paperback with a name like “Force Warrior” or whatever. The printing press was a mistake.
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galagazombie posted:A walk through the shelves at a physical bookstore (do those still exist?) and looking at all the absolute drek is all the evidence you need that there isn’t some inherent quality that makes literature good, even compared to video games. It’s Sturgeon’s law people. Of course Call of Duty 46 and Anime RPG 72 are garbage, so is that Tom Clancy ripoff paperback with a name like “Force Warrior” or whatever. Sturgeon's Law states" "95% of everything is crap, except for video games, in which case 100% are crap"
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I'll just have Homer recite Disco Elysium to me.
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Caesar Saladin posted:the only books you're allowed to say are smart are about poo poo like russian revolutions or non fiction books about 19th century naval warfare Also french books that are very funny all the way through then leave you feeling profoundly sad. Also I agree that I don't like Cormac McCarthy's style, and it's pretentious to have some kind of agenda against punctuation. Anyway he did write good stuff in spite of that
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John Murdoch posted:I'll just have Homer recite Disco Elysium to me. Not sure Dan Castenella fits the tone, to be honest.
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