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https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1474080564105854981 Verdict for this trial will be read at 1:30 PM CST. For those unfamiliar, this is the ex-police officer who killed Daunte Wright in Brooklyn Center (MN) last year during a traffic stop. TBH, I'm not optimistic about this...
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The same people that demonized blue collar labor as jobs for poors and sent them overseas are the same people that tell you that the only useful education and good jobs are in technology or engineering. I don't trust them. I'd rather do my undergrad in English or studio art again a hundred million times over and just settle with being a postal worker or some kind of government clerk than be a computer toucher.
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Dec 23, 2021 20:11
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Herstory Begins Now posted:E: \/ yeah that's what apprentices are for Yeah I love having the apprentices when we can get some. They're in pretty high demand. I just try to see how the tiniest woman and the beefiest muscle guy do a given job because they'll usually do stuff smart/right while us average guys are heaving with our backs like morons.
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Biden's sitdown interview with ABC News is out. Nothing too exciting. The only "major" thing was that he finally endorsed getting rid of the filibuster, but that doesn't really materially change the situation on its own. The highlights: - Regrets not moving on free home testing kits two months ago. - No military action if Russia invades Ukraine, but they have already partnered with the E.U. and other countries to "swiftly" implement "very strong economic penalties" if they invade. No specifics. - Finally endorsed ending the filibuster. - Thinks there is a way forward on BBB before January 15th. Plan is basically:  and hope something happens.- Considering requiring vaccinations for domestic flights. - Will run for re-election unless something happens in the next 3 years that makes him medically unable to. - Thinks "accountability is necessary" for January 6th and people responsible should be held accountable, even people in the previous administration, but DOJ will be handling and he will not make it political by interfering. - Manchin is back having "productive" talks about BBB. He said the large public backlash, party backlash, and Goldman Sachs/Economic analysts saying that not passing BBB would hurt economy in 2022 had an impact on him. - Not willing to jettison child tax credit, but flexible on other options. Thinks he will get "a significant amount of what we need to get done" in final bill. - Changing the definition of "fully vaccinated" to include booster shots likely coming. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Dec 23, 2021 20:18
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Just do what I did and join the Navy for six years, then work a well-paying but horrible job for three years, then get a decent job with great work-life balance and more reporting requirements than actual work involved. I only had to be constantly poo poo on for most of a decade and get sleep apnea to get here. But I do own a house in a good school district, AKA a rich people place despite being born and growing up poor. We're like the Beverly Hillbillies.
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Dec 23, 2021 20:26
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https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1474062753010786312 - Guys, you just need to hold-out until the mid-terms.
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Dante80 posted:https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1474062753010786312 For Trump, even being under investigation at all is too much for his ego, especially where the election is concerned.
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Kalit posted:https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1474080564105854981 Guilty on all counts
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Dec 23, 2021 20:33
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Kalit posted:https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1474080564105854981 Found guilty on both counts, I'm glad my pessimism was wrong
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Dec 23, 2021 20:34
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Kalit posted:Found guilty on both counts, I'm glad my pessimism was wrong gently caress yeah, she's guilty! Just a note for you and others posting tweets - the headline of the linked story shown in the tweet actually changed between the time you first posted it and now. I've never noticed that before, but it's incredibly obnoxious on Twitter's part to allow that to even happen.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:- No military action if Russia invades Ukraine, but they have already partnered with the E.U. and other countries to "swiftly" implement "very strong economic penalties" if they invade. No specifics. A bit disappointing, Biden should've reserved the US's right to a flexible response including military action; by maintaining an ambiguous posture it gives the US more leeway in how to respond to Russia. Now its basically given the greenlight. e: vv camoseven posted:If Russia invaded Ukraine that's their business and the US has no reason to be there on either side If Germany invades Poland that's their business and the Allies had no reason to be there on either side. Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Dec 23, 2021 20:54
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Raenir Salazar posted:A bit disappointing, Biden should've reserved the US's right to a flexible response including military action; by maintaining an ambiguous posture it gives the US more leeway in how to respond to Russia. Now its basically given the greenlight. If Russia invaded Ukraine that's their business and the US has no reason to be there on either side
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Dec 23, 2021 20:57
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Two nuclear states cannot go to war even slightly
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Dec 23, 2021 21:02
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camoseven posted:If Russia invaded Ukraine that's their business and the US has no reason to be there on either side Is this the best take of this situation you have?
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Dec 23, 2021 21:02
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Russia is trying to reassert its regional hegemony. The US just got out of another forever war, the last thing you want to do is get directly into a shooting war with a nuclear armed power. Morally of course we want to defend Ukraine’s independence. But in practice there’s nothing to gain from being involved in that fight. Ukraine was a de facto Russian puppet until the maidan movement anyway. Nobody wants to die for them except Ukrainian exiles. This is no different than the battles Russia fought in Georgia to bring them into line. The former Russian Empire/ Soviet Union is just trying to reassert its former territorial holdings.
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Dec 23, 2021 21:09
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parasyte posted:They can't address it that way. I mean aside from the current SCOTUS makeup, Schenck is no longer even good law and neither are the clear and present danger or bad tendency tests used in it. The current standard is imminent lawless action, which is that speech is only not protected if it is both inciting imminent lawless action, and likely to succeed. Thanks for the clarification, even if I don't like the implications. I guess we just have to make the truth more believable than the lies...
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CommieGIR posted:Is this the best take of this situation you have? I only post in good faith in this thread.
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Dec 23, 2021 21:11
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haveblue posted:Two nuclear states cannot go to war even slightly The US has definitely lost its nuclear edge, the Russian investment in hypersonic, orbital, and low-altitude nuclear systems mean that they could probably missile-defense their way out of a strike from our aging ballistic missiles while laying waste to an unprepared USA with their next-gen systems.
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haveblue posted:Two nuclear states cannot go to war even slightly Pakistan & India and China & Russia and USA and Russia in Korea I guess are all outliers? As long as the US stays on the Ukrainian side of the border and doesn't do military operations like cruise missile strikes on strategic infrastructure inside Russian territory proper that would "threaten the stability of the regime" there's no reason to suppose Russia would resort to nuclear weapons first for Ukraine. The US has a large number of flexible options that wouldn't escalate to nuclear war. Wang Commander posted:The US has definitely lost its nuclear edge, the Russian investment in hypersonic, orbital, and low-altitude nuclear systems mean that they could probably missile-defense their way out of a strike from our aging ballistic missiles while laying waste to an unprepared USA with their next-gen systems. This isn't even remotely true. Russia has *one* ABM system around Moscow and it wouldn't work against 90% of the platforms the US has available.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I think where that actually creates an issue for reform is that you have a lot of people who correctly have a vague idea that things are bad, but the majority are also at least somewhat happy with their current situation. So, when someone comes in and says they want to bus children for example, you have people who may say the system needs to be fixed or correctly identify it's broken, but are also comfortable in their own place in the system. And I'd argue that makes it tricky for them to be agents of change. You make a fair point, so I should be more specific. I'm encouraged because this isn't a group accepting the just world fallacy in a way that other cohorts have. These are not people looking around and going "I'm doing fine, it can't be that bad." With many attitudes, we might've expected some degree of regression there, given that Zoomers weren't in the workforce during the recession, are more likely to get through highschool and be enrolled in college than millennials, and other factors that can play into someone's material conditions. We had good reason to expect them to have a rosier economic outlook than millennials, but they're even more likely than millennials to mistrust leaving things to businesses and individuals vs government action, or to believe that systemic barriers like racism exist and are a problem. So while you're right, I'd say that's a better problem to have than if the kids were nodding along when told "America's already pretty great." To the extent Millennials shifted left due to the influence of economic collapse as they were entering the workforce, that seems to be sticking. e: covid is obviously a heck of an asterisk here when talking about the economy gen Z seen, but you can find those attitudes in polling from the Before Times as well and they don't seem to have shifted. e2: Kraftwerk posted:Gen Z thinks millennials are dumb for going into debt to go to college in the first place. They figured they could skip college and go straight into trading crypto/NFTs and running various online businesses to beat the system without racking up debts. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:A bit disappointing, Biden should've reserved the US's right to a flexible response including military action; by maintaining an ambiguous posture it gives the US more leeway in how to respond to Russia. Now its basically given the greenlight. Probably a better analogy somewhere considering the ideological makeup of a lot of the anti-Russia factions and some of our allies there
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Wang Commander posted:The US has definitely lost its nuclear edge, the Russian investment in hypersonic, orbital, and low-altitude nuclear systems mean that they could probably missile-defense their way out of a strike from our aging ballistic missiles while laying waste to an unprepared USA with their next-gen systems. It is virtually guaranteed that the United States possesses equivalents to any defensive system Russia has announced, and beyond.
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eXXon posted:I'm trying to imagine how Republicans would spin a Canadian-born (almost forgot to renounce his citizenship whoopsee), Princeton and Harvard-educated Texan candidate if he were a Democrat. I would like to note that part of the renunciation process is writing a short essay about why you don't want to be a Canadian anymore. I would very much like to read Ted's essay.
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The notion that you can do anything to stop an ICBM-based nuclear attack is pure fantasy and grift. Like even the anti-carrier ones being developed are probably just too fast to stop and in that case we know both their intended purpose/likely payload and their flight path/destination. Like 50 of them all coming and designed to scatter warheads when close? No way. What I'm worried about is when we reach the point where people in charge of making calls start believing the advertising and my happy rear end gets nuked because President Musk's HyperDome targeted pedestrians and homeless people instead of the missiles
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I would like to note that part of the renunciation process is writing a short essay about why you don't want to be a Canadian anymore. I would very much like to read Ted's essay.
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Wang Commander posted:The US has definitely lost its nuclear edge, the Russian investment in hypersonic, orbital, and low-altitude nuclear systems mean that they could probably missile-defense their way out of a strike from our aging ballistic missiles while laying waste to an unprepared USA with their next-gen systems. Yeah that's not how Mutually Assured Destruction works, and no Russia doesn't have enough of any of that to negate a counterstrike.
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah that's not how Mutually Assured Destruction works, and no Russia doesn't have enough of any of that to negate a counterstrike. Everyone is losing their mind over FOBS and hypersonics, there has to be a reason. If ballistic missile MAD still held like it did in the Cold War better offensive capabilities would be irrelevant in the face of a sub-based retaliation, for this to matter we must have reached a point where ballistic missile defense is a lot more robust than anyone lets on.
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Wang Commander posted:The US has definitely lost its nuclear edge, the Russian investment in hypersonic, orbital, and low-altitude nuclear systems mean that they could probably missile-defense their way out of a strike from our aging ballistic missiles while laying waste to an unprepared USA with their next-gen systems. The bolded part is just totally wrong. The U.S. could easily overwhelm Russia's ABMs with a second strike. The Tsirkon missile exists as a prestige issue to appeal to domestic audiences, as well as a "gently caress you" to the U.S. for withdrawing from the ABM Treaty, not as something that is actually intended to be used in any strategic sense. Raenir Salazar posted:A bit disappointing, Biden should've reserved the US's right to a flexible response including military action; by maintaining an ambiguous posture it gives the US more leeway in how to respond to Russia. Now its basically given the greenlight. The U.S. taking the stance you advocate here would be extremely foolish. There's no political will to take military action against Russia over Ukraine. We would back down, just as we did after Obama drew his "red line" against Assad in Syria. e: Wang Commander posted:Everyone is losing their mind over FOBS and hypersonics, there has to be a reason. Yes - it's profitable. The MIC makes a shitton of money by scaring decisionmakers and voters into thinking we need a new arms race or else we're all going to die. That doesn't make it true.
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Wang Commander posted:Everyone is losing their mind over FOBS and hypersonics, there has to be a reason. If ballistic missile MAD still held like it did in the Cold War better offensive capabilities would be irrelevant in the face of a sub-based retaliation, for this to matter we must have reached a point where ballistic missile defense is a lot more robust than anyone lets on. It almost certainly is irrelevant but unfortunately the Lathe of Heaven in regards to US spending and priorities is held in trust between insane chuds, lobbyists, and the dumbest of right wing political cartoonists The nuke sub fleet is about the only part of the military that isn't wholly dedicated to taking over and securing markets for private capital
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Wang Commander posted:Everyone is losing their mind over FOBS and hypersonics, there has to be a reason. If ballistic missile MAD still held like it did in the Cold War better offensive capabilities would be irrelevant in the face of a sub-based retaliation, for this to matter we must have reached a point where ballistic missile defense is a lot more robust than anyone lets on. I assume that's just a military industrial complex thing. Any nuclear power really letting them fly is going to be an apocalypse scenario. At this point any technology improvements are to make jobs and line pockets and freaking out about what the enemy has is a great way to get money to make bigger weapons even if they make no real difference.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden's sitdown interview with ABC News is out. "I support making an exception of voting rights for the filibuster." https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1474052168114229265 Did he say something in another part of the interview about getting rid of the filibuster entirely, or just for the voting-rights bill? Because you've framed it as the former when the excerpt sounds as if it's the latter. Do you have a link to a transcript, or a clip in which he says he's in favor of "getting rid of the filibuster" altogether?
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Dec 23, 2021 21:44
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Willa Rogers posted:"I support making an exception of voting rights for the filibuster." Nah, that was basically it. He said, "I support changing the senate rules to accommodate major pieces of legislation without requiring 60 votes," said some things are too important to leave unresolved and voting rights was one (didn't specify any others), and "If the only thing standing between getting voting rights legislation passed and not getting it passed is the filibuster, I support making an exception on voting rights for the filibuster." Plus, some of the typical "politician evolving" lines of how he'll have more to say and things changed, so he wasn't really wrong before, etc. None of it really matters, though. Manchin and Sinema's objections to getting rid of the filibuster weren't because they were waiting for permission.
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Raenir Salazar posted:If Germany invades Poland that's their business and the Allies had no reason to be there on either side. Wild comparison considering who's fighting in ukraine
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Raenir Salazar posted:If Germany invades Poland that's their business and the Allies had no reason to be there on either side. CommieGIR posted:Is this the best take of this situation you have?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Nah, that was basically it. He said, "I support changing the senate rules to accommodate major pieces of legislation without requiring 60 votes," said some things are too important to leave unresolved and voting rights was one (didn't specify any others), and "If the only thing standing between getting voting rights legislation passed and not getting it passed is the filibuster, I support making an exception on voting rights for the filibuster." Yeah, I was thrown by your framing of his "finally endorsed ending the filibuster" as somehow newsworthy when he's on the record as having said he supports ending the filibuster for a voting-rights bill as of over two months ago. (A number of liberal outlets are also proclaiming this non-news as newsworthy, for some reason--although not framing it as you did as getting rid of the filibuster altogether.) eta: lol, he's been claiming this since early September. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Willa Rogers posted:Yeah, I was thrown by your framing of his "finally endorsed ending the filibuster" as somehow newsworthy when he's on the record as having said he supports ending the filibuster for a voting-rights bill as of over two months ago. The only thing that is new is that he said "I support changing the senate rules to accommodate major pieces of legislation without requiring 60 votes," and the stuff about how he'll have more to say later, it used to be cool, but it's being abused now, etc. He has to define what "major pieces of legislation" are, but it seems pretty clear he's nudging further on the "politician evolving" transition from "support filibuster" to "support unspecified reforms" to "support talking filibuster" to "support carve out for voting rights" to "support changing the senate rules to accommodate major pieces of legislation without requiring 60 votes." Technically, he only said he would "entertain the idea" of a carveout "if necessary" before. So, explicitly saying they need to is slightly different. Again, none of this matters unless Manchin + Sinema change their minds and none of King, Leahy, Sanders, Feinstein, Coons, or Warner decide to take up the filibuster torch.
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Willa Rogers posted:Yeah, I was thrown by your framing of his "finally endorsed ending the filibuster" as somehow newsworthy when he's on the record as having said he supports ending the filibuster for a voting-rights bill as of over two months ago. I dunno if this really makes a difference, but there's parsing here that could be news: The Hill (and Leon), at least, is reporting the line after the "Whatever it takes" exchange as "Change the senate rules to accommodate major pieces of legislation without requiring sixty votes." But I've listened to it a few times and I find it just as easy to parse the clip as being "Change the Senate rules to accommodate [a] major piece of legislation without requiring sixty votes." The carve out language first came from the reporter. The former would be endorsing pretty much the total end of the filibuster if it means getting the voting rights bill. I'm not aware of Biden going that far before. The latter could mean still doing the hedging and maybe-we-keep-the-filibuster-a-little that was Biden's previous position, as per those links.
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Yeah, he was also kinda mush-mouthed when he said what I heard as "I support making an exception of voting rights for the filibuster," interpreted by the tweet I linked as "I support making an exception on voting rights for the filibuster." President Pop-Pop has a hard time enunciating occasionally. 
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Wang Commander posted:The US has definitely lost its nuclear edge, the Russian investment in hypersonic, orbital, and low-altitude nuclear systems mean that they could probably missile-defense their way out of a strike from our aging ballistic missiles while laying waste to an unprepared USA with their next-gen systems. lol this is that thing where you get so mad at the US that you start believing Russian propaganda The US is super awful evil empire fascist state, but also our absurd military spend gives us a huge tech edge on basically everyone, even if you figure in grift and pointless pet project like planes that melt in mild rain Russia has a very large military but a lot of the equipment is aging.
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Jaxyon posted:The US is super awful evil empire fascist state We do many bad things but we aren’t a fascist state. We potentially may become one though and lol if you think our capitalist empire is bad now.
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