|
she shat on no one. if anything, the making GBS threads happened in reloaded and revolutions.
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 21:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 01:59 |
|
|
like, the io stuff was a earnest attempt at advancing the world building the characters evolved too the analyst is what happened after the architect kept being in charge, kept his promise and there was a civil war as a result its not some parody, it has meta elements to it, but its a sequel
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 21:34
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/NotABigJerk/status/1474012444716638208 https://twitter.com/JaneOst_/status/1473770704629911556
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 21:34
|
|
|
I watched it, I did think it was a bit tacky to poo poo on WB for the first half of the movie but in retrospect it's the better part of the movie. I'm not sure why i found this much yelling toward the fourth wall more charming than Marvel dialogue. I still think this movie was mostly just decent. The action felt kinda uninspired and yeah I think it hit 'grating' when it was just kind of bad fighting while merovingian talked about how bad it was. It is definitely the matrix of the post-subtlety era.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 21:43
|
|
|
Fucker posted:she shat on no one. if anything, the making GBS threads happened in reloaded and revolutions. 2 amd 3 were earnest attempts to advance and better the story. The fact that they were failures doesn't make the first sentence false. This movie wanted to have it both ways, and succeeded at neither
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 21:45
|
|
|
Saw it yesterday and after sleeping on it I'm convinced it is brilliant. Likely will hold up well to multiple viewings to unpack. Just amazing to have everyone think the movie is about some philosophical bullshit but it's actually just a love story. Best zombie movie ever.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 21:55
|
|
|
checkplease posted:Some of the behind the scenes stuff for original matrix showed how they trained those fights for months to get all of the choreography. I think Lana stylistically wanted the fights to look different (while being a call back to contrast with), but I wonder if it was also difficult to get all the actors to train for that long again. Well whatever she was going for in this one, it looked like poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 21:57
|
|
|
bugs has a tattoo of a bunny on her arm in a movie produced by WB this movie was great.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:00
|
|
|
too much discussion about things other than wikipissanshit the pinnacle of the series
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:00
|
|
|
I was rewatching it and I have no idea how people can say that Keanu can't act. His complete despair during the first act, his disassociation, it's all 
lunar detritus fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Dec 23, 2021 |
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:04
|
|
|
Too Many Birds posted:bugs has a tattoo of a bunny on her arm in a movie produced by WB I don't think anyone has mentioned yet that Bugs literally says "what's up doc" when Neo is waking up ram dass in hell posted:too much discussion about things other than wikipissanshit the pinnacle of the series I went for "the theater experience" and the majority of this was inaudible  Also during the scene where a character is pointing out silence and talking about how good it is there was yelling bleeding over from the next theater lol VROOM VROOM fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Dec 23, 2021 |
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:07
|
|
|
I spent the entire movie wondering if this was a "real" movie, or if it was some sort of elaborate prank. By the end, I still hadn't decided which I believe. Despite that, or maybe because of that, I enjoyed it. For years I've wondered if there is some sort of standing WB studio mandate to mention other Warner Media properties in any given project as cross promotion, so that audiences are always getting reminders about who owns the Looney Tunes, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Scooby Doo, Batman, etc. And in this case, I wonder if that mandate was deservedly twisted into the "Warner Media is our parent company and demands a Matrix 4" scene, or if that was just going to happen anyway. Then we meet Bugs, "Like the Bunny", who does at one point say, "What's up, Doc?" So, I suppose they played it both ways? Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Dec 23, 2021 |
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:14
|
|
|
The entire film reminds me in a way of the ending of Path of Neo where the Sisters come out onscreen, explain the themes of the story and why it ends the way it does, and then goes "but we know that would suck as a final boss" so you fight a giant ubersmith and then get a cheesy happy ending where "we are the Champions" plays, just even more unsubtle
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:14
|
|
|
GD_American posted:2 amd 3 were earnest attempts to advance and better the story. The fact that they were failures doesn't make the first sentence false. pretty incredible that the movie that is explicitly meta ab not wanting to be made still had a plot and worldbuilding continuation for the series more well thought out and well executed than reloaded and revolutions, the supposed actual earnest attempts 
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:19
|
|
|
Fucker posted:more well thought out lol no quote:and well executed lol hell no. There were some definite bright spots such as the synthients and I/O, but it was still nothing more than half a (bad) movie grafted onto Lana's attempt to work out her personal issues while bitchily snarking about WB
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:29
|
|
|
GD_American posted:This movie wanted to have it both ways, and succeeded at neither It half-succeeded at both making it 1 full success
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:31
|
|
|
Remember when they introduce a robot character side kick right out of transformers 2? What the gently caress lmao
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:31
|
|
|
lunar detritus posted:I was rewatching it and I have no idea how people can say that Keanu can't act. His complete despair during the first act, his disassociation, it's all Yeah I think Keanu got a lot more to do with his acting in this one compared to the original films. It was fun seeing all his various emotions this time.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:32
|
|
|
GD_American posted:lol no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3IHD80mK2k&t=8s GD_American posted:lol hell no. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3IHD80mK2k&t=8s
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:32
|
|
|
all of the exposition on io + the analyst using neo and trinity as a power source after he took over >>>>> the architects "due to mathematical errors theres multiple ones, one every new reset, and each one has a choice i give them, and the choice is to reset everything again or destroy our whole programming that kills all of our crops"  bullshit
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:36
|
|
|
Nuts and Gum posted:Remember when they introduce a robot character side kick right out of transformers 2? What the gently caress lmao I chuckled, but gently caress it. If she wanted to gloss over the "now we have machine partners too" with about 45 seconds of screentime, might as well go for big air 
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:36
|
|
|
movie owned. action scenes were the weakest part of the movie by far, but i also think wachowski wouldn't have included them if she was able to 100% make the movie she wanted to make
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:38
|
|
|
Fucker posted:all of the exposition on io + the analyst using neo and trinity as a power source after he took over >>>>> the architects "due to mathematical errors theres multiple ones, one every new reset, and each one has a choice i give them, and the choice is to reset everything again or destroy our whole programming that kills all of our crops" "Trinity is the most important character in this movie." (That's why she's barely in the first half, little more than a damsel in distress in the 2nd half, then has a completely unearned awakening then 10 minutes of poorly choreographed superheroism) This whole movie was 
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:40
|
|
|
Fucker posted:like, the io stuff was a earnest attempt at advancing the world building Agreed its a weird take to say Lana shat all over the matrix movies. This is one of the most optimistic returns to older properties around. She may not have wanted to make a sequel initially, but there is no spite to the characters here: Neo and Trinity get a happy ending this time where they get to live and create worlds together. Humans + programs + machines are all living together in one city as per the promise of the revolutions. Tati comes back and seems to be doing well. The matrix still exists yeah, but that was always going to be the case. There were always going to be those who chose to stay inside.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:42
|
|
|
VagueRant posted:What shot is this because I literally can't think of one? Trinity floating in the sky
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:47
|
|
|
I liked how IO seemed like a callback to Zero OneFucker posted:ok, but the choreography is mediocre and the editing is outright poorly done. thats just bad. it has nothing to do w/ expectations. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:48
|
|
|
hey movies win oscars with editing like that.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 22:49
|
|
|
Danger posted:Oh no! Not waste of franchise assets! It dawned on me at some point that the JJ Abrams Star Trek films had a target audience that wasn't the general public, or newcomers to trek, as one might've expected. I think the real primary audience is people who have seen some Star Trek and who hated all of it, but who would be down for watching new Star Trek if it did enough things to piss old fans off. I think there's a new type of reactionary meta fan every large enough franchise collects a decent amount of over time. The Last Jedi is the Star Wars equivalent.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:00
|
|
|
Robot Style posted:I know why they went with movie footage, but it would have been really funny to see the Matrix game projection looking like something out of Deus Ex. That would have been incredible.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:01
|
|
|
So about the neo + trinity powered matrix. The analyst is basically the modern algorithm that calculates what people like and what is best to show them to get maximum retention (max power generation). There's definitely an aspect of neo + trinity powering via nostalgia. But there is also the whole they need not be too close together, but not too far away either. So its really a matrix of trying to be connected, but never getting there. Its social media, twitch streams, zoom, and a culture likes. Everyone is trying to be more connected, but without the direct human interaction. And if the direct in person interaction would occur, then such social media aspects may not be needed anymore and thus a collapse in the matrix/algorithm economy. Its not subtle of course, but I thought it was a nice more modern look for the matrix.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:04
|
|
|
I can't tell if people saying this movie was good is satire? I enjoyed all of the trilogy movies but this was a joke? I get if you feel likes it's a chore to make a 4th movie but just don't make the movie... - It was filmed by high school students I guess - I have no idea what happened in the fight scenes - the plot made me cringe the entire way through, if it was supposed to be satirical it should still make some sense. - Neo doesn't have superpowers, he knows the matrix is fake that was the entire point of the first three movies, it shouldn't wear him out to stop fake bullets. - the matrix was supposed to be cool, this was the opposite of cool.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:12
|
|
|
Butternubs posted:I can't tell if people saying this movie was good is satire? it was great. sorry about your brain.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:15
|
|
|
Everybody in the Resistance knows the Matrix is fake but they don't all get super-superpowers.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:15
|
|
|
checkplease posted:So about the neo + trinity powered matrix. I think it kinda got subsumed by coming off as random lame zombie attack but the swarm thing was one of the biggest parts of the movie. Theme wise. Like in the first movie the biggest threat was some sort of organized quasi-government G man coming to shoot you. In this the biggest enemy was the mob of normal people acting mindlessly. Like, agents still exist, but the thing coming after you for breaking social norms isn't just the law anymore, it's your neighbor. (which was true before with agents taking over bodies, but is true x1000 now when it's just 'society' itself attacking en mass
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:19
|
|
|
VROOM VROOM posted:Everybody in the Resistance knows the Matrix is fake but they don't all get super-superpowers. Neo *really* knows. Or sees the code, my point is, he's not just got a bullet shield, he can change the entire matrix at will. Movie was on par with Jupiter ascending.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:20
|
|
|
Butternubs posted:I can't tell if people saying this movie was good is satire? art! films! books! they all used to be better! now it's beepbooboobooboo wikishit and piss, zucker gently caress face, we had class!
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:23
|
|
|
Butternubs posted:I can't tell if people saying this movie was good is satire?
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:24
|
|
|
Vitamin P posted:That would have been incredible. https://youtu.be/QF67tmqA-q0 I wonder if demaking the original Matrix scenes in UE1 would have even been enough to wake up the critics entirely missing the point of them. It’s not like the movie was being subtle about it and yet I read multiple reviews claiming the first third of the movie was blatant nostalgia bait.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:24
|
|
|
ram dass in hell posted:it was great. sorry about your brain. There is actually something interesting about what was cool in 1999 becoming a bunch of obnoxious tech bros who say 'BT dubs' and 'O M G' out loud and calling that out as an even more miserable dystopia than black leather and Rob Zombie but that just means the guy who thought it was 1/3 good movie and 2/3 slog is essentially correct
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 01:59 |
|
|
Butternubs posted:Neo *really* knows. Or sees the code, my point is, he's not just got a bullet shield, he can change the entire matrix at will. That's why he had zero of his cool demeanor from matrix 2. Because he can change the matrix at will, he chooses to be a boring old man
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2021 23:28
|
|
