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Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
My threenager reports that she is "too sad" to flush the toilet.

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fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster
everyone ready for national school shooting day today??

viral TikTok poo poo is really loving things up

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


My wife's school was in lockdown two weeks ago thanks to idiot kids with an airsoft rifle. This latest round of stupidity was in her inbox this morning.


Can't imagine why people aren't sticking with teaching with that bullshit, covid breading ground, and now becoming the latest culture war battlefield

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'

fosborb posted:

everyone ready for national school shooting day today??

viral TikTok poo poo is really loving things up

say what now?

tima
Mar 1, 2001

No longer a newbie

camoseven posted:

say what now?

https://people.com/human-interest/schools-taking-precautions-over-tiktok-violence-warning-despite-no-credible-threats/?amp=true

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

camoseven posted:

say what now?

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'
lmao the internet was such a mistake

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

camoseven posted:

lmao the internet was such a mistake

love how all the heinous mtoherfuckers were 100% right about why the internet would be bad, except that they were the ones who were going to fall for all the poo poo

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster
I did not, in fact, talk with my 5 year old about the appropriate use of social media

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

brugroffil posted:


Can't imagine why people aren't sticking with teaching with that bullshit, covid breading ground, and now becoming the latest culture war battlefield

That's the point

Leroy Diplowski
Aug 25, 2005

The Candyman Can :science:

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Anyone have kids on discord? My 10yr old is on a server with a bunch of older kids (11-13) from the neighborhood and they are decent kids for the most part but occasionally they start making kill urself jokes or posting some borderline disturbing memes. I currently monitor his account but only discuss the content if my son brings it up (he knows I monitor). I know that I'm not gonna be spying on his posting forever tho.

Has anyone else had the experience of transitioning from supervised to unsupervised social media and chat use. I don't think we're quite ready but it's gotta happen at some point v

I suppose I am getting to the point where I'm realizing that my kids will soon be exposed to the whole internet thing.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
no but that sounds terrifying thanks

right now our biggest internet problem is my older son wakes up early and finds the iPad so he can watch YouTube videos.

I know this because yesterday he kept calling everything "epic" and I said "please stop you sound like your lame as hell grandfather when you say that."

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster
remote school was the first time we experienced unmoderated chat with our now 10 year old. I think you are very very right to let him know you are monitoring now, and you should be up front about when and more importantly why you stop monitoring.

it may help to consider that he has unmoderated chat all the time already, if he's in person at school. recess. but similar to the neighborhood discord, there are very real constraints there because you still have to deal with everyone in person, etc.

personally, I would pull back monitoring on the neighborhood discord before letting them hit the whole internet where there is little social accountability. without guidance there, we warp back around to thinking TikTok challenges, with extremely real potential consequences, are just like telling someone to kill themselves on the discord

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

I'm here to put my foot down and say that Elmo's version of the Letter of the Day song is vastly superior to Abby's

Also, Rudy loving sucks, he doesn't sound like a child monster, he just sounds like a dumbass

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

Good soup! posted:

I'm here to put my foot down and say that Elmo's version of the Letter of the Day song is vastly superior to Abby's

Also, Rudy loving sucks, he doesn't sound like a child monster, he just sounds like a dumbass

100% but it’s gotta be the one with the marching band and glitz, not the black background one. I don’t really like any of the number of the days, cookie monsters is ok I guess.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
I'm running out of ideas for books to read my kid that he won't hate.

Are there any good short sci fi collections that will keep the attention of a 7 year old?

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




it’s not sci fi but I had good luck with the phantom tollbooth

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
i like how I got all this info about spotting early and mid feeding cues and the babby says gently caress that and goes from zero to Red, Mad, And Nude about not being fed this instant.

also i feel like ive survived something every night cluster feed where my wife and i are trying to figure out how to get enough sleep

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




rocking recliner like a lazy boy
more milk
possibly supplementing if breastfeeding

that didn’t go away for us until he was eating solids. banana was a godsend.

then he still got up at 4:30 until he was five.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




if you have a family history of learning differences, autism spectrum, or gifted, yeah lol no sleep for you for a couple years. that’s a thing too.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
yeah ive been doing the formula supplements as needed to get my wife some sleep. also had to realize i wasn't doing her a favour by letting her skip a feed because that affects her milk supply, so we've worked on that

breastfeeding man, it's complicated. when it goes smoothly im sure it's amazing but it's complicated otherwise

on the upside i can now disassemble, clean, and reassemble a breast pump one handed in the dark like some kind of Dad Operator

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Are the Boxcar Children problematic? I remember thinking the books were cool as a kid but almost every other piece of old kids media I've found has been hosed up.

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

Dreylad posted:

yeah ive been doing the formula supplements as needed to get my wife some sleep. also had to realize i wasn't doing her a favour by letting her skip a feed because that affects her milk supply, so we've worked on that

breastfeeding man, it's complicated. when it goes smoothly im sure it's amazing but it's complicated otherwise

on the upside i can now disassemble, clean, and reassemble a breast pump one handed in the dark like some kind of Dad Operator

my wife is an incredible trooper, and it kinda felt like there was no way around night feeds, continual pumping and just general sleep-deprived misery if you are committed to breast feeding. you can try to do the best you can regarding keeping bottles clean and ready to go, cooking and helping out in other ways.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
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is all I crave

Dreylad posted:

yeah ive been doing the formula supplements as needed to get my wife some sleep. also had to realize i wasn't doing her a favour by letting her skip a feed because that affects her milk supply, so we've worked on that

breastfeeding man, it's complicated. when it goes smoothly im sure it's amazing but it's complicated otherwise

on the upside i can now disassemble, clean, and reassemble a breast pump one handed in the dark like some kind of Dad Operator

I realized that this needed to be said to a friend recently, but resentment between you and your spouse is normal when nobody is sleeping properly for months or years at a time so be gentle and forgiving with each other. It sounds like you're doing well already, but just in case you needed to hear it too.

Another Bill has issued a correction as of 03:31 on Dec 23, 2021

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
no that's very good advice thank you to you both. night feeds are certainly needed, although we've managed to keep her active during the day so she's starting to have her longer naps during the night, thank goodness. just need her to go down in her crib consistently

i am definitely tackling all the cooking, cleaning, changing, burping to support feeding. the little girl is demanding almost hourly right now for extended periods of time, which is intense as hell, but I think we're turning a corner. i just feel bad for my wife who is determined but getting a bit worn down and sore. we've had little grumpy moments but honestly I think we've done pretty well communicating throughout this. the one nice thing about this wretched pandemic is it's just been a month of the three of us together hanging out. nothing beats the baby falling asleep clinging to you in a tiny baby hug. :unsmith:

the tough part is finding the time to pump. the hospital outpatient lactation specialists tried to give us a rough timeline for each feed but the feeds are now lasting a long time now so there just doesn't feel like there's any time. there was time when she wasn't feeding as long and we were supplementing with formula. I guess that'll change though as her stomach and digestion develop though? I know rationally these are just phases to get through as the baby grows and develops but man the recommendations and expectations for parents, especially women, are nuts. look after yourself! but also you should probably breastfeed! and get rest! but also find time to exercise! what the gently caress

Leroy Diplowski
Aug 25, 2005

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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Are the Boxcar Children problematic? I remember thinking the books were cool as a kid but almost every other piece of old kids media I've found has been hosed up.

I wanted to read Dr dolittle to my kid because I had really fond memories of the books from when I was a kid.

I went to ask the librarian if they had the books because they were in the catalogue but not on the shelves. She was like "ohhhh we keep that one in the basement but idk why". Took me like two chapters to find out why.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




my wife just never had quite enough production at it was really really awful.

listen to Another Bill even if you think you are doing well. I didn’t know how little my wife was sleeping. and there is no shame in switching to formula. there is huge amount of pressure to breastfeed. it’s good to do but can be really just terrible on the breast feeder.

also try fenugreek pills we found it always worked up milk production, if it was dropping off.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
my wife could only pump half a bag at work so we supplemented with formula

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Leroy Diplowski posted:

I wanted to read Dr dolittle to my kid because I had really fond memories of the books from when I was a kid.

I went to ask the librarian if they had the books because they were in the catalogue but not on the shelves. She was like "ohhhh we keep that one in the basement but idk why". Took me like two chapters to find out why.

What's up with the books? I never read them

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

What's up with the books? I never read them

dated racist depictions of nonwhites IIRC

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Bar Ran Dun posted:

my wife just never had quite enough production at it was really really awful.

listen to Another Bill even if you think you are doing well. I didn’t know how little my wife was sleeping. and there is no shame in switching to formula. there is huge amount of pressure to breastfeed. it’s good to do but can be really just terrible on the breast feeder.

also try fenugreek pills we found it always worked up milk production, if it was dropping off.

Don't be afraid to say "hey this just isn't working for us"


The nursing staff for our second kid was a little apoplectic when we flatly said no to breast feeding

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

the hospital my daughter was born in was pro-breast-feeding to the point that cards depicting bottles were forbidden, but the lactation consultant at the same hospital was all “yeah that’s mastitis, take a break and use formula”.

I actually loved being able to feed my daughter routinely. it was such a great, loving experience that we got to share, plus my then-wife got to sleep a fair bit more

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




brugroffil posted:

The nursing staff for our second kid was a little apoplectic when we flatly said no to breast feeding

depending on where you are support can be... spotty. in some regions lactation consultations are basically only able to help people with no production and a total inability to feed/latch. in other places they can help with stuff like this. it really dramatically differs depending on where you are.

also the birth in general is affected by it.

our first child was in the south it was a horror show at the good hospital. my second kid was in the Seattle area, if we had the second one in GA I’m pretty sure we would have ended up with Cerebral Palsy or my wife would have died. it literally changed the trajectory of our lives that the hospitals are so much better here.

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Bar Ran Dun posted:

my wife just never had quite enough production at it was really really awful.


sonatinas posted:

my wife could only pump half a bag at work so we supplemented with formula

My wife spent a month and a half building up enough supply to produce HALF of what our daughter needed a day, with weekly lactation consultant appointments and trying everything under the sun. She was pumping 8 times a day while also attempting (unsuccessful) breastfeeding for the first 4 weeks before switching to exclusive pumping.
After 3 months she had enough and decided to start weaning, which took another month and a half even with her low supply.
When she was pumping she was basically stuck in place with her pump, actively trying to squeeze out as much milk as possible - hard loving work, while also feeling disconnected from the baby even holding her with a pumping bra or portable pump. Between that, the stress of clogs/fear of mastitis and the whole process eating up hours and hours of her day, sometimes it's just not loving worth it.

Leroy Diplowski
Aug 25, 2005

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Son of Thunderbeast posted:

What's up with the books? I never read them

Lot of writing about black people from a dude in the 1920s. Liberal use of the n-word. Prince bumpo wanting to become white and being tricked by the monkeys.

Honestly the storytelling and broader narratives hold up well and there's an abridged version of the first book that's pretty good. It's especially disturbing thinking of the historical context of what england was up to in Africa at the time.

For content; I have found that slightly scary books hold my kids attention well. "Hoodoo" and "Evangeline of the bayou" were two big hits this year. "The book of boy" was also really good if you are in the mood to explain 14th Century catholic traditions to your kid.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Oh yeah to be clear, all the lactation consultants we've had through the hospital and the public health nurses have done everything to support our desire to breastfeed and have never insisted on it. formula was always part of any plan when things started out rough to supplement. honestly just A++ birth experience and hospital support all around.

of course this is in ontario. my friend had her daughter in quebec and said they were insane zealots about breastfeeding to the point where she was starving her daughter for 3 weeks before she gave up and switched to formula. and it was fine, obviously. the whole discourse around breastfeeding is intense as hell.

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

also no one ever told us at any point in the first three weeks that babies should be getting fed every 2 hours, and should have a shitload of oz’s per day. once we got on that rhythm, everything got a ton smoother for sleep, naps, crankiness, poops.

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



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meanolmrcloud posted:

also no one ever told us at any point in the first three weeks that babies should be getting fed every 2 hours, and should have a shitload of oz’s per day. once we got on that rhythm, everything got a ton smoother for sleep, naps, crankiness, poops.

they really just let anyone have one of these. no tests; nothing

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
baby poop is also hilarious and weird

except the meconium. gently caress that stuff

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CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

We spent the first three weeks in NICU and I learned a ton from the nurses there. Would have been wholly unprepared if not for that experience

I disagree that baby poop is hilarious (??), it's fuckin' gross and gets in every crevice

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