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FistEnergy posted:https://twitter.com/hello_gonzalo/status/1475536125573828609?t=AfxiU4uv9PGetjpLTjRnpg&s=19 There's been a robust and immediate federal response all year long, and yet COVID has not been solved with the powers and mechanisms available to the federal government. And yeah, we can quibble about stuff like whether the government could have done more on test availability, but even sending out tests and masks to every person in the country every week wouldn't be enough to end COVID. The key interventions that would be needed are all state-level stuff.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Medical masks are bad" seems like a thread lore thing that isn't strongly supported. I think the main issue is there's a giant disconnect between posters rationally wanting the absolute best protection for themselves, and thinking everyone else in the nation is one national N95 airdrop away from ending COVID forever. The people most concerned about COVID ignore the huge portion of everyone else around them who are willing to irrationally not give a poo poo. Even in Bluest Blue NYC at the absolute worst positivity numbers we've ever seen, I saw a good 1 in 5 people in Grand Central Station yesterday either dicknosing or chin diapering. Maybe a 1-2% no mask at all, but they stood out. I wish we could get to 100% of people simply getting a surgical mask over their noses, but the only ones with the authority to actually enforce that are the loving masks-are-for-pussies NYPD. Now try getting <50% vaccinated Alabama or wherever to hit even that low benchmark. No amount of federal pressure or free anti-plague options will get them putting on N95s or getting 95%+ vaccinated. And for the record I'm triple vaxed, N95 + surgical indoors, and only went maskless at places that did vaccine checks before Omicron hit.
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Dec 27, 2021 21:36
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Judakel posted:You're going to a pharmacy, potentially sick, to get the vaccine. Well it was written as (numbering mine): quote:vaccination during quarantine could be considered during (1) outreach and contact tracing activities or (2) at the time of post-exposure SARS-CoV-2 testing" Which to me sounds like it's either 1. during times that you're potentially being given a housecall of some kind or 2. during a time that you're already at a testing facility anyway, so there's no additional risk involved. I agree that if neither of those were the case, it doesn't make sense to have you rush out to a pharmacy. But that doesn't seem to be what this is talking about
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At least from my perspective in a blue state that attempted to do its best to manage Covid while Trump was in office, not much has changed since Biden has been in office. We still have a mask mandate in place and there's vaccine mandates for health care workers and state employees, but the thing is that it's not just "states" that have to do something about it. Like there's no real enforcement of mask mandates on businesses that I can see. Some places have people all masked up, some seem to be lax about it. I guess you can report violations and maybe they get a fine or something? And even a big blue state has lots of red counties where the county sheriff reigns over their little fiefdom and like hell are they gonna enforce the communist Biden agenda. There is far too much variation in municipalities and jurisdiction in this country to be able to tackle Covid on a federal level, and arguably even a good state response won't be enough with the amount of power the "we want to love and kiss the virus" idiots can wield in local municipalities.
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Dec 27, 2021 21:39
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Professor Beetus posted:At least from my perspective in a blue state that attempted to do its best to manage Covid while Trump was in office, not much has changed since Biden has been in office. We still have a mask mandate in place and there's vaccine mandates for health care workers and state employees, but the thing is that it's not just "states" that have to do something about it. Like there's no real enforcement of mask mandates on businesses that I can see. Some places have people all masked up, some seem to be lax about it. I guess you can report violations and maybe they get a fine or something? And even a big blue state has lots of red counties where the county sheriff reigns over their little fiefdom and like hell are they gonna enforce the communist Biden agenda. There is far too much variation in municipalities and jurisdiction in this country to be able to tackle Covid on a federal level, and arguably even a good state response won't be enough with the amount of power the "we want to love and kiss the virus" idiots can wield in local municipalities. It comes down to the fact that nobody in power is actually doing anything meaningful, because any implementation of npis WITH ENFORCEMENT will disrupt capital. We can eat poo poo with 10k deaths a day and it still won't happen. You are well and truly on your own.
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Does anyone know what the deal is with the telomere shortening/up to 35 years of biological aging chart/paper? Does this mean even a mild case is knocking that many years straight off your lifespan or what?
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https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475537714086694919 this seems really, really, really good?
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abelwingnut posted:https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475537714086694919 It doesn't seem possible with the omicron rates in high boost areas
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Dec 27, 2021 21:54
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Riptor posted:Well it was written as (numbering mine): That's true, if you're one of the few in situation 2 it makes sense. Very few people are in that situation. They either exhibit symptoms and have a reasonably good idea it is covid or go to a testing site that only does tests. Number 1 is just an asymptomatic person who wouldn't know they had it or even suspect it. Because as soon as you have symptoms, don't go.
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Dec 27, 2021 21:55
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Wang Commander posted:It doesn't seem possible with the omicron rates in high boost areas What are those?
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OddObserver posted:What are those? Israel and Denmark
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abelwingnut posted:https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475537714086694919 The scientists who were urging people to not freak out over the initial studies of neutralizing antibodies may have been correct. B cells are not nearly as picky when it comes to killing things. Wang Commander posted:It doesn't seem possible with the omicron rates in high boost areas
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Dec 27, 2021 21:59
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Wang Commander posted:Does anyone know what the deal is with the telomere shortening/up to 35 years of biological aging chart/paper? Does this mean even a mild case is knocking that many years straight off your lifespan or what? it might be helpful to link the study you're asking about
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Dec 27, 2021 22:01
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Wang Commander posted:Does anyone know what the deal is with the telomere shortening/up to 35 years of biological aging chart/paper? Does this mean even a mild case is knocking that many years straight off your lifespan or what? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/01/210111115738.htm The study was that shorter telomeres correlate with worse outcomes, not that Covid saps out the telomeres in random cells in your body. What would even be the mechanism for it stealing telomeres from unaffected cells?
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Denmark - 27 December Switching to use text file as of today which seems to be more cut-and-dried. https://covid19.ssi.dk/overvagningsdata/download-fil-med-overvaagningdata So even with new source, while cases continue to climb in Denmark, hospitalizations are not yet fully tracking the rise. pre:Denmark Covid Cases ------------------------------------ Dec 27 16,164 new cases, 639 reinfections, 115 new hospitalizations (608 total), 70 ICU (-1), 46 Vent (-2), 7 dead Dec 26 14,844 new cases, 644 reinfections, 123 new hospitalization (579 total), 71 ICU (-2), 43 Vent (+1), 13 dead Dec 25 10,027 new cases, 463 reinfections, 86 new hospitalization (522 total), 73 ICU (-1), 44 Vent (+5), 10 dead Dec 24 11,229 new cases, 527 reinfections, 134 new hospitalizations (509 total), 74 ICU (+2), 39 vent (+1), 14 dead Dec 23 12,487 new cases, 613 reinfections, 158 new hospitalizations (541 total), 72 ICU (+6), 38 vent (+1), 15 dead Dec 22 13,386 new cases, 531 reinfections, 126 new hospitalization (524 total), 66 ICU (-1), 37 vent(+2), 14 dead Dec 21 13,558 new cases, 501 reinfections, 121 new hospitalization (526 total), 67 ICU (+1), 35 vent(+2) , 17 dead Dec 20 10,082 new cases, (no reinf. data), 85 new hospitalization (581 total), 66 ICU (+3), 33 vent(-2), 8 dead Dec 19 8,212 Dec 18 8,594 Dec 17 11,194 Dec 16 9,999 Dec 15 8,773 pre:Unvaccinated Partial Full Unvaccinated Partial Full 27 DEC New cases: 304.4 324.9 263.3 Hospitalizations: 40.0 15.8 7.8 26 DEC New cases: 310.4 274.9 241.2 Hospitalizations: 39.0 15.4 7.3 25 DEC New cases: 181.6 162.1 161.5 Hospitalizations: 33.9 16.0 6.8 24 DEC New cases: 184.1 173.0 182.1 Hospitalizations: 34.5 14.9 7.1 23 DEC New cases: 237.1 202.6 197.9 Hospitalizations: 35.4 16.2 7.5 22 DEC New cases: 257.1 198.1 211.7 Hospitalizations: 34.2 15.3 7.3 21 DEC New cases: 270.1 226.2 207.8 Hospitalizations: 32.9 14.3 7.5 Todays report on PCR tests for Omicron as a percentage of variant tests show that Denmark is probably well over 80% by now in Omicron. pre:1.77% on 1 December 4.8% on 6 December 10.17% on 8 December 22.06% on 12 December 37.97% on 14 December 50% on 17 December 60% on 20 December 70% on 21 December 76% on 22 December 79.31% on 23 December (only 29 tests though) Sources: https://covid19.ssi.dk/overvagningsdata/download-fil-med-overvaagningdata https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/242ec2acc014456295189631586f1d26 https://covid19.ssi.dk/virusvarianter/delta-pcr Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/01/210111115738.htm Okay that's kind of what I figured. It's worth noting that diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and a whole bunch of other factors can cause shortening telomeres. It's perfectly reasonable that causality goes shortened telomeres (associated with a bunch of risk factors) leads to more severe outcomes. edit: and the article talks about how shortened telomeres hamper the body's ability to recover and regenerate after COVID-19 infection. Fritz the Horse fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Wang Commander posted:Does anyone know what the deal is with the telomere shortening/up to 35 years of biological aging chart/paper? Does this mean even a mild case is knocking that many years straight off your lifespan or what? That chart is a prime example of correlation vs. causation. There is a correlation between shorter telomeres and worse COVID cases. This does not imply that the COVID caused the telomeres to shorten. The telomeres were not measured prior to the patients acquiring COVID nor were they measured at different time points during the infection, so we have no way of judging if the disease itself had any impact or if it was entirely a preexisting condition.
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abelwingnut posted:this seems really, really, really good? Wang Commander posted:It doesn't seem possible with the omicron rates in high boost areas Vaccinations  Cases  Deaths  And the anecdotal evidence of half a dozen cases so far among double vaxed patients is sore throat and rhinorrhea, otherwise fine. My triple vaxed 65F tested positive with zero symptoms.
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brugroffil posted:That was last updated almost a year ago. I don't know why but I've started noticing artefacts from specific times in the pandemic all over the place lately. My favourite is the government-issued notice taped to the counter at my closest liquor store which says something like "Do not enter the premises if you have been in China, South Korea or Iran in the past 14 days." But not Italy. You could probably pinpoint down to the precise day in February 2020 when that was printed.
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Fritz the Horse posted:it might be helpful to link the study you're asking about There is no study, he just posts wild stuff all the time then asks people to disprove it. Wang Commander posted:The only magic words here are "Marek's disease but for people" pretty much Wang Commander posted:We're seeing R estimates up to 36 Wang Commander posted:We also know from the lab that Spike can evolve to bind ACE2 so strongly that immune response becomes irrelevant and the only way out is either being born with a mutant ACE2 or gene therapy. Wang Commander posted:https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/1470109244011827205 Wang Commander posted:The last coronavirus iirc took 20,000 years to "attenuate" via selection pressure... On humans Wang Commander posted:We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this, no one should want a repeat of the loving sleepy sickness just so we can mindlessly consume treats. etc
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Dec 27, 2021 22:23
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MadJackal posted:And the anecdotal evidence of half a dozen cases so far among double vaxed patients is sore throat and rhinorrhea, otherwise fine. I've heard a lot of anecdotes like this from hcw but then we have the MRI guy talking about the hospital filling up with double vaxxed, hoping he's just unlucky
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I knew that relative telomere age chart was going to cause problems when I saw it posted I follow r/nursing and apparently a big problem with ERs right now is that people are flooding in the second they're notified of an exposure and demanding treatment
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Dec 27, 2021 22:24
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MadJackal posted:Vaccinations What are the hospitalizations at in New York City?
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Tiny Timbs posted:I knew that relative telomere age chart was going to cause problems when I saw it posted https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1475459017480810497 Found it again for reference
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Dec 27, 2021 22:26
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Wang Commander posted:I've heard a lot of anecdotes like this from hcw but then we have the MRI guy talking about the hospital filling up with double vaxxed, hoping he's just unlucky Quick question, did you actually get 20-30 booster shots
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Dec 27, 2021 22:26
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Michael Penis posted:Quick question, did you actually get 20-30 booster shots Did you register just to ask me this? Press/scientific inquiries via pm only please.
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Dec 27, 2021 22:30
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abelwingnut posted:https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475537714086694919 The improved breadth/avidity of antibodies post-booster, in addition to simply increased antibody concentration, is well in-line with all the other literature, and is definitely good. I wouldn't put much value in those VE% figures, though. For one, I have no idea where he is getting them. The paper he links doesn't really have anything to do with it, and doesn't even involve vaccines--it's just a paper demonstrating that antibody maturation produces antibodies that are better at neutralizing omicron. Probably he is trying to estimate VE based on neutralization titers, which, while there are some papers providing estimates along those lines, is extremely rough way of estimating VE, with huge error bars, relying on lots of assumptions based on older (pre-omicron) data. Apart from that, VE of 75% against symptomatic illness doesn't look very compatible with epidemiological data so far. Finally, and unfortunately, we should keep in mind that the efficacy of boosters seems to wane more or less as rapidly as 2nd shot VE did. That is where the antibody maturation process becomes both good and bad news, imo. If the efficacy of boosters was purely due to quantitatively higher antibody concentrations--that would in some sense actually be good news, since you can keep boosting antibodies to high concentrations indefinitely (in principle). Otoh, if the efficacy of boosters vs. omicron is in large part due to some qualitative improvement in antibodies (breadth, avidity, etc.), that's in some ways kind of bad news, because that's not a trick our immune system can play indefinitely if the virus continues to evolve against a backdrop of selective pressure by nAbs
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Dec 27, 2021 22:36
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Wang Commander posted:I've heard a lot of anecdotes like this from hcw but then we have the MRI guy talking about the hospital filling up with double vaxxed, hoping he's just unlucky There are gigantic differences between outpatient office COVID symptomatic +/- tests, ED visits for positive COVID tests (which for radiology techs might be overwhelming depending on how gung-ho ED docs are in each hospital), actual inpatient admissions, and ICU upgrades. "The hospital" filling up could mean a backlog of ED docs ordering CT chests on every single COVID positive who walks in the door. They like to go Tube of Truth on everything because of the whole "lose your license if you miss something" thing. Also MRIs aren't used to diagnose COVID. A basic chest Xray showing bilateral ground glass opacities is enough to diagnose / get a handle on how screwed a COVID patient is.
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Wang Commander posted:https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1475459017480810497  You can tell this is a good study because the whole methodology is drawing a single straight line. The study contains no actual children, and the default for a covid free child (the blue graph) is to be aged TWENTY years by not getting covid. Also covid deages anyone over about 70.
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Wang Commander posted:I've heard a lot of anecdotes like this from hcw but then we have the MRI guy talking about the hospital filling up with double vaxxed, hoping he's just unlucky https://twitter.com/ChrisCEOHopson/status/1475540067187834886
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:
Lmao I was just going to point out that they lacked data from the COVID individuals prior to their contracting the disease but turns out the study was even dumber than I thought.
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Wang Commander posted:Does anyone know what the deal is with the telomere shortening/up to 35 years of biological aging chart/paper? Does this mean even a mild case is knocking that many years straight off your lifespan or what? yes that is literally what is happening, exactly
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:
We finally found the way to attain eternal youth, with a certain definition of youth. That eponymous fountain would be kind of a copout if it would just let you stay at age 70...
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also re: the Biden “There is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” tweet, it's literally a right-wing account plucking a short bit out of context. What that quote actually is, is Biden complimenting governors on a phone call after they compliment actions taken by the White House. https://twitter.com/Amanda_Kerri/status/1475573771587174409 https://twitter.com/CMargaronis/status/1475554746073190400 If you listen to the full context, what's happening is Biden is on a phone call with several governors. The first couple of minutes are a lot of rear end-kissing by one of the governors. Then Biden responds with some compliments back. The “There is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” quote is not Biden declaring the federal government can't/won't do poo poo and is leaving it to the states, he's replying directly to a governor who just finished sucking up to him. He's schmoozing with governors on a phone call, they're complimenting the White House, he's complimenthing them back on their responses. Then Biden launches into talking details about how they're trying to improve testing and sending military personnel (federal actions) etc. Look I think the Biden admin has been fairly poo poo at pandemic response, but it's useful to consider context and what twitter accounts you're boosting when you repost and respond to ragebait tweets. edit: like, the @beingrealmac account that is being retweeted with the short Biden quote is a right-wing anti-masker, anti-vaxx, transphobe etc. Fritz the Horse fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:also re: the Biden “There is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” tweet, it's literally a right-wing account plucking a short bit out of context. I'm shocked, shocked, to find that gambling is going on in here.
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Fritz the Horse posted:also re: the Biden “There is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” tweet, it's literally a right-wing account plucking a short bit out of context. What that quote actually is, is Biden complimenting governors on a phone call after they compliment actions taken by the White House. I know Amanda Kerri in real life, and may I say lmao at her tweets being posted here. Just lmao. She's great in person, but not an authority on ANYTHING political.
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https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2021/12/27/cdc-reduces-isolation-time-for-people-with-covid-to-5-days/quote:NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — U.S. health officials on Monday cut isolation restrictions for Americans who catch the coronavirus from 10 to five days, and similarly shortened the time that close contacts need to quarantine. What a complete loving disgrace
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One of my friends just told me he's had 5 shots. The original two back in January somehow. Then over the summer he wanted to travel somewhere internationally for vacation so he lied to Walgreens and told them he was unvaxxed and got two more, then he just got the booster right before Christmas. I'm trying to comprehend being worried enough about breakthroughs to get a third and fourth(!!) shot to party it up and Brazil or whatever, but not worried enough to ya know not do the international suck and gently caress.
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Keeping society functioning by helping covid spread even faster, very cool!
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A big flaming stink posted:https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2021/12/27/cdc-reduces-isolation-time-for-people-with-covid-to-5-days/ If the infection is milder and everyone is getting it anyways then this seems fairly practical. We need to keep society running, after all.
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