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Tiger Millionaire: Jan 25, 2014; He'll eat your kids and fire your parents!

Every time a new Fromsoft game comes out I go " THIS time I'll do my first playthrough completely blind" and eventually meet a funny little NPC I worry that I might accidentally send to their death and end up spoiling half the game trying to keep them safe

# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:45

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# ? May 24, 2024 18:38

cool av: Mar 2, 2013

Tiger Millionaire posted:

Every time a new Fromsoft game comes out I go " THIS time I'll do my first playthrough completely blind" and eventually meet a funny little NPC I worry that I might accidentally send to their death and end up spoiling half the game trying to keep them safe

just do it, you can save them in NG+

(this is how my firelink shrine ended up almost completely empty in DS3. and i had pretty much no clue as to why)

# ? Dec 27, 2021 23:44

Johnny Joestar: Oct 21, 2010; Don't shoot him?

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i'm kinda glad i haven't gone out of my way to look up anything for the game and am just excited for it to come out

# ? Dec 27, 2021 23:46

giZm: Jul 7, 2003; Only the insane equates pain with success

Tiger Millionaire posted:

Every time a new Fromsoft game comes out

Offline mode for NG or bust.

# ? Dec 27, 2021 23:47

cool av: Mar 2, 2013

Mailer posted:

Yup, I've been told that before too and it's one of the reasons I thought I just missed something initially. Souls also had complete you-couldn't-guess-this bullshit, like Kalameet's telekinesis, but on the whole it never felt like I had to die until I memorized tells or anything. You get a lot of mileage out of a universal dodge button with a nice chunk of attached iframes.

i�d say in theory you could tell what�s what on your first try, but in practice you do have to memorize the moveset to play at a high level. like parry chains with offbeat timings are a thing; you�re not going to just get it right by being a savant, you�re gonna get hit until you memorize it.

otoh, just jumping/running away from stuff will get you through the entire game if you�re dedicated but don�t want to memorize/use the mechanics

# ? Dec 27, 2021 23:58

Bananasaurus Rex: Mar 19, 2009

Tiger Millionaire posted:

Every time a new Fromsoft game comes out I go " THIS time I'll do my first playthrough completely blind" and eventually meet a funny little NPC I worry that I might accidentally send to their death and end up spoiling half the game trying to keep them safe

I looked up how to save onion knight in ds3 cause I knew I hosed up somewhere along the way. DS3 npc questlines are very obtuse and easy to break imo

I did do sekiro blind and missed out on eavesdropping on the sculptor. Didnt realize i had to hug the wall to trigger it

Gonna do elden ring blind. I imagine there's going to be loads of npc quest lines. Sorry won't save you all. And by save i mean send to your tragic deaths for an item

# ? Dec 28, 2021 00:35

Son of Thunderbeast: Sep 21, 2002

Sometimes the wiki is the only way to even figure out how to finish someone's questline. DS1 was especially bad about this, esp. saving Solaire or resurrecting Reah

# ? Dec 28, 2021 00:38

CharlestonJew: Jul 7, 2011; Illegal Hen

I don�t care how many spoilers I have to read, I WILL make sure Alexander gets a happy ending in all my playthrus

# ? Dec 28, 2021 02:23

cool av: Mar 2, 2013

every pot bro is kill on sight for me, no exceptions

# ? Dec 28, 2021 02:34

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

cool av posted:

every pot bro is kill on sight for me, no exceptions

I've got a bad feeling about these pot bros

# ? Dec 28, 2021 02:36

Sum Gai: Mar 23, 2013

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Sometimes the wiki is the only way to even figure out how to finish someone's questline. DS1 was especially bad about this, esp. saving Solaire

I think that the bad end to his questline works pretty well as an ending. The good ending really should be kind of hard to figure out on your own.

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or resurrecting Reah

Heh.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 03:06

Asehujiko: Apr 6, 2011

As someone with beat deafness*, the amount of fun I have in FromSoft games directly correlates to how much of an alternative there is to iframe dodging; Dark Souls 1 being my favourite, followed by 2, then 3 and finally Sekiro was a horrid slog that I never finished it and switched to watching a let's play of instead.

I've been mostly avoiding spoilers but the way From games have increasingly trended toward demanding a style of play completely based on rhythm and timing has me wondering if I can even play this one or if it's going to be another Sekiro. So my question to the network test people: How viable is it to tank with a shield or dodge to vacate the space to where an attack is going to land(as opposed to iframing through it)?

*The Wikipedia article only mentions music/dancing but it also applies to precise timing/rhythm mechanics in games. For example I can't consistently do high level tick manipulation in Runescape either.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 03:09

Silynt: Sep 21, 2009

I�ve always played Dark Souls games by dodging; I�ve never used a shield in a single play through. It really surprised me when the game where you play as a ninja wielding a katana was so much more focused on blocking than on dodging - if you�re trying to dodge everything in Sekiro, you�re probably doing it wrong.

Edit: not that this necessarily applies to you because timing is still incredibly important, just a general observation.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 04:34

MarsPearl: Feb 19, 2021

Asehujiko posted:

As someone with beat deafness*, the amount of fun I have in FromSoft games directly correlates to how much of an alternative there is to iframe dodging; Dark Souls 1 being my favourite, followed by 2, then 3 and finally Sekiro was a horrid slog that I never finished it and switched to watching a let's play of instead.

I've been mostly avoiding spoilers but the way From games have increasingly trended toward demanding a style of play completely based on rhythm and timing has me wondering if I can even play this one or if it's going to be another Sekiro. So my question to the network test people: How viable is it to tank with a shield or dodge to vacate the space to where an attack is going to land(as opposed to iframing through it)?

*The Wikipedia article only mentions music/dancing but it also applies to precise timing/rhythm mechanics in games. For example I can't consistently do high level tick manipulation in Runescape either.

Did you link a wikipedia article to support the idea that you have a completely unfounded medical condition based off one scientist's case study of one subject to excuse you being bad at a game that has nothing to do with music?

# ? Dec 28, 2021 05:06

bows1: May 16, 2004; Chill, whale, chill

Asehujiko posted:

As someone with beat deafness*, the amount of fun I have in FromSoft games directly correlates to how much of an alternative there is to iframe dodging; Dark Souls 1 being my favourite, followed by 2, then 3 and finally Sekiro was a horrid slog that I never finished it and switched to watching a let's play of instead.

I've been mostly avoiding spoilers but the way From games have increasingly trended toward demanding a style of play completely based on rhythm and timing has me wondering if I can even play this one or if it's going to be another Sekiro. So my question to the network test people: How viable is it to tank with a shield or dodge to vacate the space to where an attack is going to land(as opposed to iframing through it)?

*The Wikipedia article only mentions music/dancing but it also applies to precise timing/rhythm mechanics in games. For example I can't consistently do high level tick manipulation in Runescape either.

How do you even get diagnosed with this

# ? Dec 28, 2021 05:09

Chard: Aug 24, 2010

MarsPearl posted:

Did you link a wikipedia article to support the idea that you have a completely unfounded medical condition based off one scientist's case study of one subject to excuse you being bad at a game that has nothing to do with music?

do you really think someone would do that?

just go on the internet and tell lies?

# ? Dec 28, 2021 05:20

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

bows1 posted:

How do you even get diagnosed with this

Colour chart.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 05:26

Cavauro: Jan 9, 2008

i haven't been able to get past any non-railroad parts of the souls series because i have face blindness which makes it impossible for me to remember which npcs and enemies are which

# ? Dec 28, 2021 05:38

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

lol

lmao

# ? Dec 28, 2021 05:40

MechaSeinfeld: Jan 2, 2008

I have a terrible condition (morgellons) that inhibits me from executing touch of death combos and for that reason I give Sekiro 2 out of 10

# ? Dec 28, 2021 06:52

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Asehujiko posted:

As someone with beat deafness*, the amount of fun I have in FromSoft games directly correlates to how much of an alternative there is to iframe dodging; Dark Souls 1 being my favourite, followed by 2, then 3 and finally Sekiro was a horrid slog that I never finished it and switched to watching a let's play of instead.

I've been mostly avoiding spoilers but the way From games have increasingly trended toward demanding a style of play completely based on rhythm and timing has me wondering if I can even play this one or if it's going to be another Sekiro. So my question to the network test people: How viable is it to tank with a shield or dodge to vacate the space to where an attack is going to land(as opposed to iframing through it)?

*The Wikipedia article only mentions music/dancing but it also applies to precise timing/rhythm mechanics in games. For example I can't consistently do high level tick manipulation in Runescape either.

youre kidding, right

# ? Dec 28, 2021 07:11

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

# ? Dec 28, 2021 07:37

MechaSeinfeld: Jan 2, 2008

i got beat deafness. i beat da f out of my nutss

# ? Dec 28, 2021 07:51

RatHat: Dec 31, 2007; A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Asehujiko posted:

As someone with beat deafness*, the amount of fun I have in FromSoft games directly correlates to how much of an alternative there is to iframe dodging; Dark Souls 1 being my favourite, followed by 2, then 3 and finally Sekiro was a horrid slog that I never finished it and switched to watching a let's play of instead.

I've been mostly avoiding spoilers but the way From games have increasingly trended toward demanding a style of play completely based on rhythm and timing has me wondering if I can even play this one or if it's going to be another Sekiro. So my question to the network test people: How viable is it to tank with a shield or dodge to vacate the space to where an attack is going to land(as opposed to iframing through it)?

*The Wikipedia article only mentions music/dancing but it also applies to precise timing/rhythm mechanics in games. For example I can't consistently do high level tick manipulation in Runescape either.

Well regardless of the validity of your condition tanking hits with a shield in Elden Ring seems like it�ll be as viable as ever, especially with the new counter hit you can do after blocking.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 07:58

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

i cannot carry a tune. i can only hesitate.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 08:10

Impermanent: Apr 1, 2010

On my third playthrough of sekiro and I just figured out you can block and parry the attacks by the first giant miniboss by ashina gate. For some reason when I started I felt like I couldn't parry those because they're not sword attacks. Well. I feel stronger but also dumb.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 09:08

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Impermanent posted:

On my third playthrough of sekiro and I just figured out you can block and parry the attacks by the first giant miniboss by ashina gate. For some reason when I started I felt like I couldn't parry those because they're not sword attacks. Well. I feel stronger but also dumb.

You aren't weak or stupid. You are the problem from the start of the game. You discomfort god and the heavens themselves with your rancour. You can parry and block many things and you can punish many more.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 11:23

ASenileAnimal: Dec 21, 2017

RatHat posted:

Well regardless of the validity of your condition tanking hits with a shield in Elden Ring seems like it’ll be as viable as ever, especially with the new counter hit you can do after blocking.

this sounds cool and i wanted to know this too. not because i have any condition but because im lazy and sometimes dont want to iframe through long boss combos for an entire fight.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 11:48

Asehujiko: Apr 6, 2011

MarsPearl posted:

Did you link a wikipedia article to support the idea that you have a completely unfounded medical condition based off one scientist's case study of one subject to excuse you being bad at a game that has nothing to do with music?

It's always been lumped in with ADHD and I linked that wikipedia page because it's the most concise description that isn't an entry halfway down a long rear end list of ADHD symptoms. If you disagree with the guy that thinks it should be a separate diagnosis because he didn't find enough people with no (apparent) ADHD then here's the same findings about people who do have it: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-11295-w.

It's also not music itself but the underlying mechanism of timing actions to a very slight delay, whether that's how long ago the last note was or attack telegraph into iframe timing. Like I said, I have the same issue with doing tick actions Runescape, a wildly different game in all aspects but with the same rhythm based timing. It's music that gets tested in studies because it's literally 100x older than videogames, a lot more people try to play instruments than games with similar timing mechanism(that aren't also literally music, like Guitar Hero) and bringing up the subject doesn't get immediately dismissed with a barrage of "git gud" like in videogames.

# ? Dec 28, 2021 14:11