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I mean the alternative where you swear off all personal contact and just passive-aggressively doompost seems to be a real favorite for some folks.
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smackfu posted:States are realizing they can literally use federal Covid funding to buy tests and they will get them out before the federal free ones. Is this the funding states claimed was impossible to spend on anything without making people file a mountain of paperwork
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Kaal posted:I mean the alternative where you swear off all personal contact and just passive-aggressively doompost seems to be a real favorite for some folks. False dichotomies are always a good sign someone has really thought their position through. It's not unreasonable to want to wait for the actual risks of repeatedly infecting oneself with a novel virus to become better known. Especially when better technology that can ameliorate some of those effects is likely on the near horizon. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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Dec 28, 2021 23:18
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AHH F/UGH posted:Look sometimes you just have to keep living life. Quit being such a shut in and moving the goalposts You literally think we are at a "worse point than 2020" I'm sorry that you don't believe vaccines work or whatever, but you don't have to spread misinformation.
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Tomorrow I get a PCR test done for Covid. For the sake of my own curiosity, will I be able to figure out what variant it is if I am positive? From what I recall, the US isn’t that great at sequencing but I’m not sure if that’s related to this kind of situation.
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One of the major healthcare networks in my area are straight up saying if you test positive on a home test, you have covid and not to bother getting a lab test done to confirm. They also want a DOCTOR'S NOTE to get a PCR test done through their network. wtf? They are claiming it is because there is such a shortage on tests/ manpower for the testing. Still pretty ridiculous. This is in the Lehigh Valley, PA. https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2021/12/lines-for-covid-tests-are-hours-long-so-dont-get-tested-unless-you-need-it.html If you have symptoms and tested positive with a home COVID test, you don’t need a second laboratory test to confirm you have COVID-19, according to a news release from St. Luke’s. .......... “Our region is experiencing a surge in demand for testing because of the Omicron variant,” said Jeffrey Jahre, St. Luke’s senior vice president of medical and academic affairs. “We ask for the public’s thoughtful cooperation to ensure our region’s health care resources are available and accessible in a timely manner to those patients with the greatest need.” You need a note from your doctor to get a laboratory COVID test. Those tests are offered at St. Luke’s Health Network’s emergency rooms and Care Now locations. If you develop a fever and symptoms such as a cough or difficulty breathing, call your doctor for medical advice, the news release says.
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buglord posted:Tomorrow I get a PCR test done for Covid. For the sake of my own curiosity, will I be able to figure out what variant it is if I am positive? From what I recall, the US isn’t that great at sequencing but I’m not sure if that’s related to this kind of situation. No. Someone who works in a lab can probably anecdotally tell by virtue of what they see hundreds of times a day depending on their methodology. But it doesn't come back on results. Positive tests get passed on to the likes of state health departments or universities, which may sequence yours if it's among any sample that is sent to them. That we have been lagging behind at/underdoing sequencing is kind of a separate public health issue.
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Some Guy From NY posted:One of the major healthcare networks in my area are straight up saying if you test positive on a home test, you have covid and not to bother getting a lab test done to confirm. TBH this is probably a sensible way of doing things in an Omicron world - LFDs so rarely false-positive that there's not much point in getting a PCR, or rather not much point leaving isolation to get a test that doesn't actually change the medical situation. If it were the other way round and LFDs tended to throw out false positives and a PCR could confirm you weren't actually infected and so didn't need to isolate then that's a different matter, but you might as well treat a positive LFD as a positive PCR and save the PCR capacity (and risk of infecting other people) for higher-risk cases (e.g. people about to go into hospital for non-covid related treatment where the much more sensitive test is worthwhile). To the best of my knowledge there's no generally-available and accepted treatment that actually improves the prognosis of someone who's asymptomatic so it probably is better for people with a positive LFD to just skip the PCR bit; of course this assumes that everything else is functioning normally and particularly that people are really carefully instructed on what point they should seek out further advice - AIUI the sweet spot for monoclonals is as close as possible to the onset of symptoms *but not before*, but I'm not sure if by "symptoms" they mean the low-grade cold symptoms of a mild case or if it's okay to wait for less-mild symptoms to show themselves. Of course what we actually need is much more sensitive home tests because it *seems* like Omicron doesn't show up on LFDs until you've been contagious for a day or two which is better than nothing but a test system that gives you almost-guaranteed detection of infection as soon as, or even before, you're infectious is the actual way out of this now we've decided that getting our treats is more important than the global pandemic.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:TBH this is probably a sensible way of doing things in an Omicron world - LFDs so rarely false-positive that there's not much point in getting a PCR, or rather not much point leaving isolation to get a test that doesn't actually change the medical situation. If it were the other way round and LFDs tended to throw out false positives and a PCR could confirm you weren't actually infected and so didn't need to isolate then that's a different matter, but you might as well treat a positive LFD as a positive PCR and save the PCR capacity (and risk of infecting other people) for higher-risk cases (e.g. people about to go into hospital for non-covid related treatment where the much more sensitive test is worthwhile). It's pretty much a signal of one of two things America anticipates that this is endemic and it's assumed that most people will have caught it, and it probably does not matter if or how you verify it because it will not impact your treatment or outcome unless you have a severe case or significant comobordities or America anticipates that this is endemic and it's assumed that most people will have caught it, and the medical-insurance complex is working to invent ways to deny your long-covid coverage in the future such as your at-home test is invalid to demonstrate that you factually had it at some point in time I'm just kidding, it's both!
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I’m trying to buy some 3M auras on their website and it is requiring me to “acknowledge that these products are for industrial/occupational use only, and not for consumer sale or use, and verify that I am an industrial/occupational user.” I assume this is just for liability purposes, right? I’m not gonna get screwed over somehow for checking this box fully intending to wear these bad boys wherever my little heart desires?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:If it's following the same pattern as last year (and so far the Thanksgiving dip, post-Thanksgiving spike and Christmas dip have followed the 2020 pattern either exactly or within a day or so of the same dates) then we're still in the Christmas dip and the post-Christmas spike won't start for another day or so. Last year's post-Christmas spike started December 30 and peaked on January 11. That 2021 "Christmas Dip" appears to be less of a "dip" and more of a, uh, "vertical line."
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Cretin90 posted:I’m trying to buy some 3M auras on their website and it is requiring me to “acknowledge that these products are for industrial/occupational use only, and not for consumer sale or use, and verify that I am an industrial/occupational user.”
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I am going to occasionally wear these at work, so I… declare… occupational usage.
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Pinecone Sample posted:Positive tests get passed on to the likes of state health departments or universities, which may sequence yours if it's among any sample that is sent to them. This happened to me and it's how I found out I had omicron. A dude who I gathered is pretty high up in the Miami health department called me up directly to do some digging into how I'd got it, as he was seeing a huge spike in cases & it was mostly the new variant.
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styls trill epic posted:They cut the quarantine time from 10 to 5 days, no federal help whatsoever. Biden's covid response continues to be worse than trumps lol :hmm: Yes... Telling everyone to get vaccinated and boosted and to wear masks is a much worse response than telling people to take bleach and that the virus is no big deal and will be gone in a few weeks you stupid gently caress. CDC is doing a horrible job but they were under Trump as well.
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Wendigee posted:Yes... Telling everyone to get vaccinated and boosted and to wear masks is a much worse response than telling people to take bleach and that the virus is no big deal and will be gone in a few weeks you stupid gently caress. Surprised it took over a page to get someone to bite on that
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I'm a little salty over being told I'm an idiot for advising to use the CDC guidelines as a baseline but be more cautious than what they recommend. Now I'm being proven right by even more people getting sick or worse and it's an awful feeling.
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Instead of the CDC/medical advisors, have you tried putting your trust in Jesus instead?
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They CONTROL the disease... It's in the name!!!
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styls trill epic posted:They cut the quarantine time from 10 to 5 days, no federal help whatsoever. Biden's covid response continues to be worse than trumps lol :hmm: Ok, thanks trump supporter, hope covid wipes out your family.
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beef sweat posted:gently caress the unvaccinated. That's how you get Covid tho Maybe if both wear masks and strictly doggy style, in a well ventilated room... 
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CitizenKain posted:Ok, thanks trump supporter, hope covid wipes out your family.  gottem
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This thread is the exact epicenter of know-it-all goons, snarky comments, and catty slap flights, and I love it. Edit: voted 5
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on my death bed when my grandchildren approach in my final moments they will say "dearest elder, tell us your greatest regret" and I will whisper "not seeing the fourth matrix movie in theaters", then they'll respond "you stupid old gently caress, you suck" and that is what will kill me
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I never thought Trump's surgeon general would be the voice of reason over the CDC but here we are.
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beef sweat posted:gently caress the unvaccinated. I think you'll find it is the unvaccinated who ultimately gently caress us when the 60% IFR Upsilon variant is unveiled at Sturgis '22. CarlosTheDwarf posted:infection+double vax+infection+booster+infection should be your current goal. Gonna do my part and attend one of those stuffy indoor NYE dance parties where you can smell everyone's booze breath the second you enter the room.
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beef sweat posted:gently caress the unvaccinated. One of my uncles is unvaxxed (partly because he's  but mostly because he's a smug contrarian rear end in a top hat) and my aunt has to go in for cancer surgery next month. Not only won't he be allowed in the hospital to visit her at all but he won't be even be allowed to care for her after she's discharged, and my elderly father is thinking about traveling interstate to help care for her.Absolutely loving maddening.
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Driftingmouse posted:https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/grichka-bogdanoff-death-twin-b1983381.html Correction: one of the Bogdanoffs has ascended
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Castaign posted:That 2021 "Christmas Dip" appears to be less of a "dip" and more of a, uh, "vertical line." Yeah we should probably call it an "artificially lowered case reporting period" or something The post-Christmas 'spike' definitely seems to be starting now: https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1475924105891307527 https://twitter.com/GovKathyHochul/status/1475908924964548615 Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Dec 29, 2021 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah we should probably call it an "artificially lowered case reporting period" or something Inaction Acquired Insensibility
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Nearly had our first million global cases day prom candy posted:We'll get there don't worry I forgot to check and it looks like we just topped it a few times around Christmas and then yesterday BOOM  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ The USA alone accounted for over a quarter of that
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Driftingmouse posted:https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/grichka-bogdanoff-death-twin-b1983381.html Fingers crossed that this brings back Bizonacci. He's probably dead, too.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah we should probably call it an "artificially lowered case reporting period" or something Seriously though, the point in the graph marked "Christmas Dip" literally appears to be a straight line leaping straight up. Am I misreading this or is that  ?
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