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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Cojawfee posted:

That's Audrey. Molly is the podcaster.

Oh yeah Molly might be dead then. Molly shoulda blown town. Like that dude was clearly 5 minutes from murdering you, lady.

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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Quoting my one correct bit of speculation and ignoring all the times I was wrong

PostNouveau posted:

I see some speculation that he's going to train Harrison to kill, but I think it's more likely Harrison is a potential victim. He's not a woman, so he doesn't fit the pattern perfectly, but he's treating Harrison exactly like the others.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Rewatching season 4 right now and the only thing I can say is that Detective Lundy is a classy motherfucker who deserves so much more, and I'm pissed to already know that he gets iced.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

itry posted:

Burt Cladwell

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



roomtone posted:

dexter this season has hit a balance between being bad enough to be unintentional comedy, while also being entertaining enough that i'm excited every sunday to watch it.

that's not a common thing. usually bad shows are mostly boring and only funny enough to watch some clips of the highlights on youtube. dexter is consistently ridiculous and badly written while having an interesting plot where i don't care what happens but still have to know what bullshit they have up their sleeves this week.

before it started i thought it was either going to be poo poo or good, not both.
The showrunner always said this was sort of an apology for how bad the show got once he left. I wouldn't put it past him to purposely make the show as fun to watch as possible while including the bullshit that sorta made Dexter more infamous than popular. The reason we look forward to it so much is because very few moments go by where we roll our eyes, groan out loud, or feel the urge to look at our phones. It's (usually) consistently pulling us in. There aren't any B-plots that bore us and they even managed to get the possibly-worst part of the show, Harrison, nailed down so right by hiring a fantastic actor and providing realistic-while-silly writing for him. It does help that the actor is 22 and manages 18 pretty decently.

It is, all said and done, quality television seemingly being goofy on purpose. It's hard to say if this is a fluke or not (the same showrunner did do Season 3 after all) but I think the finale will give us the answer to that.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Oh yeah I almost forgot to laugh at an hour elapsing between Dexter coking out the drug cook and the cops finding him, despite that scene being nothing but smash cuts kicked off by Dexter hearing sirens roll up.

It was already a classic scene but they retroactively made it twice as Dexter.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Oh yeah I almost forgot to laugh at an hour elapsing between Dexter coking out the drug cook and the cops finding him, despite that scene being nothing but smash cuts kicked off by Dexter hearing sirens roll up.

It was already a classic scene but they retroactively made it twice as Dexter.

I also like how earlier in the episode Dexter was able to shift into punch mode because the cops made a siren noise just briefly as they approached despite the fact that they were not there on urgent emergency business, it was just the "watch out Dexter" signal.

This season has been entertaining and it's also fun to laugh at things like that.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

DaveKap posted:

I STILL INSIST THAT HAVING YOUR HEAD GHOST CALL YOU ON THE PHONE IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT

I look forward to someone re-watching the season and informing me that at no point does the head ghost actually talk on the phone and I've somehow constructed a memory to defend myself.

Can anyone link to the old thread(s)?

There's an entire character on best manga ever JoJos Bizarre Advanture that talks to the dude in his head on imaginary phones so it makes sense to me!

The Olmos ruse was also immediately figured out by everyone because the last show he was on was BSG, which had head characters, so you were already thinking about head characters by just looking at him.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Darko posted:

There's an entire character on best manga ever JoJos Bizarre Advanture that talks to the dude in his head on imaginary phones so it makes sense to me!

The Olmos ruse was also immediately figured out by everyone because the last show he was on was BSG, which had head characters, so you were already thinking about head characters by just looking at him.
Then I'll use the fact that I never got to the JoJo part you're talking about and never watched BSG as my defense.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Not gonna give any spoilers because it's only just come out, but E9 is both very tense and also classic Dexter stupid and I love it so much.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Uh, where is the episode?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Not on the showtime app yet, shouldn't be until tomorrow, maybe late tonight.

Just gonna have to watch more Chicky Hines storyline today.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Just gonna have to watch more Chicky Hines storyline today.

Good to brush up on that because the deep lore plays a big role in Episode 9

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Wow, jeez, I thought it was Sunday. This is what happens between semesters.

clown shoes
Jul 17, 2004

Nothing but clowns down here.
I hope y'all are excited to hear Harrison say "Wiggles" a lot.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yup. It's up now. Go go go.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010
So geriatric Kurt's stealthy plan to kill Dexter was to roll up to Dexter's cabin in his gasoline truck, thoroughly hose the cabin down with gasoline, then use the fire pit that was either already burning or start it up himself in order to light a stick on fire that he would use to light the gasoline trail that led to the cabin before clambering up onto his gasoline truck where he'd wait with a laser-scope rifle to pick them off as they came out the front of the cabin and certainly not any other exit.

I love this dumb show.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Among all the stupidity, my favourite thing was Dexter giving his GF a shithouse Christmas gift, not realising it wasn't appreciated, and patting himself on the back for another successful Christmas.

I like it when the show remembers that Dexter is just putting on an act and often doesn't get normal human interactions.


Also, did anyone think that Dexters gift to Harrison was gonna play into the episode? It totally felt like Harrison was gonna end up shooting Kurt, with Dexter watching on approvingly.

Senor Tron fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jan 2, 2022

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

Good episode, overall. It looks like the Billionaire may be a member of the Greatest Game hunt after all with Kurt hinting at it while under the knife? Tune in next week to find out that Batista chops his salad.

TheWeedNumber
Apr 20, 2020

by sebmojo

Ninurta posted:

Good episode, overall. It looks like the Billionaire may be a member of the Greatest Game hunt after all with Kurt hinting at it while under the knife? Tune in next week to find out that Batista chops his salad.

I missed this implication. Now I gotta go rewatch.

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy
probably the best episode of the season. i was smiling like half the time.

the first ten minutes had a lot of fun energy that hasn't been in this season, or really any season, of dexter. dexter was practically giddy all episode.

nice nostalgic touch to add the old OST during the flashbacks, too. kind of interesting that the clown looked exactly like joaqin's joker - it worked cos you can just superimpose that character over the top of this one without any screentime and get all the benefits.

if there's a good finale in this, it's the best season of the show. i might have to rewatch season 1 and 2 at some point, but there was probably a lot of time wasting even in those seasons that this season just hasn't had. there have been some wheel spinning episodes like last week but it's all been relevant.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

TheWeedNumber posted:

I missed this implication. Now I gotta go rewatch.

Yeah I must have missed this too, what's this about?

I'm honestly surprised that Dexter told Harrison everything. The way Ghost Deb was nagging him and how long it dragged on before he actually copped to killing people made me think he was going to get cold feet and cook up some other explanation. It would draw things out and it would be fitting with the show's pattern of Extremely Implausible Lucky Things happening to keep Dexter in the game. His son being in on it really complicates things, it'll take a front seat to literally every plot point now, and as Deb said, "there's no going back."

Also, I missed something else - are we supposed to know who gave Dexter's girlfriend the note saying he killed Matt? Was it Kurt?

Is there only one episode left in this season?

Caros
May 14, 2008

I desperately want a real podcast set in the fictional world of dexter trying to make some sense of the shitshow that was Miami. Like a Serial version of Hardcore Game of Thrones (it isn't porn, I loving swear). Just someone trying to make sense of the bay harbor butcher case through the lens of a serious true crime podcast.

Listen to me showtime. I will pay you actual loving money for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbC0NlushQ

Caros
May 14, 2008

Slamhound posted:

So geriatric Kurt's stealthy plan to kill Dexter was to roll up to Dexter's cabin in his gasoline truck, thoroughly hose the cabin down with gasoline, then use the fire pit that was either already burning or start it up himself in order to light a stick on fire that he would use to light the gasoline trail that led to the cabin before clambering up onto his gasoline truck where he'd wait with a laser-scope rifle to pick them off as they came out the front of the cabin and certainly not any other exit.

I love this dumb show.

This was the best plan. I insist that the music was diegetic too, being blasted from the stereo.

Like it never even occurred to him that they might not be home?

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Caros posted:

I desperately want a real podcast set in the fictional world of dexter trying to make some sense of the shitshow that was Miami. Like a Serial version of Hardcore Game of Thrones (it isn't porn, I loving swear). Just someone trying to make sense of the bay harbor butcher case through the lens of a serious true crime podcast.

Listen to me showtime. I will pay you actual loving money for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbC0NlushQ

Second.

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy
y'know i think they can pretty easily write a way out of all this for dexter

basically, they find kurt's room full of bodies. obviously dexter didn't do all of those, and in fact did none of them. there's no proof linking dexter to matt other than kurt's note and titanium screws, which can easily be explained away by dexter's defense, if it got that far, as kurt's scheme to place the blame for his killings on dexter, after having researched him and discovering with ease that he is dexter morgan victim of the trinity killer who fled miami and had a connection to the bay harbour butcher case. kurt felt the law closing in on him after he killed his own son (you don't even need this part really) and was looking for an escape route.

the BHB stuff is speculation by angela, all of the kurt stuff is explainable as kurt's own crimes. you can get a season out of dexter being under investigation as the BHB which is being newly investigated by angela and batista who get absolutely nowhere!

i mean for once that almost seems more credible than dexter being imprisoned for any of this right now. his life is a house of card, but the actual evidence against him is so thin. a drug dealer says he put a needle in his neck? maybe dexter gets arrested but he'd probably get away with it.

depends on what harrison does next week. they left it ambiguous as to whether he's disgusted or fine, he displayed both reactions.

roomtone fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Jan 2, 2022

Caros
May 14, 2008


For the last year, I've spent every working day trying to figure out where a former Miami Metro Homicide Detective was was for two days in 2003-- or if you want to get technical about it, and apparently I do, where a black ops soldier was for a window of about an hour and a half when wiggles the clown went missing in 2003. This search sometimes feels undignified on my part. I've had to ask about his sex life (the soldier, not wiggles), where, how often, with whom, about a failed drug test, and about a possible illegal mission in Cambodia. I even had to look into something called "Autoerotic Mummifcation".

It is exactly what it sounds like, by the way.

And I'm not a detective or a private investigator. I've not even a crime reporter. But, yes, every day this year, I've tried to figure out the alibi of a man who by definition, did not want people to know where he was or what he was doing. Before I get into why I've been doing this, I just want to point out something I'd never really thought about before I started working on this story. And that is, it's really hard to account for your time, in a detailed way, I mean.

How'd you get to work last Wednesday, for instance? Drive? Walk? Bike? Was it raining? Are you sure? Did you go to any stores that day? If so, what did you buy? Who did you talk to? The entire day, name every person you talked to. It's hard.

Now imagine you have to account for a day that happened six years back, at a time where you may or may not have been working deniable ops for the Army Rangers. Because that's the situation in the story I'm working on in which I have to piece together the very sporadic history of a man who did not want to be found. And it was 2003, so we had to do it without the benefit of texts or Facebook or Instagram. Just for a lark, I asked my producers to try it...

Caros fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Jan 2, 2022

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
I think Dexter's finally going down though probably still alive at end of season, with Harrison taking up the mantle if they ever do another season. They'll probably find the screw that Dexter was given in the wreckage. Granted that is still imperfect evidence since Kurt could well have planted it there but we'll sure see.

This episode was so uncomfortable in a good way. That Christmas scene in particular.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Nep-Nep posted:

I think Dexter's finally going down though probably still alive at end of season, with Harrison taking up the mantle if they ever do another season. They'll probably find the screw that Dexter was given in the wreckage. Granted that is still imperfect evidence since Kurt could well have planted it there but we'll sure see.

This episode was so uncomfortable in a good way. That Christmas scene in particular.


I doubt it.

Kurt murdered Angela's childhood best friend and walked on it. Then in the hours he was released, he murdered the podcast lady. The only thing that stopped him from killing again was Dexter.

My prediction, she confronts him, he eventually fesses up and either accepts it and tries to channel it or, more likely, thinks she can change him/is convinced it is a one time relapse.

SpaceAceJase
Nov 8, 2008

and you
have proved
to be...

a real shitty poster,
and a real james
Need a gif of Dexter mugging at the camera while flicking the clown nose off his face

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Yes. Some good gif candidates in this episode.

For some reason I'm feeling an urge to eat some Doritos™ while playing with a Lenovo™ tablet.

Good call on the podcaster. Unceremoniously offed off screen.

Senor Tron posted:

E9 is both very tense and also classic Dexter stupid and I love it so much.

:hmmyes:

Mister Speaker posted:

Also, I missed something else - are we supposed to know who gave Dexter's girlfriend the note saying he killed Matt? Was it Kurt?

Yeah, it was Kurt. He had the other screw.

Slamhound posted:

So geriatric Kurt's stealthy plan to kill Dexter was to roll up to Dexter's cabin in his gasoline truck, thoroughly hose the cabin down with gasoline, then use the fire pit that was either already burning or start it up himself in order to light a stick on fire that he would use to light the gasoline trail that led to the cabin before clambering up onto his gasoline truck where he'd wait with a laser-scope rifle to pick them off as they came out the front of the cabin and certainly not any other exit.

I love this dumb show.

Caros posted:

This was the best plan. I insist that the music was diegetic too, being blasted from the stereo.

Like it never even occurred to him that they might not be home?

If they were home, they would've heard him drive in. It wasn't a good plan. Guess he got spoiled preying on unsuspecting and defenseless women.

itry posted:


Quoting myself here, but :laffo:
That looked so loving goofy.

Caros posted:

I doubt it.

Kurt murdered Angela's childhood best friend and walked on it. Then in the hours he was released, he murdered the podcast lady. The only thing that stopped him from killing again was Dexter.

My prediction, she confronts him, he eventually fesses up and either accepts it and tries to channel it or, more likely, thinks she can change him/is convinced it is a one time relapse.


Or she tells him he has 24 hours to leave town until she brings the system down on him. Harrison gets to choose if he wants in or out.

Edit:

Ninurta posted:

Good episode, overall. It looks like the Billionaire may be a member of the Greatest Game hunt after all with Kurt hinting at it while under the knife? Tune in next week to find out that Batista chops his salad.

TheWeedNumber posted:

I missed this implication. Now I gotta go rewatch.

If this is about his "I saved them" line, I think that's just alluding to what transient people have to go through. We saw some of it in his flashback. It's just his personal excuse.

But... (next episode synopsis spoilers)

quote:

Dexter and Harrison try to live a normal life in a place that they have discovered is not as normal as they thought it was.
Maybe there really is a secret group of rich people Hard Target(ing) drifters. :tinfoil:

itry fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Jan 2, 2022

Caros
May 14, 2008

Guys. I feel something is wrong.

I'm posting in a Dexter thread. But the show is good. I'm not posting because I hate it. What is this feeling?

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Caros posted:

What is this feeling?

A first season high.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Caros posted:

Guys. I feel something is wrong.

I'm posting in a Dexter thread. But the show is good. I'm not posting because I hate it. What is this feeling?

don't worry there's still a finale to go

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Just watched the first 15 minutes of the episode and this may the most I've legitimately enjoyed Dexter since season 2.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

roomtone posted:

y'know i think they can pretty easily write a way out of all this for dexter

This is a show where the first Google hit for "ketamine miami metro" is a series of confidential and visceral pictures of the Bay Harbor Butcher Morgue, with enough detail to zoom in and identify the sites where the victims were not injected with ketamine.

You're making the classical mistake of assuming that Dexter will get out of trouble in a way that makes sense. If Dexter gets away it's because Angela notices a set of jingling keys and devotes the next week of her life to untangling that, or she finds out he killed Kurt and lets him off with a warning, or she winds up getting herself shot dead through a comedy of errors, or maybe he and Harrison both fake their deaths and hey case closed.

Pretty much every single jam Dexter has been in could have been settled by a perfectly reasonable half-truth, and it never plays out that way.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

This is a show where the first Google hit for "ketamine miami metro" is a series of confidential and visceral pictures of the Bay Harbor Butcher Morgue, with enough detail to zoom in and identify the sites where the victims were not injected with ketamine.

You're making the classical mistake of assuming that Dexter will get out of trouble in a way that makes sense. If Dexter gets away it's because Angela notices a set of jingling keys and devotes the next week of her life to untangling that, or she finds out he killed Kurt and lets him off with a warning, or she winds up getting herself shot dead through a comedy of errors, or maybe he and Harrison both fake their deaths and hey case closed.

Pretty much every single jam Dexter has been in could have been settled by a perfectly reasonable half-truth, and it never plays out that way.

I'd Like to See Ol Dexter Morgan Wriggle His Way Out of THIS Jam!

*Dexter wriggles his way out of the jam easily*

Ah! Well. Nevertheless,

Honestly, She found the dead body of her best friend in a cave with Kurt's skin in her loving teeth and gave up on doing anything about it to brood over her boyfriend lying to her in the very next scene. So yeah, jingling keys is probably fairly accurate.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




No, see, it was his father.
But did we even check if his father was alive or in the area at the time?
Let's just take his word for it.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Honestly, the easiest way for Dexter to wriggle out of things is to say that, yes, he was going to kill the guy who supplied the drugs that almost killed his son.

He worked on the Bay Harbor Butcher case and he used that as "inspiration" for how to successfully kill someone. But, being a lovable goof who has never done anything like this before, he messed it up, panicked and just started wailing on the guy instead.

Of course, that still leaves the guy who manufactured the stuff, and had the needle mark in his neck, but hey, junkies amiright?


EDIT: Dexter should have left the trapdoor open to the Hall of Horrors. Suddenly finding a load of corpses would guarantee Angela would be distracted for a very long time and, even if she still suspected Dexter, might even sympathise with him given how focused* she was on all those missing girls.



* but never enough to actually get off her rear end and do anything about it.

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 2, 2022

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Sep 11, 2001



So I guess we are just gonna ignore how ghost Deb and someone in s7 both said that what Harry did was child abuse? Back to the framing of Dexter as a hero, at least to Harrison. lol Dexter continuing to lie about not murdering his victims is going to blow up in his face spectacularly. Or not. That's Peak Dexter!

lmao Angela you suck at your job. Here's a book on how to cop 101. I did enjoy that someone on the writing staff remembered that Jim is just a cover and Dexter really is that awkward thinking that his gift was a homerun.

:rip: Molly Park and gj to whoever called it earlier.

Caros posted:

I'd Like to See Ol Dexter Morgan Wriggle His Way Out of THIS Jam!

*Dexter wriggles his way out of the jam easily*

Ah! Well. Nevertheless,

100% this. Even Harrison getting freaked out a few times in Kurt's kill bunker didn't amount to anything. He didn't try to stop Dexter or turn on him after he started getting ptsd flashbacks to Rita's death. Some very good writing and some very bad writing this episode. PEAK DEXTER BABY!

Mister Speaker posted:

Also, I missed something else - are we supposed to know who gave Dexter's girlfriend the note saying he killed Matt? Was it Kurt?

Is there only one episode left in this season?

Yes and yes.

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