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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Please, sir. May I have some rice? My children, sir. They need carbohydrates.

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Muscle Wizard
Jul 28, 2011

by sebmojo

everyone i know who can afford it gets their groceries delivered here in america too but when we do it it's with the spirit of honest entrepreneurism i guess.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
I guess they screwed up when they included that case of beer, left-center.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/Blake_Allen13/status/1476199167965999104

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

https://twitter.com/bd_highsmith/status/1476564641585188867?s=20

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

without checking since I so firmly believe in the EU's consistent application of human rights doctrines, I'm sure this new ban will stop imports from the following companies known to use forced penal labour to reduce wages in the US:

Bank of America
Bayer
Cargill
Caterpillar
Chevron
Chrysler
Costco
John Deere
Eli Lilly and Company
Exxon Mobil
GlaxoSmithKline
Johnson and Johnson
K-Mart
Koch Industries
McDonald’s
Merck
Microsoft
Motorola
Nintendo
Pfizer
Procter & Gamble
Pepsi
ConAgra Foods
Shell
Starbucks
UPS
Verizon
WalMart
Wendy’s

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

does Xi's ego have no limits

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
i know this is pretty much propganda type posting but still lmao

like cmon thats malicious as hell

https://twitter.com/XiaoYewen/status/1476506578647801856?s=20

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Liberals so very desperately want to do racism, not even just because they're racist, but because they want to be the Hard Man Making Hard Decisions like when Jack Bauer has to tweet the n word or terrorists will blow up the moon

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Is there an important caveat to the "China bans tattoos in football" story like usual or is it just what it is on its face?

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
No one believed me when I said the German greens were a Langley sock puppet.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


i also subsist on deliveries of vegetables, and i recommend it

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Ardennes posted:

No one believed me when I said the German greens were a Langley sock puppet.

I figured what was coming during the coalition talks

https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1450790951203528711

"The FDP and Greens are, in some ways, similar. They are the two parties that contend for young people’s votes. Both take a strong line on civil liberties and have little time for accommodation with Russia and China"

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

mila kunis posted:

I figured what was coming during the coalition talks

https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1450790951203528711

"The FDP and Greens are, in some ways, similar. They are the two parties that contend for young people’s votes. Both take a strong line on civil liberties and have little time for accommodation with Russia and China"

The Green’s were pushing a far harder line during the election and the critters demanded Baerbock as chancellor, she got foreign affairs through talks which is good enough. She is the German Hillary without irony.

The US has been making an open effort to secure the EU since it is the only way for them to really stay in the game.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 18:34 on Dec 30, 2021

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
not hard since they militarily ocupy the heart of the EU and germany's military and intelligence services are deeply integrated with american hegemony. looks like another win for the USA, germany's brief flirtation with independent foreign policy is probably ending

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Germany having an independent place in the sun is a bit of a concern.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Tankbuster posted:

Germany having an independent place in the sun is a bit of a concern.

Maniacs in DC still more of a concern for humanity at this point. But yeah, Merkel screwed it up.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

joining the diplomatic boycotts this late in the game is just pathetic

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

joining the diplomatic boycotts this late in the game is just pathetic

Be kind, consolidation takes time

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC




Germany: up to US$3.3 / hour

quote:

More than 60,000 inmates in Germany are required to work while in prison. They earn up to three euros an hour maximum – way below the national minimum wage. For big corporations like Daimler or Aldi they're a source of cheap labor.

https://www.dw.com/en/minimum-wage-doesnt-apply-to-you/av-46084003

UK: US$2.7 / hour

quote:

While real work in prison can be beneficial, working prisoners are trapped in state-mediated structures of exploitation: the state has a major role to play in creating and perpetuating workers’ vulnerability by excluding them from protective laws. Prisoners are a vulnerable group, as the European Court of Human Rights has repeatedly ruled, and the authorities have a duty to protect them. That the state creates further vulnerability by excluding them from labour rights should be scrutinised carefully.

In the UK more specifically, the National Minimum Wage Act 1998 excludes working prisoners from its scope. In a report of the Howard League for Penal Reform, it was documented that the average pay for prison service work is £9.60 per week, while it has also been reported that some prisoners work up to 60 hours per week. Certain private companies pay about £2 per hour for prisoners’ labour. The Prisoners’ Service Order 4460 says that prisoners who work for outside employers doing a job that is not in the voluntary or charitable sector have to be paid at least the minimum wage. The distinction between work in prison and work outside prison is not justified though. Private employers get prisoners to work for them in prison, and avoid in this way their obligations to pay the minimum wage (see further here).

Sweden: US$1.43 / hour

quote:

Occupational activity is compulsory at all institutions. This means that you must do something. Compulsory occupational activity also means that you must do something to earn the money you are entitled to when you are at the institution. The law stipulates how much money you are entitled to receive. The current rate is around SEK 13 (US$ 1.43) per hour.

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

They'll probably keep adding junior partners to the diplomatic boycott thing over time then do some kind of joint statement or something right around when the games start to maximize the propaganda effect which is, obviously, the only reason they're doing all this anyways.

I'm just curious to find out if they'll actually go as far as to have biden do a speech and use the G word. Also, if they'll be able to coax the US TV broadcasters into talking about it all the time.

Some Lithuanian athlete with no genuine shot at a medal is gonna run through the opening ceremony with an east turkistan flag and make epic bacon reddit viral history.

Zohar
Jul 14, 2013

Good kitty

Literally the second paragraph

"Baerbock also said she won't attend the Beijing Winter Olympics in February. Yet she made clear that her decision was personal and not the official line of the German government, and that German foreign ministers usually don't attend Olympic games."

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Tankbuster posted:

Germany having an independent place in the sun is a bit of a concern.

they conquered europe without firing a shot

https://twitter.com/michaelxpettis/status/1475437489317986313

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

Zohar posted:

Literally the second paragraph

"Baerbock also said she won't attend the Beijing Winter Olympics in February. Yet she made clear that her decision was personal and not the official line of the German government, and that German foreign ministers usually don't attend Olympic games."

Oh ok lol

Zohar
Jul 14, 2013

Good kitty
Germany's foreign policy line is set in the chancellor's office and not the foreign ministry, so I wouldn't put too much weight on baerbock popping off -- scholtz doesn't seem to want to rock the boat on China. merkel already had a similar thing with maas to some extent.

also I don't think the diplomatic boycott is going to expand much, if they were able to add more countries to make the tiny turnout less embarrassing they would've done it by now. in the EU even the czechs with a more or less overtly anti-china govt have refused to join. Japan was the best shot for another big participants and even they ended up just hedging their bets.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

DiscountDildos posted:

They'll probably keep adding junior partners to the diplomatic boycott thing over time then do some kind of joint statement or something right around when the games start to maximize the propaganda effect which is, obviously, the only reason they're doing all this anyways.

I'm just curious to find out if they'll actually go as far as to have biden do a speech and use the G word. Also, if they'll be able to coax the US TV broadcasters into talking about it all the time.

Some Lithuanian athlete with no genuine shot at a medal is gonna run through the opening ceremony with an east turkistan flag and make epic bacon reddit viral history.

The problem with the propaganda effect is that what they're doing is an unserious response to genocide. This could actually backfire with people who believe the propaganda on Xinjiang. Not that they will see the truth or anything, just that their governments don't give a poo poo.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Zohar posted:

Germany's foreign policy line is set in the chancellor's office and not the foreign ministry, so I wouldn't put too much weight on baerbock popping off -- scholtz doesn't seem to want to rock the boat on China. merkel already had a similar thing with maas to some extent.

also I don't think the diplomatic boycott is going to expand much, if they were able to add more countries to make the tiny turnout less embarrassing they would've done it by now. in the EU even the czechs with a more or less overtly anti-china govt have refused to join. Japan was the best shot for another big participants and even they ended up just hedging their bets.

Baerbock is going to continually push Scholtz in a more and more awkward position and she knows that the government depend on Green votes.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The problem with the propaganda effect is that what they're doing is an unserious response to genocide. This could actually backfire with people who believe the propaganda on Xinjiang. Not that they will see the truth or anything, just that their governments don't give a poo poo.

I kind of doubt they care about the details, I would say the US staking a position is the important element.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 19:51 on Dec 30, 2021

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BluRoofPolitics/status/1476213437101449217

only posting this because im still dumbfounded that predictit thinks the right winger is the favorite when theres no polling data whatsoever supporting that conclusion

lol I put $100 on him two weeks ago because I was anticipating bad things to happen. I'm up ten bucks!

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Lyndon LaRouche posted:

Amnesty International is a loving joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RB7AOplOhM

Zohar
Jul 14, 2013

Good kitty

Ardennes posted:

Baerbock is going to continually push Scholtz in a more and more awkward position and she knows that the government depend on Green votes.

in principle yeah but foreign policy is also generally the single least democratic part of executive decision-making pretty much everywhere in the west and there are a lot of outcomes short of germany becoming a state department puppet

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley

Zohar posted:

at least among moderately well-off people it is really loving prevalent. e.g. in 2015 there was a big protest by the localist groups because the government had made noises about giving residency to a 12-year-old mainlander who'd been living in the city undocumented since he was 3 (the Siu Yau-wai case), they wanted him to be deported and eventually he was forced to leave the city. stuff calling mainlanders bugs and locusts, anchor baby scares and the like were pretty normal since way before occupy central. my personal experience was that the last time I was in HK in 2017-18 one of literally the first things I saw after leaving the airport was a guy screaming at someone calling him a mainlander oval office, and when I was still involved in anti-china stuff at that time I had dinners with activists who would call mainlanders monkeys, dirty and uncivilised etc

yeah didnt one of the main organizers of the protests use his newspaper to take out multi page ads comparing mainlanders to cockroaches?

also im pretty sure the HK fash beat the poo poo out of and maybe even killed a lot of mainlainders and slaves?

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Jose posted:

does Xi's ego have no limits

these people

if it were up to me, here's the thing: a people's civil logistics corps in a red army scale, the great leap forward of mail. everything you need right up at your home, everything you need to send to somebody else handled by a gigantic socialist civil force, taking care of your needs. YOU WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. YOU CANNOT REFUSE. WE WILL HANDLE YOUR GROCERIES AND MEDICATIONS.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

ugh, feeling less free by the second

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


CaptainACAB posted:

yeah didnt one of the main organizers of the protests use his newspaper to take out multi page ads comparing mainlanders to cockroaches?

also im pretty sure the HK fash beat the poo poo out of and maybe even killed a lot of mainlainders and slaves?

going by that, it seems to me that the cpc is actually somewhat lenient to hong kong than appears otherwise to the west

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Liberals so very desperately want to do racism, not even just because they're racist, but because they want to be the Hard Man Making Hard Decisions like when Jack Bauer has to tweet the n word or terrorists will blow up the moon

everyone wants to be samuel l jackson torturing some kids in Unthinkable

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Agrajag posted:

i know this is pretty much propganda type posting but still lmao

like cmon thats malicious as hell
well, from one point of view, the british guards stomping on a kid like that is a "feudal leftover" in modern society. so you still have this lordship stuff and his/her majesty's loyal servants artificially extended to the present. the result is a total freakshow and it can be ghastly even though it wears "civilized" robes.

Zohar
Jul 14, 2013

Good kitty

dead gay comedy forums posted:

going by that, it seems to me that the cpc is actually somewhat lenient to hong kong than appears otherwise to the west

a lot of mainland chinese hate hkers and it's easy to understand why if you think about it from their perspective -- it's a city that's supposedly in your country but still talked about by white people as if it's a colony, which you need an internal visa to visit and, when you do, you'll get treated like poo poo by people calling you bugs and throwing ww2-era racial slurs around. so in that sense the government response is sort of limited compared to what a lot of mainlanders would want, which would be to just abolish all its special privileges and expropriate the tycoons. also why it was a lol that there were people in 2019 who thought the protests had any chance of spreading to the rest of China.

it's lenient when you compare it to mainstream public opinion in China. and going off what I said earlier about how westerners seem to never consider that tiananmen happened under Deng while they complain that Xi isn't like Deng, well, it's notable that he didn't crack down in HK in the way Deng probably would have

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Zohar posted:

lol that there were people in 2019 who thought the protests had any chance of spreading to the rest of China.

this is very much my favorite part of the 2019 events

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

One of the things that I remember making me feel really stupid about the residual empathy I had for the HK protests was when I saw a video of a bunch of the protestors beating up some random dude on his way home from work because they heard him say something like "we're all chinese." I noticed some white dude blocking the door of the apartment building the guy was trying to get into so he couldn't escape which I thought was wild on its own. Why the hell was this random white dude hanging around the perimeter of this mob and throwing himself into the fray to make sure its victims couldn't escape?

Then I saw a tweet down the thread which pointed out that the white dude was Brian Kern, some Amnesty International freak who had recently been outed after writing a book about being an HK dissident or something under a Chinese name and had spent years using that name and a Chinese dudes picture on all his social media.

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Soapy_Bumslap
Jun 19, 2013

We're gonna need a bigger chode
Grimey Drawer
Crying in terror at the idea of eating a vegetable

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