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THS2
Oct 2, 2021

trapped in my apartment eating frozen vegetables and ramen, while my nation has a near zero covid death rate. Hell

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THS2
Oct 2, 2021

R. Guyovich posted:

putting on a bunch of disguises to get extra free rations from the xi'an neighborhood committee

Zohar
Jul 14, 2013

Good kitty

Mirello posted:

lol @ this post doing huge numbers on reddit:https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rsf7k0/aftermath_of_when_the_tanks_left/

it works great. such devastation and destruction! evil ccp murdered so many civilians! except if you zoom in you see all the "bodies" are actually just bicycles, and theres many alive and uninjured people in the picture. the vast majority of people seeing it just upvote or comment without actually looking closely. their phones show tiny thumbnails. propaganda gets lazier and lazier. in a just world, this would be taken down for "misinformation"

I saw a post of a porn video claiming it was from an Uyghur concentration camp get hundreds of upvotes on Reddit one time and people pointing it out were called CCP shills lol

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Mirello posted:

lol @ this post doing huge numbers on reddit:https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rsf7k0/aftermath_of_when_the_tanks_left/

it works great. such devastation and destruction! evil ccp murdered so many civilians! except if you zoom in you see all the "bodies" are actually just bicycles, and theres many alive and uninjured people in the picture. the vast majority of people seeing it just upvote or comment without actually looking closely. their phones show tiny thumbnails. propaganda gets lazier and lazier. in a just world, this would be taken down for "misinformation"

Orbis Tertius
Feb 13, 2007

THS2 posted:

so is the problem that countless less tens of millions of people are dying in China because of lockdowns, and that's bad because in hard times people have to pull together as a society?

they are saving untold amounts of human lives by taking the virus seriously, but at what cost? Inconveniencing some supply chains?

the American political/media system is pathologically focused on “resolving” social problems by manufacturing consent, rather than actually doing poo poo about them, because capitalist ideology is opposed to any government intervention that would decrease people’s reliance on job wages as their means of survival / quality of life. it’s somewhat miraculous that programs like social security still exist.

but to address your question: the mere fact that China actually Does Things makes it an existential threat to western neoliberal systems based on manufactured consent, so it must be constantly maligned.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Orbis Tertius posted:

but to address your question: the mere fact that China actually Does Things makes it an existential threat to western neoliberal systems based on manufactured consent, so it must be constantly maligned.

Their greatest sin is showing that There Is An Alternative.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Orange Devil posted:

Uhmmm excuse me but while those tens of millions might be alive they have no freedom.

this!!!!

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

but can you prove they aren't dead afterwards

checkmate tankies

*moments later*

"millions of american gonna die to covid but that's just science, no one could have foreseen this"

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

AnimeIsTrash posted:

we have a literal clown that sells fatty, sugar laden food to kids

ill have you know that since its theoretically possible to lose weight while eating at mcdonalds that means its not their fault america is fat

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


lol at the part where our sad polack hero has to stop himself from saying christmas because the commies are major belligerents in the war on christmas

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

XMNN posted:

obviously not a particularly surprising thing to learn, but I've been on a ww2 Wikipedia binge recently and found out the guy who the CIA got to write their clean Wehrmacht historiography (Franz Halder) was personally responsible for drafting some of the criminal orders, including the commissar order and the barbarossa decree, which is such an incredibly brazen move you almost have to respect it

they literally got the people who committed the crimes to write the histories of their own crimes and then said yep that's the definitive account, no more questions, now let's give them all guns again because the commies are right across the border and they're going to roll through the fulda gap any day now, and also because we would really like all the war criminals to vote for our buddies

incidentally, you probably already know this, but this is also where a lot of the myths about German and Nazi military superiority come from, is the generals' and officers' memoirs that go on and on about their superior fighting spirit and professionalism and strategic genius against the barbaric Soviet hordes that didn't value human life and just ran at the Germans until they gallantly ran out of bullets and retreated back to Berlin, because of course Nazi generals weren't going to admit that a people they never stopped seeing as subhuman had simply defeated them through superior industry, force of arms, and strategic planning

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

vyelkin posted:

they literally got the people who committed the crimes to write the histories of their own crimes and then said yep that's the definitive account, no more questions, now let's give them all guns again because the commies are right across the border and they're going to roll through the fulda gap any day now, and also because we would really like all the war criminals to vote for our buddies

incidentally, you probably already know this, but this is also where a lot of the myths about German and Nazi military superiority come from, is the generals' and officers' memoirs that go on and on about their superior fighting spirit and professionalism and strategic genius against the barbaric Soviet hordes that didn't value human life and just ran at the Germans until they gallantly ran out of bullets and retreated back to Berlin, because of course Nazi generals weren't going to admit that a people they never stopped seeing as subhuman had simply defeated them through superior industry, force of arms, and strategic planning

History is useful when it teaches us things we can apply. Nothing good came from letting Nazi's live.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
I would say more than that: the Nazis had plenty of fellow travelers who were quiet during the war but were only to happy to start openly supporting them again as soon as Berlin fell.

These guys didn’t write the “definitive history” of the war by accident.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Orange Devil posted:

Their greatest sin is showing that There Is An Alternative.

Yeah, kind of interesting that "Beijing Consensus" concept was invented and went away before China offered BRI, non-US digital ecosystem, phones and tech, Chinese vaccine etc etc. It's a useful term to describe the alternative.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqswus_nvK4

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Ardennes posted:

I would say more than that: the Nazis had plenty of fellow travelers who were quiet during the war but were only to happy to start openly supporting them again as soon as Berlin fell.

These guys didn’t write the “definitive history” of the war by accident.

Oh yeah there were, and are, Nazi's in countries that were not taken over by them.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


All of these people were disappeared, never heard from again.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Some Guy TT posted:

lol at the part where our sad polack hero has to stop himself from saying christmas because the commies are major belligerents in the war on christmas

Lol I missed that part. Its hilarious the lengths they go to. It reminds me I once picked up a boardgame that's supposed to be anti-communist propaganda because it's about queuing up to get your daily needs (its a pretty standard worker placement game), it's just funny how much effort they spend to convince people Communism was so awful, while at the same time the people that make this will insist to you that Communism was never popular and was forced on the people

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

watching a speech from MY president

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

stupid evil china, why not just let lynch mobs run through your city trying to murder Africans based on urban legends and literal just outright lies about them murdering and raping Chinese people, surely that would be better than causing all this litter!

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley

XMNN posted:

obviously not a particularly surprising thing to learn, but I've been on a ww2 Wikipedia binge recently and found out the guy who the CIA got to write their clean Wehrmacht historiography (Franz Halder) was personally responsible for drafting some of the criminal orders, including the commissar order and the barbarossa decree, which is such an incredibly brazen move you almost have to respect it

e: another fun highlight is operation berezino where the NKVD convinced Reinhard gehlen and Otto skorzeny there was a group of Germans trapped behind the Soviet front for months and got them to keep sending commandos by immediately capturing them, then using their radios to say "everything's great, please send more commandos"

The US Army history department for which Halder wrote his bullshit is a primary academic source too and so doing this totally poisoned an entire generation of academic history research.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

sexpig by night posted:

stupid evil china, why not just let lynch mobs run through your city trying to murder Africans based on urban legends and literal just outright lies about them murdering and raping Chinese people, surely that would be better than causing all this litter!

I've seen this brought up a few times and what exactly is it referring to, Jim Crow?

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

KomradeX posted:

I've seen this brought up a few times and what exactly is it referring to, Jim Crow?

There were like 4-5 different groups involved in tiennamen, and one of them was reactionary and anti-africa iirc

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Grapplejack posted:

There were like 4-5 different groups involved in tiennamen, and one of them was reactionary and anti-africa iirc

yeah the protests that eventually coalesced into Tiananmen Square started out with a mass racist backlash against African exchange students. not all the protesters were anti-African but that's what kicked it off

fatelvis
Mar 21, 2010

sexpig by night posted:

lynch mobs run through your city trying to murder Africans based on urban legends and literal just outright lies about them murdering and raping Chinese people

I've seen this mentioned a bunch of times - are there any sources on this? The only other mention of it I saw was someone saying something along the lines of "my teacher was there and said that's what was happening", which isn't exactly concrete evidence.

Actually - if anyone has any recommendations for reading regarding what happened with the buildup and during the Tiananmen square thing, I'd appreciate it.

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

With no access to high fructose corn syrup these Chinese citizens have turned to a meager source of calories that some are calling "vegetables"

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

fatelvis posted:

I've seen this mentioned a bunch of times - are there any sources on this? The only other mention of it I saw was someone saying something along the lines of "my teacher was there and said that's what was happening", which isn't exactly concrete evidence.

Actually - if anyone has any recommendations for reading regarding what happened with the buildup and during the Tiananmen square thing, I'd appreciate it.

there's actually a wikipedia page for it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_anti-African_protests

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

John Charity Spring posted:

yeah the protests that eventually coalesced into Tiananmen Square started out with a mass racist backlash against African exchange students. not all the protesters were anti-African but that's what kicked it off

Funny how that's kept out of what little gets taught about Tiananmen Square in US schools, if they ever get to it

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

!!!!!

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

God drat twitter crop loving sucks poo poo.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

fatelvis posted:

I've seen this mentioned a bunch of times - are there any sources on this? The only other mention of it I saw was someone saying something along the lines of "my teacher was there and said that's what was happening", which isn't exactly concrete evidence.

Actually - if anyone has any recommendations for reading regarding what happened with the buildup and during the Tiananmen square thing, I'd appreciate it.

there's an entire wikipedia page for it, it's a perfectly well known public part of it. The Nanjing protests were a major foundation of what would become Tiananmen Square because much like how you can ask confederate apologists 'states' rights to do what, though?' you can ask a lot of people who call Tiananmen Square a protest about 'democracy and rights' 'rights to do what, though?' because a poo poo load of the 'evil China cracks down on innocent protestors' poo poo was built around China not letting rando college racists just start murdering black people.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
I like that part of the official government response was to limit how many Chinese girlfriends African students could have

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

KomradeX posted:

Funny how that's kept out of what little gets taught about Tiananmen Square in US schools, if they ever get to it

? ? It's right there in the text book. There's a tank, and a man. Tankman. Very detailed. Very clear.

fatelvis
Mar 21, 2010


I didn't know this, thanks.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

They don't even teach kids about Tank Girl in school.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

ikanreed posted:

? ? It's right there in the text book. There's a tank, and a man. Tankman. Very detailed. Very clear.

how could megaman do this to democracy

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Benagain posted:

I like that part of the official government response was to limit how many Chinese girlfriends African students could have

direct action gets the goods

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Hello pyf :yosbutt:

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007


What they won't tell you is that each of those empty bicycles was full only a few moments before; the aliens that run the "forbidden city" (it's forbidden because it's a UFO and humans aren't allowed to see advanced tech) abducted them

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