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Megillah Gorilla posted:Not gonna lie, I truly though that prediction was some stupid fearmongering. The fact that Perrotet even felt comfortable enough to say that figure per day out loud near a microphone, much less making it part of a formal statement, means that is the absolute best figure he was presented with and was almost certainly given figures that were a LOT worse than that. Dunno how he's stupid enough to not have realised LNP politicians don't ever have to take a meaningful stand on any issue, ever, unless they want to? The stenographers calling themselves journalists in this country will happily run interference and "what if he actually said or meant this other thing he didn't say or mean, also Labor bad" articles 24/7 for them so why would you ever give out a concrete figure per day that people can very easily compare it against. Dumb as gently caress even for an LNP politician. Fortunately for him it will make absolutely gently caress all difference at the ballot box
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JBP posted:People whose families have long abandoned them. Can confirm, we cut ties with father in law and he has literally no family left in his life now and it's exactly the sort of poo poo he laps up.
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Goffer posted:Hospitalisations / icu / ventilators got up to 1268 / 242 / 123 last outbreak. Yeah, hospitalisation lags infection, death lags hospitalisation. I expect the hospitalisation graph will follow the infection curve and then the death curve will follow that.
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dr_rat posted:Maths is truly the enemy of us all. Fixed that for you.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Fixed that for you. I was talking about math singular. One math. That is our enemy 
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dr_rat posted:I was talking about math singular. Which one?
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BrigadierSensible posted:Which one? This sounds suspiciously like something someone who's aligned themselves with that one bad math would say.
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What is the desired or projected end to this from the government? What could they possibly hope to achieve by just letting the virus run rampant? The obvious answer is that there isn't any and that this is all panicked reopening to placate business, but until recently the authorities have been relatively decent at considering COVID to be a threat to public health and safety. Now they've given up and I have to wonder what they were told, what secrets were revealed in some cabinet meeting, to get them to openly embrace this complete rejection of responsibility. Even if you question whether COVID-zero is possible, it's clear that we're only making things so much worse than they need to be, and I have to think that there is at least some motive behind all of this, for this opening to be seen as somehow more preferable than continuing lockdowns. It doesn't need to be good, there is no excuse for what institutions are doing to us in this moment of crisis, but there just needs to be something.
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Sierra Madre posted:What is the desired or projected end to this from the government? What could they possibly hope to achieve by just letting the virus run rampant? The obvious answer is that there isn't any and that this is all panicked reopening to placate business, but until recently the authorities have been relatively decent at considering COVID to be a threat to public health and safety. Now they've given up and I have to wonder what they were told, what secrets were revealed in some cabinet meeting, to get them to openly embrace this complete rejection of responsibility. Even if you question whether COVID-zero is possible, it's clear that we're only making things so much worse than they need to be, and I have to think that there is at least some motive behind all of this, for this opening to be seen as somehow more preferable than continuing lockdowns. It doesn't need to be good, there is no excuse for what institutions are doing to us in this moment of crisis, but there just needs to be something. I think it's more likely that it's pure incompetence, lack of inability to forward plan and flailing about, but if I had to think of a tinfoil hat conspiracy reason it would be the appearance of Omicron providing an opportunity to 1) gamble that it outcompetes delta and is just a mild cold, vindicating everything pro business live with the virus types have hoped for over the last 2 years and 2) if this doesn't work, claim that the disaster is because Omicron was just so virulent nobody could do anything about it so it's not our fault. Also years and years of politics teaching the right that never apologising or admitting any mistakes is a strength and you will never face any consequences for this. ModernMajorGeneral fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Dec 31, 2021 |
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Sierra Madre posted:What is the desired or projected end to this from the government? What could they possibly hope to achieve by just letting the virus run rampant? The obvious answer is that there isn't any and that this is all panicked reopening to placate business, but until recently the authorities have been relatively decent at considering COVID to be a threat to public health and safety. Now they've given up and I have to wonder what they were told, what secrets were revealed in some cabinet meeting, to get them to openly embrace this complete rejection of responsibility. Even if you question whether COVID-zero is possible, it's clear that we're only making things so much worse than they need to be, and I have to think that there is at least some motive behind all of this, for this opening to be seen as somehow more preferable than continuing lockdowns. It doesn't need to be good, there is no excuse for what institutions are doing to us in this moment of crisis, but there just needs to be something. Some of the modelling I saw suggests that cases will peak then start declining in late feb. just in time for them to be able to loudly announce declining numbers and take the credit. Is it a smart plan? No, but it's legitimately the only thing I can think of without assuming they all have fetal alcohol syndrome.
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Lockdowns without the goal of covid 0 is tremendously unpopular and I reckon contact tracing and PCR testing has gotten too hard so they've just packed it all in This was always the endgame when we decided that vaccinations would solve covid. Now the vaccinations are done and it's a case of well, this is what life is like now, good luck boys
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BrigadierSensible posted:In the new Palmer United Party Youtube ads, you have a charismaless Craig Kelly reading out a message about how Christmas is a time for family and unity and freedom blah blah blah. No, that’s the old one. The *new* new one is about New Years. No, I haven’t watched either. Why would... anyone?
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abigserve posted:Lockdowns without the goal of covid 0 is tremendously unpopular and I reckon contact tracing and PCR testing has gotten too hard so they've just packed it all in I'm strangely ok with this. It's a pandemic. Peeps gonna die. Sucks. Do what you can to minimise your risk yada yada. Not sure how else it would go in the long term. Edit- yes the pollies could have put a lot more in place knowing this was coming. They didn't. Hope we vote those lib cunts out shortly. Aware fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Dec 31, 2021 |
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Not crashing our health system for everyone including non-covid might have been a start but ymmv
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Sierra Madre posted:What is the desired or projected end to this from the government? What could they possibly hope to achieve by just letting the virus run rampant? The obvious answer is that there isn't any and that this is all panicked reopening to placate business, but until recently the authorities have been relatively decent at considering COVID to be a threat to public health and safety. Now they've given up and I have to wonder what they were told, what secrets were revealed in some cabinet meeting, to get them to openly embrace this complete rejection of responsibility. Even if you question whether COVID-zero is possible, it's clear that we're only making things so much worse than they need to be, and I have to think that there is at least some motive behind all of this, for this opening to be seen as somehow more preferable than continuing lockdowns. It doesn't need to be good, there is no excuse for what institutions are doing to us in this moment of crisis, but there just needs to be something. The secret is 90% of people in ICU in victoria are unvaccinated and vic labor, nsw lib and federal lib are all taking the same approach because we're highly vaccinated. There is no massive mystery behind this, we weren't vaccinated before, now we all are, this was always the end goal and people are just finding it weirdly hard to deal with because they prefer the previous approach of confining large covid outbreaks to migrant heavy areas with lots of essential workers and then just sending the police in to harass everyone while pretending it's some brilliant sustainable long term solution. Boosters will begin to rollout even more widely next month and we'll be in an even better position than we are now to fight omicron while keeping things open.
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Are you really saying that saving minority neighbourhoods and spreading the burden more evenly across society because we know for sure the vaccinations will save us is the Liberal motivation for opening up?
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One doctor in South Africa said the few people she had treated who were getting sick with omicron were all quite young so they had mild cases. That was taken and signal boosted to the loving moon to mean covid was over and Let 'er Rip. Now we're here, you're welcome Australia.
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Maybe the reason none of the sane non-Dom premiers are willing to get off Mr Toad's Wild Ride is they're looking at steady declines in health system staffing numbers since March 2020 and they think flattening the curve won't work because hospitals are going to have no staff in six months anyway. I can't come up with an alternate explanation for why they're willing to slam the hospitals like this.
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Sierra Madre posted:What is the desired or projected end to this from the government? What could they possibly hope to achieve by just letting the virus run rampant? The obvious answer is that there isn't any and that this is all panicked reopening to placate business, but until recently the authorities have been relatively decent at considering COVID to be a threat to public health and safety. Now they've given up and I have to wonder what they were told, what secrets were revealed in some cabinet meeting, to get them to openly embrace this complete rejection of responsibility. Even if you question whether COVID-zero is possible, it's clear that we're only making things so much worse than they need to be, and I have to think that there is at least some motive behind all of this, for this opening to be seen as somehow more preferable than continuing lockdowns. It doesn't need to be good, there is no excuse for what institutions are doing to us in this moment of crisis, but there just needs to be something. It's to normalise you and everyone around you catching the coronavirus because there's no neoliberal model out of this
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Happy New Year you bastards. My partner’s about to go into labour without me but that’s fine because we gotta let’r rip!
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ShoeFly posted:Happy New Year you bastards. gently caress, that's rough. Sorry you're in this situation. Happy New Year everyone.
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ShoeFly posted:Happy New Year you bastards. This is frankly the least respectful euphemism for an episiotomy I've ever read, and I for one am appalled.
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Hashy posted:It's to normalise you and everyone around you catching the coronavirus because there's no neoliberal model out of this Pretty much this. I don't think there is an alternative out of where we are now. Contact tracing is busted, due to overwhelming numbers. Testing is busted due to overwhelming numbers. Isolation isn't helpful if you don't find out you need to isolate until 7 days after exposure. Health care is about to bust due to declining staff availability and overwhelming numbers. States are desperately pushing care of COVID patients on to GPs but providing no resources to do so. It's hosed, and there are a lot of ways it could have been avoided, but we are beyond fixes now. Lockdowns probably won't make much of a dent, masks will help somewhat and booster shots will hopefully keep the effects of the disease relatively mild. But the virus is becoming endemic, hospitalisations and deaths will inevitably rise. e: I guess the one thing that PCR testing can help with is identifying a new strain when it appears. God help us if something as virulent as Omicron but as deadly as Delta suddenly starts spreading. Capt.Whorebags fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Dec 31, 2021 |
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God remember when Western Sydney was locked down but the Eastern Suburbs weren't? Never seen a gov be so honest about who they care about and who must suffer. Last couple of days have really crystallised my desire to gaol all members of the Liberal party
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That neo-liberals want you to die for capitalism is such a poorly kept secret, but its still eerie seeing it so front and centre for the whole world to see. I hope those franking credits were worth it you selfish pack of cunts. Happy New Year! Going to be a 6 to 8 weeks to remember!
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Can't post this to r/australia for some reason. I don't know why. Is this the normal price for a Rapid Antigen Test? I was assured by the Prime Minister and his party it wouldn't cost much. Perhaps it's a price rise for the new year? How much does it cost elsewhere in Australia? They're free in the UK. (Please be nice to anyone at the Till, the only one's responsible for this are the LNP and their corporate donors).
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Comstar posted:
You saved $7.20 off the normal recommend retail price, i'm not sure what your complaining about. (did a quick google search and while there is a few places selling cheaper, apparently pretty much yeah.  )
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It might not mean much to the plague states of the south (PSOTS) but QldHealth threw in the towel today
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Comstar posted:Can't post this to r/australia for some reason. I don't know why. thats normal-ish in australia but absurdly high compared to some other countries
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Comstar posted:Can't post this to r/australia for some reason. I don't know why. I got a 10 pack for $99 a week or so ago in central Vic...
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tfw you wake up from the night before and realise that the fever dream you had of Tina Arena singing It's Time to go to Church and then murdering Back in Black and then Charlie Pickering introducing George Michaels Freedom as "the song that sums up how we are all feeling right now", wasn't actually a fever dream
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Don't test, just go cough on your local MP and see if they get sick. If they do and get covid then you will have you answer and will be out of the required iso period anyway so can go on living your life.
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Why did Tina arena sing back in black Why did that happen Have we not yet suffered enough?
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Synthbuttrange posted:thats normal-ish in australia but absurdly high compared to some other countries I've only ever paid $10 per test.
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starkebn posted:It might not mean much to the plague states of the south (PSOTS) but QldHealth threw in the towel today this is really loving depressing given that I work essential retail and my partner works in aged care. They sort of implied they were doing this a couple of days ago but this is even worse than what they said in the press conference last week. I will embrace our absorption into the great plague state known as "the east"
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Comstar posted:Can't post this to r/australia for some reason. I don't know why. That’s cheap for a 5 pack.
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I got 20 for $169 on Thursday from a sleep clinic in Ashfield.
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