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Somebody posted earlier in the thread that halfway through the game the writer left and was replaced. I think it shows. The setup was great and the characters too. But yeah, it goes nowhere and then just ends. Also, you better not be talking bad about Maurgueritte, she’s the best part of the entire game. 
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Dec 9, 2021 16:35
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I enjoy Subnautica Below Zero because it’s more Subnautica. I want to explore, find resources, build new and cool things, explore creepy underwater alien worlds, and try not to get eaten along the way. Story enjoyment is nice but secondary to that experience for me. They hit a home run with the story in the first game, it was always going to be a hard act to follow, even if the writer wasn’t replaced. I hope we get a Subnautica 3 some day, and I’ll buy it day one.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:43
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Yeah, BZ was still worth it because there are no alternatives if you like the Subnautica experience Still there's no denying the whole game was a huge step down from the first one. I'm hoping they actually follow through with the unified code base thing
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Dec 9, 2021 16:59
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With a few minor changes to the story, and a re-work of the ice zone, I think BZ would end up as the superior game. People seem to ignore all the major flaws of the first game, while only focusing on the flaws of BZ, in my opinion.
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Dec 9, 2021 19:47
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Terrible writing aside, I think BZ could have done with a slight rework/expansion of all existing zones. More than anything I would have liked to see the entire glacial basin removed and one more large biome added below the crystal caves as the final area. I have been chasing the dragon for that feeling the first time actually trekking into the lost river in the first Subnautica, and then finding a deeper and more dangerous area below that. Still never found anything close
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Dec 9, 2021 21:03
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General Battuta posted:The writer got replaced and if you check out his Reddit account the reasons why are pretty obvious. I love how in one linebreak it goes from "yeah, pretty basic observation about power structures in human history" to corona conspiracy that doesn't connect at all.
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Dec 9, 2021 21:07
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The composer for OG Subnautica got fired, too, though he had finished the score by that time. Ben Prunty was hired for BZ. He's good, though I haven't heard his BZ work. Dude's done FTL, Into the Breach, and Darkside Detective.
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Dec 9, 2021 22:36
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They should make a sequel with the exact same map where you’re the Alterra rep sent to gene-mine the whole thing.
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GD_American posted:They should make a sequel with the exact same map where you’re the Alterra rep sent to gene-mine the whole thing. I’d settle for a prequel with the Torgal family/Marguerite and her  fight with a reaper. BZ brought in bad weather, which was a nice touch. The first game I was paranoid about storms and such for a while after reading some of the Torgal’s logs, but those just never materialized.
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Dec 9, 2021 23:42
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I finished the base game today. It was an enjoyable game for sure, despite the jank. My main issue would be that the game really doesn't direct you very much in terms of how to finish the story. I basically had to read ahead about what you need to do, because otherwise you just have to poke around, and when you get down into the lower depths that gets pretty dangerous.
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Dec 11, 2021 01:19
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FlamingLiberal posted:I finished the base game today. It was an enjoyable game for sure, despite the jank. That is the point of the late stages of an exploration game, yes. You're not going to help yourself by staying safe in the shallows...
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Dec 11, 2021 02:04
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Anyone play Stranded Deep? It seems similar...?
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Anyone play Stranded Deep? It seems similar...? I enjoyed it. It's probably the closest I've come to recapturing the fresh Subnautica experience. The sharks gave me similar reaper thalassophobia vibes and building a fully stocked raft is a lot like building out a cyclops base.
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The combat that’s necessary to complete Stranded Deep is the jankiest poo poo ever and I only completed it out of spite
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How do you write on Subnautica and then disregard a pandemic?OgNar posted:I never figured out where everyone went in BZ, did they all leave because of one death? Well, the base was already going downhill beforehand. Most of the original scientists got reassigned to a nowhere post doing nothing jobs to keep them out of the way. And then Margaret blew up Omega Lab, destroying the last active research project and maybe killing more people. Possibly Alterra might've also wanted to do some covering up after what happened, but that part's unclear.
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From what I read, the team wasn't even specialized for microbiology research at the level that Kharaa demanded but they got repurposed when the frozen leviathan was uncovered because they were there and it was cheap. 4546B is still on the rear end end of the universe, after all, and ships are expensive. Since Alterra was sending out a ship for the incident investigation then it was just efficient to bring all the samples that they cared to take back with them along and pull out the people because the previous research was scientifically interesting but not profitable and hey the ship was there anyway.
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Made my hardcore escape just now. Never really had any near miss death moments. Though that drat sea dragon outside the primary facility snuck up behind my prawn and scared the loving poo poo outta me, but I got away easily. Was fun, might try hardcore below zero next. Can’t believe you don’t even get an achievement for it, lol.
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Dec 19, 2021 23:48
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Lol, my first attempt at BZ hardcore ended spectacularly with my dumbass getting roasted alive. I went after some diamonds early on in one of those active volcano vents near the delta station. I knew it was dicey but I didn’t pack enough med kits and forgot how fast getting roasted depletes your health. Gonna try again and maybe wait for a prawn suit before going after them!
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Cartoon Man posted:Lol, my first attempt at BZ hardcore ended spectacularly with my dumbass getting roasted alive. I went after some diamonds early on in one of those active volcano vents near the delta station. I knew it was dicey but I didn’t pack enough med kits and forgot how fast getting roasted depletes your health. Gonna try again and maybe wait for a prawn suit before going after them! My first hardcore (not bz) run died to harvesting acid mushrooms at low health. I made a beeline for grow beds as soon as I started thinking I was being clever
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Take 2 is going much better. I got my first couple diamonds by taking my new seatruck to 150 meters in the twisty bridges trench, then free diving to the bottom. One of those rear end in a top hat squidhead giant sharks took a bite outta me but I was quick with the first aid kit and got the hell outta there.
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Cartoon Man posted:Take 2 is going much better. I got my first couple diamonds by taking my new seatruck to 150 meters in the twisty bridges trench, then free diving to the bottom. One of those rear end in a top hat squidhead giant sharks took a bite outta me but I was quick with the first aid kit and got the hell outta there. One piece of advice: Pay attention to cold damage once you start running into it. It's pretty easy to deal with if you pay attention, but there are a handful of spots where you can realize you've run just a few steps too far a few seconds too late. Mazz fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Dec 21, 2021 |
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Dec 21, 2021 02:38
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I tried heading the cold suit off at the pass by pre getting fur but they thought of this and no Pengu bot is allowed in Margs base to harvest her pet.
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I know I'm late to the game... I'm still playing Subnautica and haven't touched BZ. But I randomly found a cuttlefish egg and it has made everything whimsical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRh8vRt6evw
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Now I just gotta find that lost river research place
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Okay, where the hell am I supposed to go from the bridge area to finish the story in BZ? I managed it in beta, but I can't figure out what I'm supposed to be doing and nothing is pointing me anywhere that I can see. I swear I've prawned and foxed all over the place forever. BZ is fun but this above ground snowy area sucks.
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Vasler posted:Okay, where the hell am I supposed to go from the bridge area to finish the story in BZ? I managed it in beta, but I can't figure out what I'm supposed to be doing and nothing is pointing me anywhere that I can see. The body parts that you need are located in the following places: 1: Deep in a giant spore filled trench below the lily pad area. 2: At the far side of the snowy tundra area that is accessed by fixing the bridge. If giant worms are attacking your in the right place. Bring your prawn suit to cheese it, gently caress the snowfox. Drop a beacon at the entrance to the area and keep heading as far away from it as possible. Look for green lights that signify architect stuff. 3: Deep in the underwater purple crystal caves guarded by shadow leviathans. Best entrance to the area is located under Marguerite’s underwater pirate base. Hopefully you’ve gotten that far. Look for a central cathedral type area in the purple crystal section. Once you’ve got all three parts: bring the Ingredients to make the body back to the purple caves and keep exploring till you find the entrance to the red crystal caves. Far at the back of that final area is the facility to make the body. Once you made the body head to the portal behind outpost Zero. Your optional objective is to cure the frozen leviathan. You get the recipe for that in a hidden robot penguin cave in the area that has the stalkers. All you get is an achievement and a bit of story closure for your dead sister that the writers phoned in… Cartoon Man fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jan 1, 2022 |
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Apparently I totally bypassed the frozen leviathon part  .
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So did a bunch of people. That's part of the knock against the game and clear evidence that they changed writers partway through.
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The part that I got stuck on was I somehow missed the scannable hydraulic fluid on the bridge so I spent hours searching every lab and dig site for the drat recipe before googling it.
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I never even thought of taking the prawnsuit on land. That makes a whole lot of sense, I guess. You can already cheese things enough with the Snowfox since the snowworms barely do any damage to you, and they just kinda knock you off the snowfox, you can get a frantic but unchallenging experience finding and getting right back on the snowfox every time you get thrown off. I kinda though while playing that since there was a datalog talking about thumpers The land areas do suck though. It's weird how so much of the game is big, open water areas, but then they want you to go throw winding box canyons. They didn't need to make the land very open, since players are often satisfied with walking slower speeds on land than swimming in water, but you can't make it so closed just for no reason when the rest of the game is so different.
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Cartoon Man posted:The body parts that you need are located in the following places: I was able to find the frozen leviathan in the beta but I can't find it in the release version. This snow area is ridiculous. I'm done with the body part stuff but I wanted to get whatever closure I could before I finished the game.
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Here’s an overly complicated guide: https://www.ign.com/wikis/subnautica-below-zero/Finding_and_Curing_the_Frozen_Leviathan Don’t use the snowfox, just take the prawn.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:https://twitter.com/HannaBarberaCap/status/1477142558371368960?t=Ec4BFVhfU66K6VJ3oTajrA&s=19 Pod 6 are still jerks, no matter where in time they are
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Icon Of Sin posted:Pod 6 are still jerks, no matter where in time they are I still think the thread title should be Subnautica: Well, pod 6 WAS jerks...
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I couldn’t help myself. Started a hardcore run. Played six hours last two days, already have moonpool, seamouth, and about to start going deep. My favorite part in the game. By avoiding most radio transmissions, I’ve seemed to actually avoid advancing the story too much? Which honestly, is fine with me. One question. Never used the bio reactor before. What’s the best things to put into it to power my base?
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I usually go with an under-water grow bed with a kelp in it. It’s not the most efficient by a long shot, but who cares when you have infinite fuel?
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Ardeem posted:I usually go with an under-water grow bed with a kelp in it. It’s not the most efficient by a long shot, but who cares when you have infinite fuel? I have a grow bed with the bulbs you need for the gel. I’m throwing those in right now
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