Mirificus posted:

Rotten Red Rod posted:

The one that is the funniest to me is the Nautilus, introduced 2 years ago at a big backer event, and still isn't in the game, its core mechanics (minelaying) still aren't in the game, and there's no hint at all even HOW minelaying would actually work in the game. Yet citizens still talk about it on the subreddit like it's a viable ship that fulfills an important role in their "fleet".

The Titanic posted:

Seems like a fairly large segment of the population believes that the game is going to be like a movie, obviously because this is all the marketing, and all the "realism" cig pumps into it.

However, by the time your ship is on fire, in the middle of a heated battle, and you have to go away from the cockpit and flying the ship to go put out a fire you're going to be dead.

Probably also, anybody on your ship who is doing that action is probably already thinking "if I a had my ship we would have 2x the firepower and not be in this situation in the first place", before both of them end up playing the respawning in your wankpod animation.

Maybe you could get this experience on a capital ship... but it won't be a cinematic experience either. It'll be a crazy thing where people are just non-fidelitously running around with whatever the repair laser is and shooting the walls.

But I guess you can dream, huh?

Torquemada posted:

Playing devil’s avocado, I’m kinda surprised how many of those are in. For a certain value of in, obviously.

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Capital 8% flyable (1)

Large 57% flyable (17)

Medium 88% flyable (21)

Small 92% flyable (54)

Snub 64% flyable (7)

Vehicle 65% drivable (13)

Core ships 65% flyable/drivable (61)

Variants 84% flyable/drivable (52)

Mirificus posted:

fire spreading through the ship and you have to leave your seat mid battle to extinguish it before it reaches the power drive or you're dead.
meeting alien civilizations
engineers having to learn the ships technical build in order to reroute power to certain relais depending on the situation, making sure the crew can survive
your own persistent quarters, hangar, habs, outpost, where all the stuff you gather will remain untill needed.
fuel, component, weapon, and ship prices all dependant on the ingame economy
triggering the most peaceful player into a cold blooded killer or he or she will lose his/her ship
org warfare
your own ship names and interiors, together with modular components, engineering gameplay, skins, outer hull wear, and battle scars making it truly your ship
100 star systems which you can visit with that ship
finding an abandoned temple or derilict spacecraft on a wild planet which you can explore
visiting a small outpost on a distant moon from an outer system
pirates trying to board your ship after they've disabled it, and you gearing up to counter them
alien animals and primitive intelligence
walking on board a docked 890 jump for a luxury mission
hacking a terminal to get valuable data back to the boss, 6 star systems away.
sending probes out to the far edge of a new found system mapping it on your holotable
loading your magazine before battle with a valkyrie on the background
boarding a derilict reclaimer
landing on a jungle planet
NPC's with full on scedules and outfits hinting where they're from.
Flying through canyons!
...

trucutru posted:

Right now the Drake doors are hardcoded to be Chaotic Evil (that's why they kill you sometimes) while RSI's are Lawful Neutral. Soon they'll be able to better reflect their actions.

(Actually I believe it means that ramps and so on will extend just enough not to clip through the ground, as they often do now, depending on the terrain. Riveting super advanced stuff that's really hard to code)

Prop Wash posted:

My job in star citizen will be sheet metal mechanic. I will travel from planet to planet repairing the damage that these people cause to their ships by lowering the cargo ramp directly onto rocks and debris. See you in the verse!

Thoatse posted:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InfatuatedSilentHadrosaurus-mobile.mp4

The Titanic posted:

However, by the time your ship is on fire, in the middle of a heated battle, and you have to go away from the cockpit and flying the ship to go put out a fire you're going to be dead.

BitBasher posted:

I started typing an effortpost that began with essentially this line, but deleted as it was like pissing in the wind.

If someone is crew and them getting up to to go put out a fire means the ship survives then pick a scenario:

• They were doing nothing useful at all in combat so by the ship catching on fire they not have something to do, instead of just sitting there
  
• They were doing something important and the ship is going to die because they aren't doing it anymore because they got up to put out the fire while the ship is still getting shot to gently caress
  

There is no successful scenario here.

A *lot* of these bullshit scenarios people have only work in movies and not at all if both sides of a fight have agency. Exploration doesn't meaningfully work at all in an MMO, or it's all mediocre radiant quest bullshit.

I mean If there are 99 systems the number people that get to find a new one are 98 at absolute most. Total. 98 total people forever.

Derelicts work okay a few times in NMS, but then they are samey.

Almost all of the game theorycrafting is them asking the wrong questions. It's them asking "If I flap my arms hard enough to fly to the moon, can I breathe when I get there?" and I have news, what you are going to breathe isn't remotely the practical flaw in your plan, man. It's not even a consideration.

The Titanic posted:

I think people just kind of hope that cig is going to accidentally make a good sea of thieves or barotrauma or bridge Commander, despite none of the things they have after 10 years coming together in that way.

Kind of like you just sort of patch in VR and it works great just because they want vr one day.

I think nobody realizes that where cig is hugely deficient is the area that will prevent all these concepts from working.

That area is design.

Just having an idea is not designing out how it will work or incorporate with everything else around it.

You don't just say "oh and scrapper ships will scrap other ships!" and you have this huge amount of work already done for how it functions and needs to be coded.

trucutru posted:

Lol, there is like a couple of hours left before the year ends and there is still no letter from the chairman. So of course the backers are now writing letters to him pleading ro be given any info, no matter how little, about the game they have sunk half a billion in.

Happy new years fudster, let's hope this one is much better than 2021, shouldn't be that hard to be honest

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Chris Roberts, pulling a Sean Murray, is a good thing.

He might be focusing his optimism on where it really matters - his team. The one's who need the most faith and stand to benefit the most from it, in these difficult times.

You see... The community is going through repeated cycles of grief brought on by a hype marathon of unprecedented duration, and the words of Chris Roberts are a balm - They make us feel better for a few days, then the next roadmap gutting... the next bug, the next nerfing of a meta will just wipe those words clean off, like yesterday's movie episodes. It's just going to backfire on the chairman, by fanning cynicism.

Roberts Space industries gives us the tools to manage our own grief - Monthly reports, comprehensive roadmaps, that let us piece together the bigger picture at our own leisure.
If you lay bare a project like that, all that the cycles of grief exudes is ignorance.

And Chris Roberts chairman letters might as well be words thrown into the wind under such conditions.

It has reached a point where only results will penetrate the mire of cynicism, on which enthusiasm, faith and optimism have long rang hollow.
He will talk once the action steps he laid out, has been taken. Until then, it's just asking a horde of angry dogs to calm down.

It is almost as if we are pledging money to expect Chris Roberts to write a letter just so we can use it to spit on his face. "Answer the Call 2016" we keep rubbing in his face, as if he pissed us off on purpose with naught but calculated contempt, or deliberate incompetence.

No. If we're backing, let us back. Backing does not mean buying the license to be a douchebag to someone who failed your specific standards.

Backing means having someone's back. Writing a Chairman's Letter is a courtesy. A formality. We definitely have not given CIG the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt, where it is due - Namely that they are trying.
So in a way, I do not see why we deserve a Chairman's letter, even though it is a professional courtesy.


But that's just my 2 Doge.

Mirificus posted:

fire spreading through the ship and you have to leave your seat mid battle to extinguish it before it reaches the power drive or you're dead.

Mellow_ posted:

Why is everything they want SO BORING.

Yeah, that's what I wanna do when I'm having a bad-rear end space dogfight, have to get up and grab the fire extinguisher.

Super future tech ITYOOL 2948 and yet somehow the knowledge of fire suppression has been lost...

Lammasu posted:

Fire suppression in an all metal environment.

Mellow_ posted:

Also where any hull breach just means no more oxygen.

Hell, assuming the ship can just lock an airlock on the cockpit and open the doors or some poo poo to gently caress the fire off.

Rugz posted:

Some of them are way past that and already on the 'Its our fault, we don't deserve his words' stage.

The full on cult classic. 'The aliens did not arrive to take us to the next plane of existence because we displeased them'

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And when he does show up how much stir does it make as many start tearing apart statements by the syllable? Any date he has given on the fly has been way wrong. He usually has few details to offer just broad view goals. 18 month proof of life posts seem like the best course IMO.

Shazback posted:

Gotta admit I've never heard of Star Citizen having problems getting people's money...
Praise Chris for saving the PC gaming market!

Prize goes to second place guesser Dark Off then:

Rugz posted:

The only games I have ever seen 'stop doing your job which stops us being hosed and go and fix this thing loving us up' work in are the hyperniche ones like SS13 and I don't think any Citizens are going to appreciate Jingles the Clown space lubeing the mess hall of their pride and joy.

The Titanic posted:

quote:

“I realize that some people who "play to have fun" and who currently form the majority of players have voiced their reservations toward these new trends, and understandably so. However…”

Mirificus posted:

Azubah posted:

The press F for respects was the Kevin Spacey game, I understand if you memory holed that jackass and anything associated with him.

orcane posted:

Wait please tell me this is a joke

Plan R posted:

In Warframe, using the Railjack, my specialty is fire suppression!

A friend pilots and I'm typically in engineering. The other two players are for security or running the mission. Scrambling from place to place repairing, suppressing, and reviving like mad is a lot of fun!

I can hardly imagine how much more fun it would be to try this on an Idris; once those systems are in place decades from now.

trucutru posted:

Lol, there is like a couple of hours left before the year ends and there is still no letter from the chairman. So of course the backers are now writing letters to him pleading ro be given any info, no matter how little, about the game they have sunk half a billion in.

Happy new years fudster, let's hope this one is much better than 2021, shouldn't be that hard to be honest

trucutru posted:

Lol, there is like a couple of hours left before the year ends and there is still no letter from the chairman.

marumaru posted:

https://twitter.com/tha_rami/status/1477142842799804422

Daztek posted:

Remember the janky Star Citizen killer Spacebourne?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIHQbOk6P-M