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democrats? who? those guys that were destroyed short of 16 hours ago? never heard of them
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Saw a Desantis 2024 flag in the wild here in Wisconsin. I'm starting to worry that republicans will split between Trump loyalists and anti-vax nutters and delay the destruction of the perfidious democrat party.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:Saw a Desantis 2024 flag in the wild here in Wisconsin. I'm starting to worry that republicans will split between Trump loyalists and anti-vax nutters and delay the destruction of the perfidious democrat party. Dammit you are so right. Not only are we balkanizing, but most of the lovely resulting factions are really lovely.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:Saw a Desantis 2024 flag in the wild here in Wisconsin. I'm starting to worry that republicans will split between Trump loyalists and anti-vax nutters and delay the destruction of the perfidious democrat party. The Republicans are just as much in disarray as the Democrats, they're just better at rigging the vote in their favor.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:Saw a Desantis 2024 flag in the wild here in Wisconsin. I'm starting to worry that republicans will split between Trump loyalists and anti-vax nutters and delay the destruction of the perfidious democrat party. I kinda think by the time 2024 rolls around with the way the country is going neither of those two will win the primary because they aren't psycho enough
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ProperGanderPusher posted:I wonder what he means by “pro-family”. 100% certain he just means the usual insane white supremacist Christian dominionist horseshit that long ago became mainstream for the GOP.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:Saw a Desantis 2024 flag in the wild here in Wisconsin. I'm starting to worry that republicans will split between Trump loyalists and anti-vax nutters and delay the destruction of the perfidious democrat party. lol I wouldn't read too much into it. DeSantis could make a solid run for president at some point but he still has the charisma of cold mud. Anybody flying a DeSantis 2024 flag is an extremely online outlier.
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Before we start assuming Republicans would never turn their backs on their God emperor, what they value more than anything else is the certitude of their own personal opinions. So DeSantis being a wet blanket may not matter if he becomes the face of vaccine paranoia.
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There are still people out there thinking nikki haley should run. People who express preferences about a political race 2 years away are psychos and not avatars of popular opinion.
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Zvahl posted:given that this person and everyone like her immediately forgave and even praised hillary for owning slaves in arkansas, it naturally follows that buying something to own it is an act of benevolence on the part of the buyer, because otherwise, hillary would have had to own slaves. i had to look it up but lmao this article is all "yeah yeah she used slaves at the governor's mansion but lefties fail to point out that it's normal to do that down in the south"
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Dolphin posted:https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-lefts-latest-and-racially-misguided-swing-at-hillary-clinton?ref=scroll quote:Using prisoners as free labor is a troubling practice that needs to be stopped. And the fact that states across this country, and especially the South, have employed this practice for more than a century does not make it any more acceptable. However, lmao
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Dolphin posted:https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-lefts-latest-and-racially-misguided-swing-at-hillary-clinton?ref=scroll lol at this clown no no not that time, the other time
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Before we start assuming Republicans would never turn their backs on their God emperor, what they value more than anything else is the certitude of their own personal opinions. So DeSantis being a wet blanket may not matter if he becomes the face of vaccine paranoia. They don't really have any consistent opinions. What drives them is petty, spiteful cruelty and domination, and any opinion they hold at any particular moment will reflect that. The anti-vax stance is just a way for them to feel defiant if they resist and victimized if they're forced to take it; there's no principle to it, so they could easily abandon it. It's also just thinly-disguised anti-semitism and associated fascism, so it's about what it represents, not the actual vaccine itself. Criticism of Trump over the vaccine this far out is like a toddler during the terrible twos; they're acting out to show they're grown up. They'll absolutely fall back in line as soon as Trump starts acting like the gigantic prick they know and love.
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Zvahl posted:lol at this clown If hilary clinton didn't like the slavery (no indication she didn't, but whatever) because she was from the north, does that mean that he's saying bill loved the slavery?
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30.5 Days posted:If hilary clinton didn't like the slavery (no indication she didn't, but whatever) because she was from the north, does that mean that he's saying bill loved the slavery? Bill was perfectly fine with sex slavery so yeah.
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CaptainACAB posted:Bill was perfectly fine with sex slavery so yeah. 
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Slamhound posted:They don't really have any consistent opinions. What drives them is petty, spiteful cruelty and domination, and any opinion they hold at any particular moment will reflect that. The anti-vax stance is just a way for them to feel defiant if they resist and victimized if they're forced to take it; there's no principle to it, so they could easily abandon it. It's also just thinly-disguised anti-semitism and associated fascism, so it's about what it represents, not the actual vaccine itself. It's only easy to abandon beliefs and opinions when you don't really have any - but once they've invested their egos into a thing it's insanely hard to give up on it. This problem only goes away if Trump embraces anti-vaxx rhetoric.
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30.5 Days posted:lmao The really funny thing about that is it would've been an easy slam dunk for Team Hillary to do the song about recognizing wrongs, doing better, we should end this barbaric practice in governor's mansions - etc. Instead like every other Hillary campaign controversy, they just pretended it wasn't happening. That or the Hilldawgs would say poo poo like only a sexist cares about slaves at the governor's mansion.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:once they've invested their egos into a thing it's insanely hard to give up on it. This problem only goes away if Trump embraces anti-vaxx rhetoric. hence why trump will never go anti-vaxx. i wonder how intractable this really is; imo he doesn't lose to an anti-vaxx candidate just because he's got so much more charisma than anyone else in the field
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i say swears online posted:hence why trump will never go anti-vaxx. i wonder how intractable this really is; imo he doesn't lose to an anti-vaxx candidate just because he's got so much more charisma than anyone else in the field I'm just not discounting the possibility of there being a substantial rift. It's a long time yet until primary season, and a whole ton of stupid stuff could tip things either way.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's only easy to abandon beliefs and opinions when you don't really have any - but once they've invested their egos into a thing it's insanely hard to give up on it. This problem only goes away if Trump embraces anti-vaxx rhetoric. That would be no problem for Trump because the anti-vax rhetoric is constantly shifting. First it's anti-vax, then it's anti-mandate, then it's anti-booster, and so on. Trump just has to say something like "Get the vaccine, it's a high-quality vaccine, made possible by me. But only if you want to. Don't let Biden force you to get the vaccine. You can't trust him. Many people are saying when I'm president you'll be able to trust the vaccine, believe me.". Trump routinely contradicts himself in the course of a single statement. That's how fascism operates. Words have no intellectual meaning, only emotional.
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Slamhound posted:"Get the vaccine, it's a high-quality vaccine, made possible by me. But only if you want to. Don't let Biden force you to get the vaccine. You can't trust him. Many people are saying when I'm president you'll be able to trust the vaccine, believe me.". this tracks
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Slamhound posted:They don't really have any consistent opinions. What drives them is petty, spiteful cruelty and domination, and any opinion they hold at any particular moment will reflect that. The anti-vax stance is just a way for them to feel defiant if they resist and victimized if they're forced to take it; there's no principle to it, so they could easily abandon it. It's also just thinly-disguised anti-semitism and associated fascism, so it's about what it represents, not the actual vaccine itself. Absolutely brilliant analysis of just that by Christman on Antifada here. I hadn’t heard such s detailed breakdown of the people and their motivations and worldview, it’s been strangely comforting.
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Orbis Tertius posted:the CDC / Delta thing utterly broke my parents brains, apparently. Biden administration is being “criminally negligent”. think of the democratic party as any other modern business, in that it uses state of the art management practices to manage its supply chain. instead of just in time inventory, it relies on predictive models to do the minimum work necessary to win elections. namely, technocratic adjustments to the apparatus of state to court constituencies like college educated millennial soccer moms in purple state suburbs. as the last year indicates, it doesn’t take much of a disruption to cause a series of cascading breakdowns. it only takes a little slippage around the margins for the democrats to get destroyed in 2022
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Slamhound posted:They don't really have any consistent opinions. What drives them is petty, spiteful cruelty and domination, and any opinion they hold at any particular moment will reflect that. The anti-vax stance is just a way for them to feel defiant if they resist and victimized if they're forced to take it; there's no principle to it, so they could easily abandon it. It's also just thinly-disguised anti-semitism and associated fascism, so it's about what it represents, not the actual vaccine itself. This kind of thinking about Republican voters is as much a losing proposition long term as any McKinley and co Ghoul the Dems put up. They are people who look at society as they experience it and think 'why are murders and robberies so high in Democrat cities? Why are democrats telling me I have no place in deciding how my child is educated? Why are democrats telling me I'm an idiot for thinking there is a logistics problem when the shelves are so bare every time I go to buy some Reese's pieces?' and people respond with 'you are dumb and spiteful for being concerned primarily with the well-being of your family instead of some nebulous purple haired female Saudi uber driver'. As long as you keep stating an entire voting cadre are irredeemable scum and gradually pull the classic splitter trick and drive off people on your side while your opponents openly welcome anybody willing to cross the aisle your base will shrink until it becomes nonviable. Fox News are way smarter than basically any leftist organisers because they have got Tucker to start pushing strasserist and traditionalist workers party talking points on his show. That's the real scary part, they have already realised that through workers solidarity rhetoric they can implement the fascist state they always dreamt of. If Biden is kicking people off welfare while Fox News is telling it's viewers about how the salt deduction is basically the super wealthy stealing their pay what the gently caress do you think is going to happen. But I guess from an accelerations pov actively driving working class voters to the GOP will destroy the Dems faster
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Centrist Committee posted:think of the democratic party as any other modern business, in that it uses state of the art management practices to manage its supply chain. instead of just in time inventory, it relies on predictive models to do the minimum work necessary to win elections. namely, technocratic adjustments to the apparatus of state to court constituencies like college educated millennial soccer moms in purple state suburbs. as the last year indicates, it doesn’t take much of a disruption to cause a series of cascading breakdowns. it only takes a little slippage around the margins for the democrats to get destroyed in 2022 yeah they went from “did you hear the new variant isn’t that bad? thank god” to “throw the bums out” in like, a week? things are happening fast
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cagliostr0 posted:This kind of thinking about Republican voters is as much a losing proposition long term as any McKinley and co Ghoul the Dems put up. They are people who look at society as they experience it and think 'why are murders and robberies so high in Democrat cities? Why are democrats telling me I have no place in deciding how my child is educated? Why are democrats telling me I'm an idiot for thinking there is a logistics problem when the shelves are so bare every time I go to buy some Reese's pieces?' and people respond with 'you are dumb and spiteful for being concerned primarily with the well-being of your family instead of some nebulous purple haired female Saudi uber driver'. As long as you keep stating an entire voting cadre are irredeemable scum and gradually pull the classic splitter trick and drive off people on your side while your opponents openly welcome anybody willing to cross the aisle your base will shrink until it becomes nonviable. Republicans aren't born irredeemable monsters like orcs, no, they're class enemies. They believe the things they do because they want to secure their social position & privileges. That's why Democrats and Republicans are constantly competing over what is basically the same kind of voter: the white middle class that has enough money to donate and enough time to vote. There's no convincing Republicans to become liberals or whatever, because they're basically Liberals already. It's not an issue of persuasion it's an issue of failing to serve the interests of the electorate. Republicans can offer their voters an Id-based politics that satisfies all their reactionary impulses and makes them feel better, even if not much really changes. Meanwhile Democrats offer nothing but an increasingly hollow brand of self-righteousness which they constantly undermine by refusing to do anything. There's no persuading liberals to suddenly get some sense either. They act this way because the entire political system has been set up to profit government inaction in favor of market force. There's no sensible reform to this level of institutional rot.
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30.5 Days posted:lmao God, it's not the governor had any authority to change these policies. They were victims of those above them in the state power structure.
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