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cant cook creole bream posted:I have no doubt that there's a wave comming. But I don't assume i's already there but hidden. Fair enough, plus the sheer size of the USA versus tiny DK means we sort of get it "all at once" here, versus more of a slow burn. I still would expect the cases per day to increase significantly in both DE and USA.
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MikeC posted:Ontario, Canada was about 3 weeks behind South Africa in terms of the Omicron wave (which has peaked in SA) and has seen infection rate climb so rapidly that it has pushed the province's testing capacity beyond its daily limit. The current active case counts are no longer accurate because we can't process the tests fast enough to get a true grip on much less tracking asymptomatic individuals who never get tested. The news is good though. Hospitalizations/ICU bed usage while up have not followed the exponential trend of previous waves. So Ontario is continuing the trend seen in South Africa and the UK with the decoupling of cases vs severe outcomes. Ontario's data is also likely to be suffering from some distortion due to high incidental case counts just like South Africa and the UK. While clearly, the upward trend is the responsibility of Omicron, the active case count has increased by 14x (likely higher due to testing limits) since Dec 2 while hospitalizations (including incidental numbers) have increased just under 4x and ICU usage has increased just under 2x. Compared to our Delta wave which saw a 3x increase in active case counts with a corresponding 3x increase in hospitalization and a 2x increase in ICU usage (same time span 30 days prior to peak of Delta). Detroit (which is next to Ontario) seemed to be peaking around last week in its Onicron wave with half of the bars/restaurants shutting down in downtown temporarily just due to not having enough staff to cover during holiday season. Both anecdotal (I had it along with around 50 percent of my friend group) and data-wise, it's both super communicable (I'm triple vaxed and had Covid wayyyy back in March two years ago, probably, before you could really get tested, everyone else I know who got it was at least double) and isn't doing much to people vaxxed on the short term, at least (2 and a half day slightly annoying cold, for me). It will be a while before pure data comes out, but the numbers who are getting it aren't really spiking hospitals the same as the other variants so far.
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Professor Beetus posted:Seriously, get the shot. Was it something you heard here on the forums or something you heard elsewhere? Either way that's loving awful advice and you should get your booster as soon as you are eligible (6 months out from your first round if you got Moderna or Pfizer, 2 months out if you got Johnson and Johnson). Unfortunately I don't know what the booster schedule for vaccines only available internationally look like, but it should be easy enough to find out.
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cunningham posted:This is obviously an anecdote and not data, but at our clinic (twice a week, pharmacy school), we advise patients to not be actively sick when they come to the clinic: not adding a potential strong reaction to the shot when you're already sick minimizes risk to the patient, and if you spread whatever you're sick with - covid or not - jeopardizes our whole clinic if volunteers get sick. Waiting a few days when you're already at home convalescing is not the end of the world. Well yeah, I'd imagine if your body is already actively fighting a real infection, a vaccine is bound to be less effective, or might make the immune reactions worse. But there's no real reason to wait for months afterwards.
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Denmark - 2 January 2022 Cases drop 2/3 in a day. Bad reporting, or was Christmas dinner followed by Danes becoming hermits again in hygge caves? No loving clue. Graphs from yesterday because they're a minor pain to make. UV = Unvaccinated PV = Partially vaccinated FV = Fully vaccinated Suffix: N = New infections, H = Hospitalized  pre:Denmark Covid Cases ----------------------------------- Jan 02 7,550 new cases, 404 reinfections, 163 new hospitalizations (709 total), 76 ICU (+3), 50 Vent (+1), 15 dead Jan 01 20,885 new cases, 1049 reinfections, 139 new hospitalizations (647 total), 73 ICU (+0), 49 Vent (+0), 5 dead Dec 31 17,605 new cases, 1090 reinfections, 177 new hospitalizations (641 total), 73 ICU (-2), 49 Vent (-1), 11 dead Dec 30 21,403 new cases, 1123 reinfections, 178 new hospitalizations (665 total), 75 ICU (-2), 50 Vent (-2), 9 dead Dec 29 23,228 new cases, 1205 reinfections, 173 new hospitalizations (675 total), 77 ICU (+6), 52 Vent (+2), 16 dead Dec 28 13,000 new cases, 670 reinfections, 177 new hospitalizations (666 total), 71 ICU (+1), 50 Vent (+4), 14 dead Dec 27 16,164 new cases, 639 reinfections, 115 new hospitalizations (608 total), 70 ICU (-1), 46 Vent (-2), 7 dead Dec 26 14,844 new cases, 644 reinfections, 123 new hospitalizations (579 total), 71 ICU (-2), 43 Vent (+1), 13 dead Dec 25 10,027 new cases, 463 reinfections, 86 new hospitalizations (522 total), 73 ICU (-1), 44 Vent (+5), 10 dead Dec 24 11,229 new cases, 527 reinfections, 134 new hospitalizations (509 total), 74 ICU (+2), 39 vent (+1), 14 dead Dec 23 12,487 new cases, 613 reinfections, 158 new hospitalizations (541 total), 72 ICU (+6), 38 vent (+1), 15 dead Dec 22 13,386 new cases, 531 reinfections, 126 new hospitalizations (524 total), 66 ICU (-1), 37 vent (+2), 14 dead Dec 21 13,558 new cases, 501 reinfections, 121 new hospitalizations (526 total), 67 ICU (+1), 35 vent (+2), 17 dead Dec 20 10,082 new cases, (no reinf. data), 85 new hospitalizations (581 total), 66 ICU (+3), 33 vent (-2), 8 dead Dec 19 8,212 Dec 18 8,594 Dec 17 11,194 Dec 16 9,999 Dec 15 8,773 pre:20 December - 317 ICU beds, 60 COVID, 59 available 13 December - 319 ICU beds, 64 COVID, 39 available 6 December - 310 ICU beds, 67 COVID, 10 available <-- squeaky bum time here 29 November - 318 ICU beds, 61 COVID, 25 available Since yesterday, rates per 100,000 population.  pre:Unvaccinated Partial Full Unvaccinated Partial Full 02 JAN New cases: 152.8 150.7 124.7 Hospitalizations: 41.4 18.7 9.5 01 JAN New cases: 437.8 413.6 331.2 Hospitalizations: 38.6 18.4 8.6 31 DEC New cases: 341.1 334.2 300.2 Hospitalizations: 37.8 20.7 8.6 30 DEC New cases: 409.2 391.5 345.5 Hospitalizations: 39.4 21.1 8.9 29 DEC New cases: 443.6 446.0 377.4 Hospitalizations: 40.1 18.5 9.1 28 DEC New cases: 237.3 208.2 210.2 Hospitalizations: 40.5 16.9 8.6 27 DEC New cases: 304.4 324.9 263.3 Hospitalizations: 40.0 15.8 7.8 26 DEC New cases: 310.4 274.9 241.2 Hospitalizations: 39.0 15.4 7.3 25 DEC New cases: 181.6 162.1 161.5 Hospitalizations: 33.9 16.0 6.8 24 DEC New cases: 184.1 173.0 182.1 Hospitalizations: 34.5 14.9 7.1 23 DEC New cases: 237.1 202.6 197.9 Hospitalizations: 35.4 16.2 7.5 22 DEC New cases: 257.1 198.1 211.7 Hospitalizations: 34.2 15.3 7.3 21 DEC New cases: 270.1 226.2 207.8 Hospitalizations: 32.9 14.3 7.5 17 DEC New cases: 252.1 199.3 172.9 Hospitalizations: 31.0 14.9 6.8 15 DEC New cases: 216.0 153.3 121.6 Hospitalizations: 31.3 11.7 6.7 08 DEC New cases: 193.5 126.9 80.9 Hospitalizations: 27.5 8.7 6.5 01 DEC New cases: 162.4 102.1 59.84 Hospitalizations: 24.6 11.3 6.1 25 NOV New cases: 134.7 120.9 52.97 Hospitalizations: 21.9 7.2 5.9 pre:1.77% on 1 December 4.8% on 6 December 10% on 8 December 22% on 12 December 37% on 14 December 50% on 17 December 60% on 20 December 70% on 21 December 74% on 22 December 81% on 24 December 84% on 26 December 86% on 27 December 92% on 29 December (only 79 tests) Sources: https://covid19.ssi.dk/overvagningsdata/download-fil-med-overvaagningdata https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/242ec2acc014456295189631586f1d26 https://covid19.ssi.dk/virusvarianter/delta-pcr Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jan 3, 2022 |
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cunningham posted:This is obviously an anecdote and not data, but at our clinic (twice a week, pharmacy school), we advise patients to not be actively sick when they come to the clinic: not adding a potential strong reaction to the shot when you're already sick minimizes risk to the patient, and if you spread whatever you're sick with - covid or not - jeopardizes our whole clinic if volunteers get sick. Waiting a few days when you're already at home convalescing is not the end of the world. Didn’t the CDC say it’s ok after about five days?
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cunningham posted:This is obviously an anecdote and not data, but at our clinic (twice a week, pharmacy school), we advise patients to not be actively sick when they come to the clinic: not adding a potential strong reaction to the shot when you're already sick minimizes risk to the patient, and if you spread whatever you're sick with - covid or not - jeopardizes our whole clinic if volunteers get sick. Waiting a few days when you're already at home convalescing is not the end of the world. I guess it would depend on how bad the lingering coughing is. I've had colds that gave me a lingering cough for months. I was speaking more to the "wait a month after a positive test" thing, which a)the poster did not have, and b) is not accurate to begin with. You can get vaccinated if your symptoms have resolved and you are through the quarantine period (yes yes CDC bad etc). This isn't the place for medical advice but anyone who is eligible to be boosted should get boosted at this point.
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Rust Martialis posted:Seems low, because with 1/60th the population, DK has like 20K cases a day now. You should be well over a million cases a day if you tested as well as Denmark. Vaccination doesn't seem to stop people getting omicron so we're probably all getting it. So are you. Tillykke! It's the weekend.
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It's the weekend, it's a holiday weekend, and US positivity is already up to around 30%. Testing capacity is overwhelmed and a lot of people aren't getting tested because they can't find anywhere still accepting people or won't stand in line for hours. US will not see a 1 million case day officially without something like a 60+% positivity rate as about 1.5m tests are being done per day on average for the last couple months with a flat trend. Which would be kind of crazy. Suzera fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jan 2, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/14776...ingawful.com%2F How did they not see this coming (again)
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Covid is running rampant I mean I went up to my cabin in Trump country California for a week. When I came in I bought like 30 tests. On driving out I came to the same spot where they had a literal pallet of tests on the sales floor. All gone. So that tells me it's hitting small communities very very hard.
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Judakel posted:It's the weekend. Nah, the other poster pointed out the US is lagging behind Denmark probably. The good news is being fully vaccinated seems to reduce hospitalization 75% from unvaccinated rates. The bad news is the US has a lot of unvaccinated people in some places.
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Suzera posted:It's the weekend, it's a holiday weekend, and US positivity is already up to around 30%. Testing capacity is overwhelmed and a lot of people aren't getting tested because they can't find anywhere still accepting people or won't stand in line for hours. US will not see a 1 million case day officially without something like a 60+% positivity rate as about 1.5m tests are being done per day on average for the last couple months with a flat trend. I can see some posters comment about testing being overwhelmed but Denmark did 63k PCR tests and 71k antigen tests yesterday. By population, that'd be 3.6 million or so PCR tests in the USA, and 4 million antigen tests. Is that 1.5 million tests only for like New York State, or nationally? https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/aa41b29149f24e20a4007a0c4e13db1d No, Denmark is testing the poo poo out of us. 
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Rust Martialis posted:I can see some posters comment about testing being overwhelmed but Denmark did 63k PCR tests and 71k antigen tests yesterday. By population, that'd be 3.6 million or so PCR tests in the USA, and 4 million antigen tests. E: This may not include antigen tests. Looking at the description page for NAATs it does list PCR but none of the ones listed have the word antigen in them, and seems to define these in opposition to antigen tests. Suzera fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jan 2, 2022 |
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Rust Martialis posted:I can see some posters comment about testing being overwhelmed but Denmark did 63k PCR tests and 71k antigen tests yesterday. By population, that'd be 3.6 million or so PCR tests in the USA, and 4 million antigen tests. PCR tests just aren't realistically scalable on the short-term and it varies hugely by region, because if it doesn't have a lot of biotech research, then the capacity is new. If demand suddenly skyrockets, there's nothing you can do. Also, for a point-of-reference, the center I'm affiliated with apparently does more daily than the entire country of Denmark and the majority of those samples are just from the state of Massachusetts. BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jan 2, 2022 |
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Rust Martialis posted:No, Denmark is testing the poo poo out of us. Not too hard to access tests most of the time in most places though, gotta look like we're trying.
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Rust Martialis posted:Nah, the other poster pointed out the US is lagging behind Denmark probably. The good news is being fully vaccinated seems to reduce hospitalization 75% from unvaccinated rates. The bad news is the US has a lot of unvaccinated people in some places. Also, all children under 5 are unvaccinated.
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brugroffil posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/14776...ingawful.com%2F You're not supposed to make it so obvious when you're wingin' it Since people can test positive for weeks to months, are they expected to just take extended leave without pay or any kind of federal assistance? Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jan 2, 2022 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:You're not supposed to make it so obvious when you're wingin' it Of course, this is the land of the free (from an adequate social safety net).
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:PCR tests just aren't realistically scalable on the short-term and it varies hugely by region, because if it doesn't have a lot of biotech research, then the capacity is new. If demand suddenly skyrockets, there's nothing you can do. Also, for a point-of-reference, the center I'm affiliated with apparently does more daily than the entire country of Denmark and the majority of those samples are just from the state of Massachusetts. We're kinda out of "short term" at this point, to be honest. I worked in a lab that did PCR a couple decades ago when it was new so I know enough about it, but I would assume the machines are 1) fairly idiotproofed at this point and 2) the bottleneck. It does seem Denmark is testing like mad. Here is a picture of the Danish queen having a hotdog and a dart. 
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Mooseontheloose posted:Also, all children under 5 are unvaccinated. Same as in DK, but they started now.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:PCR tests just aren't realistically scalable on the short-term and it varies hugely by region, because if it doesn't have a lot of biotech research, then the capacity is new. If demand suddenly skyrockets, there's nothing you can do. Also, for a point-of-reference, the center I'm affiliated with apparently does more daily than the entire country of Denmark and the majority of those samples are just from the state of Massachusetts. Massachusetts has more people than Denmark. (6.89 million vs. 5.83 million)
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Rust Martialis posted:We're kinda out of "short term" at this point, to be honest. ...huh? Daily positive tests in NYC are more than 5x higher than they ever have been and rising. The testing capacity is built around dealing with everything we've seen up until now. Having less than a month to procure resources to do an order of magnitude more testing (yes, the machines are the bottleneck, though labor could potentially be one as well) is definitely short-term. I mean, it's still an embarrassing shitshow, but it's one of the more forgivable parts of the greater embarrassing shitshow.
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Rust Martialis posted:Nah, the other poster pointed out the US is lagging behind Denmark probably. The good news is being fully vaccinated seems to reduce hospitalization 75% from unvaccinated rates. The bad news is the US has a lot of unvaccinated people in some places. No, it's the weekend and data entry lags on the weekend.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:...huh? Daily positive tests in NYC are more than 5x higher than they ever have been and rising. The testing capacity is built around dealing with everything we've seen up until now. Having less than a month to procure resources to do an order of magnitude more testing (yes, the machines are the bottleneck, though labor could potentially be one as well) is definitely short-term. What I think he's saying is that it's loving ridiculous that we haven't improved our testing infrastructure (among other things). It's not forgivable. We keep thinking we've moved past the pandemic and so we relax. The government should keep bolstering our capabilities. We've had almost 2 years to procure resources, not just a month, if anyone in charge was thinking clearly.
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sexy tiger boobs posted:What I think he's saying is that it's loving ridiculous that we haven't improved our testing infrastructure (among other things). It's not forgivable. We keep thinking we've moved past the pandemic and so we relax. The government should keep bolstering our capabilities. We've had almost 2 years to procure resources, not just a month, if anyone in charge was thinking clearly. Yeah, but at any given point in time for the past 2 years the people in charge of our response to this thing have genuinely believed we were going to get back to normal any month now. It's always just over the next hill.
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Professor Beetus posted:Of course, this is the land of the free (from an adequate social safety net). I mean it's not just a matter of money, nobody wants to isolate for a month after a mild case that resolved on day 6. It also discourages people with mild cases or people with known exposures and no symptoms from getting tested. Like yeah paid sick leave is a good idea, there's just no need to tie it to fixing covid. It probably wouldn't change much (the UK has paid sick leave, so does Arizona which is one of the hardest hit states and didn't have a really bad early wave like NY/NJ) and paid sick leave would still be good if covid didn't exist.
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sexy tiger boobs posted:What I think he's saying is that it's loving ridiculous that we haven't improved our testing infrastructure (among other things). It's not forgivable. We keep thinking we've moved past the pandemic and so we relax. The government should keep bolstering our capabilities. We've had almost 2 years to procure resources, not just a month, if anyone in charge was thinking clearly. Yeah, for sure; it's particularly absurd that we don't have stockpiles of rapid antigen tests, and we should have used this as an opportunity to normalize RT-PCR as a clinical lab diagnostic tool. I'm just not exactly sure that we could have realistically scaled up PCR testing to meet the current need because this degree of vaccine evasion for infection is worst-case scenario.
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Tiny Timbs posted:You're not supposed to make it so obvious when you're wingin' it No, the idea is a negative test would let you leave isolation early, ahead of the full 10 days. Otherwise after 10 days you'd be good to go like under the previous guidelines.
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sexy tiger boobs posted:What I think he's saying is that it's loving ridiculous that we haven't improved our testing infrastructure (among other things). It's not forgivable. We keep thinking we've moved past the pandemic and so we relax. The government should keep bolstering our capabilities. We've had almost 2 years to procure resources, not just a month, if anyone in charge was thinking clearly. It's going to be interesting to read about which person or group in DK made the decision to test like crazy and stuck with it. The result is at the peak of omicron to date we're testing maybe 20% over our previous daily rate.
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James Garfield posted:I mean it's not just a matter of money, nobody wants to isolate for a month after a mild case that resolved on day 6. It also discourages people with mild cases or people with known exposures and no symptoms from getting tested. Yeah, I don't actually think a month is something that could or should happen, depending on the circumstances. But even people who get sick leave in the US might burn through most of their year's worth by quarantining for even ten days. And a lot of folks who get leave at lovely jobs won't even have dedicated sick time, they'll just get 12 days of combined vacations/sick leave. A robust social safety net wouldn't have solved covid, but it would have made a huge difference in ensuring people didn't have to throw themselves back into the meat grinder to avoid losing everything. It's why the extended UI was so good for people. As a high risk person I was able to stay isolated pretty much until there was a vaccine available, and it actually increased our monthly income. But even then a lot of people were hosed over by the individual states' hosed up UI systems. A stronger and more capable federal government could actually do quite a bit to help people get through this pandemic, it's a shame we have such a shitshow here.
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Hi goons I started feeling sick on Dec 24th, got a PCR test on the 28th and got a positive result on the 29th. What day should I be good to re-enter society? Would I need another test? The city has a program to ship out PCR tests to people who want them, but I’m also reading that PCRs will flag positive past the point of being contagious? Rapids are apparently rare but I can’t go to stores to check, obviously.
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James Garfield posted:I mean it's not just a matter of money, nobody wants to isolate for a month after a mild case that resolved on day 6. It also discourages people with mild cases or people with known exposures and no symptoms from getting tested. Well if they don't WANT to, then that's ok.
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buglord posted:Hi goons It's 10 days in the UK, not sure about where you are but I didn't go out until day 11 when I was testing negative. If you want my anecdotal advice, I started to feel better day 6 then found it came back for a second round, so be careful you don't exert yourself too soon.
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I had Coronavirus more than a week ago and now I just have symptoms indistinguishable from hayfever. Its not like a cold at all. It's like itchy sinuses, puffy eyes and a runny nose. I'm worried that the rona has made me allergic to oxygen. Anyone else had anything similar?
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jiggerypokery posted:I had Coronavirus more than a week ago and now I just have symptoms indistinguishable from hayfever. Its not like a cold at all. It's like itchy sinuses, puffy eyes and a runny nose. I'm worried that the rona has made me allergic to oxygen. Anyone else had anything similar? Well it turns out my in laws are positive and we saw them on Wednesday and now I have those exact symptoms so Uh Better go try to find a test lol
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buglord posted:Hi goons I don't keep track of all of the current national guidelines, but the theory is to pick a number of days(10, 14 days from onset of symptoms are reasonable) and look at your symptoms. If you dont have any serious symptoms, the symptoms you do have are improving, and you haven't had a fever in the past 24 hours(and you haven't taken an anti-fever medication) you should be fine to re-enter society.
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brugroffil posted:Well it turns out my in laws are positive and we saw them on Wednesday and now I have those exact symptoms so Dude, did you get Delta and Omnocrom? Anyways, hope everything ok obviously, but drat. (brugroffil and i are postin pals for anyone who perceived this as insensitive.) Gio fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jan 2, 2022 |
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