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If you're trying to figure out what the appeal of Monster Hunter is, my advice is try the great sword. I don't say this because it's the most beginner-friendly weapon. In fact, you'll probably miss your charge attacks a lot while messing around with it. The reason I say to try the great sword is because it has an extremely obvious "win condition", so to speak. You know you're supposed to get that max charge off on the enemy's most vulnerable point, and it's very easy to see, at least in theory, how that's supposed to work even if you can't do it for a while. But every once in a while you'll probably get it off and and it'll feel amazing when you do. As you learn enemy patterns, get used to the timing on your moveset, etc. you will gradually land these hits more and more often, and it'll be really easy to see the difference between where you started and where you're at after only a little bit of play. This feeling of mastery is a big part of what people enjoy about Monster Hunter. Great sword isn't the only weapon that can offer this; it's just the simplest example of it on paper. I've seen the game "click" for people with the gunlance (clutch wyvern fire shotgun) and hammer (knocking an enemy out cold via rapid blows to the head) too, so maybe consider those as they also have some big climactic moments without a lot of poo poo to learn. I would say if you have this experience with a weapon and still don't really care, then you can safely say it's just not your thing. But if you're wondering what you're "missing", give it a shot.
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The combat is souls like in that it is slow and methodical and you will get punished for committing to an action incorrectly, it sounds like that's what's tripping up that poster. Most action games today are much snappier, allow for animation cancelling etc and if you're not used to this pace, it's an acquired taste. Definitely not for everyone, especially if you've tried different weapons and understand the game enough to keep progressing yet still aren't having much fun. I'd say give it a bit more time though before you give up on the entirely, and remember that combat is supposed to be deliberate.
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Nickoten posted:If you're trying to figure out what the appeal of Monster Hunter is, my advice is try the great sword. that said, the best advice is always to just try everything because you never know what might "click". there's no obvious option in monster hunter, and all the weapons play very differently so you might discover that one of them just feels more natural to you than the others. for me when i was coming from a background of dark souls it was the hammer that made the most sense, but others have said the same about the sword and shield or even the insect glaive. KingSlime posted:The combat is souls like in that it is slow and methodical and you will get punished for committing to an action incorrectly, it sounds like that's what's tripping up that poster. Most action games today are much snappier, allow for animation cancelling etc and if you're not used to this pace, it's an acquired taste.
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I think it's going to be in capcom's interest to speed up the combat just a little bit for future installments. Definitely still keep the animation based punishing combat where positioning and knowledge of enemy moves is everything. Just Bloodborne it up a bit E: good point about lock on not really being super viable in monster Hunter. I eventually got comfortable with not using lock on in certain situations in dark souls which does make the game feel more technical in a monster hunter kind of way, but that took a long time and you can definitely go the entire game without learning that skill
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Google Butt posted:name a game I should buy (not botw) Demon's Tilt
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dr.acula posted:Demon's Tilt I want this but $20 looks kinda steep
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Harriet Carker posted:Well, I just put a few hours into Monster Hunter Rise, and it feels totally impenetrable and unfun so far. It really is one of the more approachable ones yes - which weapon did you try? If you hate the combat you hate the combat, but imo the weapons control differently enough that you might have just not found the one that clicks with you yet. I still have weapons I absolutely hate and cannot get into but when a new weapon clicks it's a really cool feeling That said I have like 200 hours in the game and even then if I pick up a new weapon I have to check youtube first. It is not a super easy game to pick up, but the early quests are easy enough that you have the space to safely learn how to play without knowing 100% how everything works. Also imo the Hammer is one of the easiest weapons to figure out how to play and do well with. Hold R, run around until it's charged, let go, knock a monster out
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bushisms.txt posted:Just LMAO if you're aren't tooting your horn before dodging between enemy strikes so you can finish the tune. are we still talking about monster hunter 
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KingSlime posted:I think it's going to be in capcom's interest to speed up the combat just a little bit for future installments. Definitely still keep the animation based punishing combat where positioning and knowledge of enemy moves is everything. this is one of the dumbest takes i've seen in the switch thread and that's saying something
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I tried the Astalon demo and the movement was just too slow for my taste, especially with the amount of backtracking I imagine you have to do in order to switch characters etc.
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I beat the Castlevania Advance collection last week and made some maps after. I think they pretty much improve in release order, HoD music aside the two castle thing is done much better than SotN. Aria is leagues better and maybe the best CV game? Although I need to replay Dawn also. The soul mechanic is fun for the most part. https://twitter.com/vgcartography/status/1477989818541957123?t=Tk6kvh3b4VGbJXGJKdp6gw&s=19
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Chas McGill posted:I tried the Astalon demo and the movement was just too slow for my taste, especially with the amount of backtracking I imagine you have to do in order to switch characters etc. you get the ability to swap characters whenever pretty early on. the movement does start out a little slow but you do get increasing movement abilities as you go and open shortcuts all over the place etc.
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FFXIV Porn posted:you get the ability to swap characters whenever pretty early on. the movement does start out a little slow but you do get increasing movement abilities as you go and open shortcuts all over the place etc.
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I’ve also started playing MH Rise, maybe 5-6 hours of it, and also don’t get it. I understand the basic systems, and have mostly settled on the switch axe after trying a few of the weapons, and I 70% understand the combat. It’s just not very much fun? You do a mission that takes 20 mins, go back home, check to see if there’s any new armor, repeat. The combat isn’t super satisfying, there’s no real sense of achievement when beating a big monster, it’s just kind of boring. I thought this was supposed to be some super complex game, and while there are a lot of systems it boils down to just hitting the same enemies that take way, way too many hits in the same environments over and over again. Maybe it’s more fun in multiplayer, but I don’t think it’s for me.
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The Pirate Captain posted:I’ve also started playing MH Rise, maybe 5-6 hours of it, and also don’t get it. I understand the basic systems, and have mostly settled on the switch axe after trying a few of the weapons, and I 70% understand the combat. It’s just not very much fun? You do a mission that takes 20 mins, go back home, check to see if there’s any new armor, repeat. The combat isn’t super satisfying, there’s no real sense of achievement when beating a big monster, it’s just kind of boring. I thought this was supposed to be some super complex game, and while there are a lot of systems it boils down to just hitting the same enemies that take way, way too many hits in the same environments over and over again. Maybe it’s more fun in multiplayer, but I don’t think it’s for me. It's definitely more fun in multiplayer. Playing with others will probably speed up the gameplay loop a little too, but at the end of the day it might just not be your thing.
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The Postman posted:It's definitely more fun in multiplayer. Playing with others will probably speed up the gameplay loop a little too, but at the end of the day it might just not be your thing.  sounds like it might just not be their thing tho e: that said if you're only a couple of hours in chances are you're still in low rank village and those quests shouldn't take more than 5-10 minutes so if you're spending 20 minutes on them you might not have understood the combat that well. of course the core gameplay loop itself does remain the same (eat, fight, talk, gather, craft) so if that is entirely unappealing then it's not gonna be fun regardless, probably Your Computer fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jan 3, 2022 |
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Your Computer posted:their problem was that it felt clunky and slow, i think suggesting the great sword is a terrible idea. it requires the most knowledge out of all the weapons in order to even use at a mediocre level, and it's by far the slowest and clunkiest. if whiffing frustrated them, then they aren't going to enjoy the great sword I’m just making a recommendation based on what worked for me.  When I first played Monster Hunter I tried the fast weapons but the game still felt really slow and clunky to me. I said “hmm why not lean into that and see what it’s like”. It’s only when I deliberately went for a weapon that was “supposed” to be slow and clunky that it all made sense to me. Also “the greatest amount of knowledge to use” is kind of a weird phrase and IMO not very useful. Great sword has a simpler move set than most weapons, has no mode changes or meters to track, and is very up front about where the damage is coming from. If anything, I think what drew me to great sword is that it focused on learning the monsters rather than the weapon. My previous recommendation still stands. Try the great sword. quote:I think it's going to be in capcom's interest to speed up the combat just a little bit for future installments. Definitely still keep the animation based punishing combat where positioning and knowledge of enemy moves is everything. The funny thing is, they did. Rise’s new features do add a bit more speed and flair (and so did previous games). I don’t think MH is going to get the level of change up you’re suggesting any time soon, but it has gradually become more acrobatic and fast-paced over time, with Rise continuing that trend. Nickoten fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jan 3, 2022 |
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Nickoten posted:Also “the greatest amount of knowledge to use” is kind of a weird phrase and IMO not very useful. what i meant was that knowing each monster's moves and how they position themselves is key to just landing hits with the greatsword
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Ah, then yeah totally. I think that’s why it worked for me. Felt like I was getting to the thing that interested me more quickly.
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Your Computer posted:multiplayer is pretty much like a different game entirely - whether you like that or not is completely subjective however. personally i find solo a lot more fun I’m towards the end of the 2* quests, so still pretty early. Most of the larger fights have taken ~20 minutes, I do think i understand the combat but am just not great at it yet, but I haven’t died so far either. Ultimately, combat is a little too involved to do something else at the same time like watch TV, but not involved enough that I want to devote my full attention to it. It’s clearly well put together, but yeah, not for me.
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The Pirate Captain posted:enemies that take way, way too many hits youre doing it wrong
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I really enjoyed perfecting gunlance combos in Rise. Very satisfying to finally land an explosive shot directly in their face. The slow movement and lack of much acrobatics makes it more exciting when you do manage to pull off something slick.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Lol I played Dragonball Kakarot 75 hours. Ugh, I lost interest a couple hours in. It's just so unbelievably low-effort that it saps all the fun out of it. I think I dropped it after I got to the (spoilers for a 30 year old cartoon) spot where Goku fights Vegeta, and they didn't even do a little tap-the-A-button QTE for the beam struggle, it was just over and done with in a cutscene. Not that random QTEs are that wonderful, but it's such an iconic scene for them not to give you any gameplay input, and it's so emblematic of how the rest of the game felt -- here's your kinda-janky 3rd person action engine, no frills, nothing unique, we're not doing anything interesting with it, enjoy your DBZ you mouth-breathers.
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The Pirate Captain posted:I’ve also started playing MH Rise, maybe 5-6 hours of it, and also don’t get it. I understand the basic systems, and have mostly settled on the switch axe after trying a few of the weapons, and I 70% understand the combat. It’s just not very much fun? You do a mission that takes 20 mins, go back home, check to see if there’s any new armor, repeat. The combat isn’t super satisfying, there’s no real sense of achievement when beating a big monster, it’s just kind of boring. I thought this was supposed to be some super complex game, and while there are a lot of systems it boils down to just hitting the same enemies that take way, way too many hits in the same environments over and over again. Maybe it’s more fun in multiplayer, but I don’t think it’s for me. Yep! That's more or less how I feel. I solo with Sw/Sh which I'm fond of and multiplayer the horn, sometimes mixing the two more often the former into multiplayer. Maybe it's my fault for trying two different weapons at once, but obviously funds were low and having to grind more cash for something just felt TEDIOUS. Also, I'm not quite as impressed by newer monsters when at the end of the end they're going to die. I remember worrying about the very obvious gameplay loop when I first got it, and it definitely remained a problem. I also didn't really enjoy the Tower Defense aspect of the game. And while people aren't wrong that the youtube tutorials can help explain a weapon better, everyone says it so casually without seeming to understand how detrimental it is that you have to use another medium to best play your game. That's not normal. I don't want to come off as bitter though because it is fun, like I like my Sw/Sh and it was a nice time playing with my friend as irregularly as that happened. Still put 70 hours or something into it. Maybe I'll get the hankering to try it out again until the money becomes a wall again, is a weapon like riding a bike or do you need to retrain? I never did find a method to truly grind out a lot of cash in a go that wasn't just running around mining nodes for a minute, and restarting the same mission. That was tedious.
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The Pirate Captain posted:I’m towards the end of the 2* quests, so still pretty early. Most of the larger fights have taken ~20 minutes, I do think i understand the combat but am just not great at it yet, but I haven’t died so far either. Ultimately, combat is a little too involved to do something else at the same time like watch TV, but not involved enough that I want to devote my full attention to it. It’s clearly well put together, but yeah, not for me. Village quests shouldn't be taking you that long if you understand the combat. That's more of a fair clear time in the Hub quests (where monsters have more HP), for when you're first learning the monster. If you know what you're doing you can take out a Village monster in like... 5 minutes. However, you've basically seen what the basic gameplay loop is: gather things, make weapons, fight monster, fight same monster a few times and get better/faster at killing it, make a new weapon and a fancy hat out of that monster, go fight a bigger and meaner monster. Rinse, repeat. If that basic flow just isn't fun for you, then yeah the game probably just isn't for you. Sorry.  If it's only the fights taking too long that's getting you down and you're otherwise having fun, go look up some weapon tutorials for your chosen weapon. Rise does a better job of explaining itself than other entries, but it's still not great. Chances are, you're missing something that will make things die faster. Or you need to make a better weapon. One of those things. Possibly both?
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