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JollyBoyJohn posted:I'm in the mood for a good management game of some kind, eyeing up Prison Architect but also considering some DLC For Cities Skyline since I only have the base game from near launch and that might scratch the itch Jurassic World Evolution was free from somewhere a while back and I ended up enjoying it way more than I thought. You might have it already.
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The Pirate Captain posted:Jurassic World Evolution was free from somewhere a while back and I ended up enjoying it way more than I thought. You might have it already. It was free on Epic and i agree, most people seem to say it's pretty basic park management sim but it's very very fun if you're into the Jurassic Park IP
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Oxxidation posted:just finished That Stage in rhythm doctor and i was grinning like an idiot the entire time even though i knew the gimmick in advance Assuming it's the Super Battleworn Insomniac level: it's such a great gimmick because very strictly speaking the Insomniac stages should be the easiest - you are just hitting the same beat on every measure - but all of the curveballs make the 7/8 switchup absolutely terrifying I've said it before but the game really just does nail the difficulty, it's always fair in the sense that you never have to memorize a pattern or know about a trick ahead of time - even the people making custom levels make a point out of ensuring this - but it will throw you for a loop repeatedly
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tripwood posted:Yo, forgot to not renew humble bundle so here's some free games I would never play, PM me for the keys. I'll take Mordhau, if you have it still.
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The Pirate Captain posted:Jurassic World Evolution was free from somewhere a while back and I ended up enjoying it way more than I thought. You might have it already. Yep, that was a fun one. The park management is pretty light but I think they really nailed the sense that you're making a 'dinosaur zoo.' There's a sequel as well, which I've been keeping my eye on but haven't played yet. Apparently it leans even more heavily into the dinosaur aspect and less into the park management aspect, which is what is making me hesitate on picking it up. Parkasaurus is another dinosaur park game. It's cheap on sale and it definitely worth checking out. Different vibe than Jurassic World Evo (you'll see that immediately when looking at the screenshots) but it actually is pretty fun.
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Crossposting from the kickstarter thread for any space game fans here that don't venture into that thread. Space combat rpg spacebourne2 Kickstarter just went live and is looking nice! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIHQbOk6P-M https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spacebourne/spacebourne-2?ref=project_build The first one is also on sale for a couple bucks if you wanna try that one out first. https://store.steampowered.com/app/732240/SpaceBourne/ Crazy thing is that the first one was made by one dev, and this one mostly is so far as well.
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i've probably asked this question before since it's been out a few years at this point but if i liked assassin's creed origins (egypt one) well enough, but hated the loot vomit aspect of it, i shouldn't pick up odyssey on the cheap (the greek one) because it's worse in that regard, right
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yeah odyseey is that except more. i do love the poo poo out of it though, its my fav asscreed
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Xanderkish posted:I'm now playing a game called BitBurner, which is a combination of idle game and programming game, complete with its own Java-based coding language. I just spent several hours trying to figure out how to get a script working, and at this point the line between my work and my relaxation begins to blur, and I realize I am more nerd than I could ever have possibly imagined. If you like this one, there is another game that sounds simular (hacking mmo with coding) called Grey Hack which gets a lot of frequent updates, might be worth checking out! https://store.steampowered.com/app/605230/Grey_Hack/ Old rear end trailer, but gives you somewhat of an idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNAfp3XMarA More recent video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJcQmZXGobE Harminoff fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jan 3, 2022 |
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tripwood posted:Yo, forgot to not renew humble bundle so here's some free games I would never play, PM me for the keys. Long shot, but I'd love endzone if you still have it.
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Tell me about Dragon's Dogma. Steam reviews seem pretty positive and some quick internet reading makes it seem enjoyable. It's been on my wishlist from the old days, when I had more time to play games. Is it still fun if I only have 5-10 hours to play games per week? Does it play like Monster Hunter, which I bounced off of? Is it comparable to any other games? Maybe I've played those and can see if I liked them or not.
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americanzero4128 posted:Tell me about Dragon's Dogma. Steam reviews seem pretty positive and some quick internet reading makes it seem enjoyable. It's been on my wishlist from the old days, when I had more time to play games. Is it still fun if I only have 5-10 hours to play games per week? Does it play like Monster Hunter, which I bounced off of? Is it comparable to any other games? Maybe I've played those and can see if I liked them or not. Dragon's Dogma is a weird game, but it's very good. It depends on what you didn't like about Monster Hunter, it's kind of similar in gameplay but you don't have to run around the map chasing after monsters, and fights don't take nearly as long. There's a whole weird system with pawns, AI companions that have a whole "learning" system where they adapt to how you play the game, and then can change based on what you tell them. There's a really detailed character creator, and it actually takes your height and weight into account for your in-game stats. There are a lot of weird simulationist elements that are applied very inconsistently. It's a wildly ambitious game that is only partly successful, but it's still really fun most of the time!
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The Gamers have spoken. https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1478067037020639239
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Pretty good pick imo considering new world and cyberpunk were also on the list
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Cyberpunk is only for "story-rich game" though, so if you forget all the things that actually made it bad -- yes, it had a cool enough story & set pieces.
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If you go in for Dragon's Dogma, stick with it. It's one of the slowest burns I've seen for a game of it's type, too. It's a lot of fun once the cool monsters start showing up on the regular and your character has gotten some cool new abilities under their belt but the starting Arisen is awful and the part of the game where you're getting ripped apart by wolves and goblins instead of cool bigass chimera is dire. I bounced off the game the first time because the first 3-5 hours are just bad. Beeline story quests until cool poo poo starts happening then do enough quests to unlock the fun version of your class.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8 I never really appreciated how good L4D's zombie animations were until now.
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MMF Freeway posted:Pretty good pick imo considering new world and cyberpunk were also on the list well there goes another pile of Amazon's advertising money set on fire for no reason
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Forza Horizon outstanding visual style? I mean, it has good graphics like most driving games, but not sure that's what I think of when I think of great visual style.
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Well they did the revolutionary thing of making something set in Mexico without a yellow filter
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Away all Goats posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8 Crowbcat remains the only worthwhile videogame youtuber.
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Cowcaster posted:i've probably asked this question before since it's been out a few years at this point but if i liked assassin's creed origins (egypt one) well enough, but hated the loot vomit aspect of it, i shouldn't pick up odyssey on the cheap (the greek one) because it's worse in that regard, right i think the system is somewhat better implemented but it's still a big part of it. fwiw odyssey imo is better than origins in nearly every way (comes down to how attached you were to bayek and his wife i guess)
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Away all Goats posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8 drat, that ending was brutal. Also now I just want to play more L4D2....
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Cowcaster posted:why would i be attached to an assassin's creed character cause some of them are cool
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Away all Goats posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8 Valve, at that point, could give any developer unlimited resources and time to work on whatever they wanted. I don't think Turtlerock had such luxury with Back 4 Blood. If such polish required them to crunch 80 hours a week for a few years then I'm glad it wasn't included. I'm sure Crowbcat thinks otherwise.
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Back 4 Blood could have done with a lot of other things, and notably, without a lot of other things. The card system and gun rarity thing sucks, all the special infected look more or less identical at a glance, and it's just all around a worse game than L4D2. At least it's on Game Pass lol
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Jimbot posted:Valve, at that point, could give any developer unlimited resources and time to work on whatever they wanted. I don't think Turtlerock had such luxury with Back 4 Blood. If such polish required them to crunch 80 hours a week for a few years then I'm glad it wasn't included. I'm sure Crowbcat thinks otherwise.
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Jimbot posted:Valve, at that point, could give any developer unlimited resources and time to work on whatever they wanted. I don't think Turtlerock had such luxury with Back 4 Blood. If such polish required them to crunch 80 hours a week for a few years then I'm glad it wasn't included. I'm sure Crowbcat thinks otherwise. i think crowbcat just thinks back 4 blood is a mediocre game cashing in on the reputation of a much better game, at least, that is the impression i got from watching the video, particularly the ending which looks at all the staff members of l4d and all the ones on b4b, then changes the text to read "from the makers of left 4 dead" to "from the makers of evolve"
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:i think crowbcat just thinks back 4 blood is a mediocre game cashing in on the reputation of a much better game, at least, that is the impression i got from watching the video, particularly the ending which looks at all the staff members of l4d and all the ones on b4b, then changes the text to read "from the makers of left 4 dead" to "from the makers of evolve" Yea the game may not have every single employee that worked on L4D, but it does have the creative director and design director of L4D so it's not exactly disingenuous to say that it's from the makers of L4D.
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Dragon Dogma, at its core, is a power trip. It constantly pushes you towards new big monsters you have to work to kill, yet before you know it, you are farming them like candy and the game throws something new that pushes you again. Rinse, repeat many times over, and that's the game over the main storyline. Then there's the 'postgame', which is everything after you beat the main storyline but haven't yet chosen to push to NG+, and again it offers new stuff. And then there's BitterBlack Isle (BBI), a giant dungeon pretty much using bosses as mobs. By the time you farm the boss of BBI, your character should be an absolute powerhouse which has mastered every single Vocation (classes) in the game and can build themselves with hilariously broken hybrid builds mixing up actives/passives from all over the Vocation spectrum. And then there's the fashion simulator. The character creator is one of the best, and you get not one but two characters: your character, as well as your 'Pawn', your ever-present AI companion. The Pawn learns from you by the way. So before cursing at the Pawn for looting stuff on the ground instead of throwing fireballs at the troll currently chasing you, ask yourself how often you have been looting in combat before. Oh, and you can grab up to 2 more pawns from other players, for a well rounded party of 4, and to get a look at other player's fashion sense. Or lack thereof for all those new players using the early-best-stats princess dress. And finally, it has its moment in the storytelling/quests. I won't get into it because spoilers, but some bits of the story are actually pretty neat. As mentioned above, it's a slow burn at first. The game only starts opening up after you reach Grand Soren. And the caravan escort leading there isn't the game's finest hour.
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I must've done that caravan escort at least 10 times... I really liked Dragons Dogma but never got more than 10-20 hours in before losing focus and dropping off. I heard the DLC content they added at the end of the game was very good too.
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L4D isn't one of the games that spent forever in Valve purgatory, and they famously turned around L4D2 in only a year. It's not a matter of throwing resources at a problem, it's a matter of the people involved prioritizing the right design aspects to make the game look and play better. Back 4 Blood looks superficially "better" because it has flashier effects and more detailed textures, but the design of the characters, the gameplay, and the effects are shallower and not as immersive. The premise of the video is that they went to make their true vision of L4D and just ended up recreating their boring Counterstrike prototype 
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explosivo posted:I must've done that caravan escort at least 10 times... I really liked Dragons Dogma but never got more than 10-20 hours in before losing focus and dropping off. I heard the DLC content they added at the end of the game was very good too. That would be Bitterblack Isle (BBI). It has its own minimalistic story and is basically a giant dungeon full of bosses which tunes every dial to 11. This is content that will challenge you even after you thought you had beaten the game. And yet, like the rest, you'll end up growing through it and pull off silly builds/numbers, to the point where the very last final boss only lasts a few seconds. This isn't too unexpected in a game where you get to farm Death itself, mind. The Dark Arisen version of the game on PC, which includes BBI, also includes some massive quality of life, giving you a permanent ferrystone: basically an unlimited teleport item. The twist is that you only ever teleport to previously found/collected/placed Portcrystals, so it's up to you to find the crystals and deploy your own teleport network as you want it. That's a pretty cool system as it does force you to explore for a while, but gives you the keys to the kingdom over time. Critically, all your placed Portcrystals remain if/when you launch a Speedrun Mode game (a separate one-off game starting at the beginning but with your character/pawn stats and gear as they are in the main game), so wise placement of the network in your main game is key to your timing.
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Anyone playing Spellforce 3? Is there any way to change which follower resurrects you or for them to do so automatically? I lost 45 minutes in that dumb journey mode because I died after I completed it because the dumbfuck AI wouldn't revive my character for whatever reason despite standing right next to them.
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Jimbot posted:Valve, at that point, could give any developer unlimited resources and time to work on whatever they wanted. I don't think Turtlerock had such luxury with Back 4 Blood. If such polish required them to crunch 80 hours a week for a few years then I'm glad it wasn't included. I'm sure Crowbcat thinks otherwise. This justification only makes sense if there’s evidence that L4D was developed under crunch but B4B wasn’t (my default assumption would be that they both were because the industry sucks) The video doesn’t really get into this as it’s harder to illustrate via video clips but a lot of the reasons B4B felt bad compared to L4D didn’t even have to do with polish, they were conscious decisions for the worse.
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Valve does(or at least did) have a reputation for crunch, but I would assume there was crunch on both titles without evidence to the contrary. It's a dumb bomb to throw around because only a handful of studios have publically committed to reducing or ending crunch and I'm sure it's as bad or worse if you drill down into the indie games sphere tbh. Comparing obviously different budget titles is generally a clickbait dick move but on the other hand, Valve had a well-earned reputation for clean character design and decent refined gameplay and clearly had a huge hand in the original l4d games. If they didn't have the resources to compete at that level they probably shouldn't have invited the comparison on themselves for marketing. (This was probably Warner Bros fault though) Edit: I'm not going to watch the vid tho so assume I called him an rear end in a top hat if he's being a jerk about it and I'll call it a day. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jan 4, 2022 |
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I played a few hours of Dragon’s Dogma years ago, then stopped for who knows what reason. Maybe I got distracted, etc. Does the game ever put the player into more varied and interesting environments than the basic starting aesthetic, meaning places that look a bit fancier than the stream of dilapidated, broken down medieval dung farm towns and villages you see in every video? The gameplay seems like it could be cool for a while but it seems like the game could get really boring really quick if it’s just, like, 50 hours slightly differently arranged versions of the same basic place. I only ask because I really haven’t seen any video clips of the game not looking like that.
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GreatGreen posted:I played a few hours of Dragon’s Dogma years ago, then stopped for who knows what reason. Maybe I got distracted, etc.
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