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The Shortest Path posted:Holy poo poo they really jacked up the power level of that game since I last played. It's like the opposite trajectory of where Magic went. Remember how beefy 120 HP Charizard and Chansey were? They broke 300 HP 3 years ago and attacks routinely deal 200
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BizarroAzrael posted:Sick, I have a bunch of walls I need to cover here, did you order that from somewhere or just find a HQ source of the art and get it printed professionally? If you or anyone wants Magic art, prints, cards autographed, or even original Magic art, I got the hook-ups. PM me!
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Unless things have changed even more radically since I played, cards are also just less valuable in pokemon than magic or ygo since there isn't combo proper. No matter how much of your deck you churn through you only get your one attack per turn, and you need to use resources to get more than one energy attach per turn (though I don't know how common/popular such things are). Now, the pokemon themselves these days have powercrept the early mons to an absurd degree, but I'm so lacking in context on modern cards that I don't know which are actually good to be posting examples of.
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The Shortest Path posted:Holy poo poo they really jacked up the power level of that game since I last played. It's like the opposite trajectory of where Magic went.
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Jan 2, 2022 21:47
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Yeah Pokemon power doesn't work the same way as other games, and it's similar to how ANR needs actions for things that you'd think are powerful in Magic but aren't actually that powerful due to actions being a tight resource. In a lot of ways Pokemon is much more skill testing than other card games because you will see and be able to tutor for any cards in your entire deck like 4 times over every game and it's impossible to win a game in under 5 turns or so in normal situations. Cards that are severe card disadvantage are actually extremely strong (like a tutor that makes you discard 2 cards to play it is so overpowered that it's an Ace card, where you're only allowed 1 Ace card in your entire deck). Of course there's other things that artificially add randomness to the game to get some of that back in obnoxious ways, like a lot of attacks and cards that make you flip a coin. The worst designed example is probably a card that I'm not sure was actually played in serious decks but it was a non-supporter trainer (free action with no limit) that said flip a coin, if heads draw 3 cards if tails do nothing. It's similar to Hearthstone where at face value the game should be incredibly skill testing and non random compared to Magic, but then every effect has some randomness in it that kills a lot of the competitiveness.
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I remember playing OG pokemon with a magic mindset and realizing Bill, Oak, and the "spells" were busted. Also evolutions were mostly a trap. I destroyed a few tournaments at GenCon one year with a deck where my dudes were Hitmonchan, Farfetch'd, and Jiggy/Wigglytuff. The rest of the deck was energy and spells.
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TheKingofSprings posted:You can play Pokemon to the bench to draw until you have 7 in hand without once per turn restrictions like the draw 3s all have. This card was so broken they changed the rules so that you couldn’t use a trainer card on the first turn
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It's still funny to me that YuGiOh and Pokemon both screwed themselves over early by making a major subset of cards free-to-play. Gotta get those cost systems in. Hadn't heard of Welder, but it's especially funny that the extra 'cost' of that card is also a bonus thing that accelerates you two turns. In MTG terms this is like a 0 cost spell that reads: "Add RR. If you do, draw three cards." Love it. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Jan 3, 2022 |
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Jan 3, 2022 03:33
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More like "put two basic mountains from your hand into play". Which is a cost of sorts because it requires to have them in hand somehow, but if you do meet that condition then it accelerates you massively. (In pokemon that card is played alongside  which solves that problem while also giving you even more card advantage!)
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Jan 3, 2022 03:48
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Fair. And lol, at least it gives each player the option so it's clearly balanced.
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Jan 3, 2022 03:53
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There's a lot metallurgy involved in what amounts to a fantasy cockfighting league.
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How is some dude's fireplace a pokemon stadium I have severe concerns about the lore.
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The Shortest Path posted:How is some dude's fireplace a pokemon stadium Whoa
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Given that the pokeball on the floor is usually the arena proper, those tables are like 10+ feet tall.
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Given that the pokeball on the floor is usually the arena proper, those tables are like 10+ feet tall. Well, it is called the GIANT Hearth, not the Average Size Hearth.
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Playing Pokemon TCG feels so weird compared to MtG. Everything feels so extremely powerful, but it's balanced by the fact that your opponent is just as capable as you are of doing busted stuff. It feels good to draw so many cards so easily though, that's for sure. It's so easy that the Supporters that draw you three cards are bad. Meanwhile an Ancestral Recall that costs 0 to play but can only be played once per turn would be utterly game-breaking in Magic.
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Jan 3, 2022 18:05
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Framboise posted:That's a wonderful card. Of course it'll be impossible to get here.   I hate it when I'm right.
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Assuming these are real, the power level of the land is extremely hard to evaluate. Also what's up with the set number of Eiganjo Uprising?
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Jan 3, 2022 21:28
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Land is good in a format without blood moon, not sure how it will do in modern and legacy. I think Death and Taxes probably doesn't want it but I could be wrong.
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Jan 3, 2022 21:30
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neaden posted:Land is good in a format without blood moon, not sure how it will do in modern and legacy. I think Death and Taxes probably doesn't want it but I could be wrong. Blood moon doesn't do anything to cards in hand.
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The Shortest Path posted:Assuming these are real, the power level of the land is extremely hard to evaluate. Also what's up with the set number of Eiganjo Uprising? Full art/whatever promo cards have higher collector numbers, here's all the Olivia in vow https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=released&q=%21%22Olivia%2C+Crimson+Bride%22+include%3Aextras&unique=prints
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Jan 3, 2022 21:38
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Mass token generation is something kinda new for W/R, isn't it? That's traditionally more of a W/G thing right?
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orangelex44 posted:Mass token generation is something kinda new for W/R, isn't it? That's traditionally more of a W/G thing right? Not really. Assemble the Legion is a good example of a WR token generator. It is more likely WG but yeah.
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orangelex44 posted:Mass token generation is something kinda new for W/R, isn't it? That's traditionally more of a W/G thing right? Depends on how you define "mass". IIRC Boros gets stuff like Heroic Reinforcements fairly often but this one is more flexible than that but very weird. If you left off the symmetrical token making it would be nuts.
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Blood moon doesn't do anything to cards in hand. Yeah but you'll be playing this as a land most of the time, the question is if it's worth replacing a plains for this.
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neaden posted:Yeah but you'll be playing this as a land most of the time, the question is if it's worth replacing a plains for this. 100% yes. Its not even close. Its a rad card and I hope more show up like it. Imagine this in black with an edict.
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Yeah there's virtually no trajectory for Standard or Historic where you don't replace at least one plains with one of these (and likewise for the rest of the cycle unless their effects are truly terrible). The question is when do you play more than one? I could see playing 2 sometimes in a two color deck and maybe 3 in a monowhite deck. But even with the channel effect, getting multiples is pretty dicey because you want the option to play it as a land in most cases.
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The first copy you put in your deck is almost completely free. Think of this like Oboro, Palace in the Clouds , but actually useful more than once a lifetime. This doesn't replace a single planes in your deck that you normally fetch for, single and two color decks can get away with a copy of this card very easily.
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So if it's a cycle (which it might be, we've seen a leak for the black one) then that doesn't hurt the red one, and also Ragavan is red and legendary. If you're wondering if you play them in Modern look at Shinka and Shizo seeing play in RB Lurrus/Rag/Kroxa decks. So if these channel effects are better than the RT: First Strike, or BT: Fear. Minamo and Eiganjo also see fringe play in moden. Minamo in the "U + Boil" manabases, which haven't really been a thing since Sactuary was banned and being boilproof stopped mattering. Mono white has never been good so Eiganjo was never more than a gimmick. IMO the channel effect is there to encourage you to play multiples. SO in standard/Historic you play at least 2 if you play any at all.
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HootTheOwl posted:So if it's a cycle (which it might be, we've seen a leak for the black one) then that doesn't hurt the red one, and also Ragavan is red and legendary. What was the black one then? And yeah card is dope. Can see two going into decks easily, but not sure about more.
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These are so much better than the vast majority of the MDFC lands from Zendikar which saw a shitload of standard play.
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Bugsy posted:What was the black one then? Takenuma, Abandoned Mire Channel, 3B: Mill 3 then return a creature or PW from GY to hand It was in the same leak as the new Horobi, which is the back-side of ...something. (O-Kagachi being the back-side of a saga suggests it also is a saga)
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Cedric and PSully split from SCG, I guess SCG isn't looking to do much coverage for the foreseeable future.
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Cedric and PSully split from SCG, I guess SCG isn't looking to do much coverage for the foreseeable future. https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sru0rt Most importantly, Resleevables podcast is still gonna happen. Cedric is moving to Denver and once he gets settled in, they'll start recording again.
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HootTheOwl posted:IMO the channel effect is there to encourage you to play multiples. SO in standard/Historic you play at least 2 if you play any at all. The first copy is a better Plains except for being nonbasic and nontyped, the second can gently caress up your curve. 1 is going to be the most common amount of these played. It's Channel which works with 1 copy not Grandeur which requires multiple (and if it was Grandeur, the ability would have to be better).
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orangelex44 posted:Mass token generation is something kinda new for W/R, isn't it? That's traditionally more of a W/G thing right? It goes back to at least Apocalypse with Goblin Trenches
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Cedric and PSully split from SCG, I guess SCG isn't looking to do much coverage for the foreseeable future. Hopefully they get brought in for coverage elsewhere if paper really gets going again
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Lone Goat posted:https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sru0rt Was wondering what was going happen as the last resleeveables was thanksgiving-ish, and no new recurring insight since then either. Here is ced's thing. https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sru0q6
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Lone Goat posted:https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sru0rt drat sad, scg coverage got me really invested in mtg when i started playing. But im happy hes doing what he wants
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