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Grendels Dad posted:As someone who has met altogether too many people who weren't trying very hard at all, I find it more and more difficult to understand what people mean when they use 'tryhard' in a derogatory way. I think it gets overused. Tryhard shouldn’t mean “someone who actually gives a poo poo”. It should be reserved for someone who tries too hard, to the point where they become disconnected from the context—especially the social context—of whatever they’re doing. For instance, if there’s a multiplayer video game with a casual mode, a tryhard is someone who gets mad that their teammates aren’t playing optimally, disregarding that someone playing casually might care more about having fun than about winning. My em dash usage above is also pretty tryhard because this is a post on a dead comedy forum and using it only makes me stand out as someone who cares too much about the distinction between em dashes and parentheses.
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Grendels Dad posted:As someone who has met altogether too many people who weren't trying very hard at all, I find it more and more difficult to understand what people mean when they use 'tryhard' in a derogatory way. tryhards make things weird by overdoing it or just acting very contrived
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Okay well to clarify I used the term to mean the way a lot of modern DC media is very concerned with being as rated R as possible and ends up becoming very juvenile as a result. Like yes it's funny to see Robotman yell "gently caress!" with Brendan Frasier's voice but I'm less interested in Dick Grayson graphically breaking a criminal's bones. I apologize for using "tryhard" to oversimplify these thoughts, but it's the word that came to mind (due to the aforementioned Twitter brain-poisoning). The new Batman definitely strikes me as possibly overgrim and self-serious, but (at least from the trailers) it looks like it could be on the right side of "adult" where it gets to tell a classic Batman detective story without the constraints of Saturday morning programming. We won't know for sure until March though!
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We already have 'grimdark' for this. Hell, there was the whole Dark Age of comic books where they all did this, and coincidentally it's about when kids all stopped reading them.
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Frankly I think the entire entertainment industry, outside of niche youtubers, could use a lot more trying hard.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:We already have 'grimdark' for this. That's another word that barely means anything.
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“Tryhard” and “Grimdark” is primarily used by people to describe anything that tries to take itself seriously or set a certain tone, usually when the person in question thinks it should just be a big dumb loud fun movie instead. I see this a lot in the Bond thread, for example.
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Schwarzwald posted:That's another word that barely means anything. Point there, from being abused into uselessness. 'Edgy'? There's definitely a particular vein of the 'We can have BLOOD and SWEARS! Are you SHOCKED?! Isn't this GROWN-UP?!' that kids immediately turn off as cringetastic unless they're an extremely specific demographic and/or watching amateur animations on Newgrounds. man nurse posted:“Tryhard” and “Grimdark” is primarily used by people to describe anything that tries to take itself seriously or set a certain tone, usually when the person in question thinks it should just be a big dumb loud fun movie instead. Yeah, a lot of people seem genuinely angered by anything that's not constantly reassuring them is meant to be empty spectacle they don't have to actually pay attention to.
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This is a non sequitur to whatever is going on in the thread currently but holy poo poo I am hyped for Across the Spiderverse
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hiddenriverninja posted:This is a non sequitur to whatever is going on in the thread currently but holy poo poo I am hyped for Across the Spiderverse A Spider-man musical? That doesn't bode well.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A Spider-man musical? That doesn't bode well.
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And I just learned there was apparently going to be an Attack on Titan stage show, but a key acrobat fell to his death so early on in testing out the wire suspension systems that they ended up cancelling the entire thing.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:We already have 'grimdark' for this. Hell, there was the whole Dark Age of comic books where they all did this, and coincidentally it's about when kids all stopped reading them. Kids were reading more comics than ever - the direct market and decline of newsstands (i.e. comics books anywhere and everywhere) killed comics.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And I just learned there was apparently going to be an Attack on Titan stage show, but a key acrobat fell to his death so early on in testing out the wire suspension systems that they ended up cancelling the entire thing. Japan loves doing stage adaptations of anime for some reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IQYm6ZwsUE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKandZqE4Wk
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Hello, I have a question, and, maybe it's been answered already? But I can't actually find any mentions of it in all the clickbait articles all over the net, but, in Spiderman: No Way Home, Who was the dude in the background in the white negative space, in the rift during the spell at the beginning? Not Kraven or Rhino that we see at the end, but actually during the spell? It looked sorta silver surfer-esque, in that it just seemed to be quite a generic humanoid shape, but, in the moment it felt like it was going to be the Watcher or Sentry or something, just because of how 'otherworldly' it seemed, and how it was aware of the two of them there. Maybe it's just Kraven or maybe even Electro or something and I just couldn't make it out properly at the time, haven't been able to find a clip of it either. maybe I'm reading more into it than I should and it was just nothing specific, but that seems unlikely given it's a Marvel movie.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Kids were reading more comics than ever - the direct market and decline of newsstands (i.e. comics books anywhere and everywhere) killed comics.
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Timeless Appeal posted:To be clear, that killed floppy mostly superhero comic books. Manga and more slice of life graphic novels like Raina Telgemeier's stuff is not only loving huge but also moved into classrooms which wasn't something comics were doing in the 90s. Not so! I distinctly remember being given a comic in school about fire safety.
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Maybe we need Comix movies. Where's my Mr. Natural origin?
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Grendels Dad posted:As someone who has met altogether too many people who weren't trying very hard at all, I find it more and more difficult to understand what people mean when they use 'tryhard' in a derogatory way. blastron posted:I think it gets overused. Tryhard shouldn’t mean “someone who actually gives a poo poo”. It should be reserved for someone who tries too hard, to the point where they become disconnected from the context—especially the social context—of whatever they’re doing. For instance, if there’s a multiplayer video game with a casual mode, a tryhard is someone who gets mad that their teammates aren’t playing optimally, disregarding that someone playing casually might care more about having fun than about winning. My em dash usage above is also pretty tryhard because this is a post on a dead comedy forum and using it only makes me stand out as someone who cares too much about the distinction between em dashes and parentheses. This morphed, like, within a month. If you won convincingly through playing well and beat people who were just trying to 360-no-scope all day in any FPS game, people just called you try-hards. This happened right around the Black Ops 1 release period if i recall correctly. It basically became an excuse for losing and saying "well we weren't really trying to win, unlike you!" Now it morphed to: Ghost Leviathan posted:Yeah, a lot of people seem genuinely angered by anything that's not constantly reassuring them is meant to be empty spectacle they don't have to actually pay attention to. ...where Disney movies figured out the formula of actively telling you that you don't have to take the setting or the universe seriously whenever anything fantastical or earnest happens because the characters themselves ALSO make a joke about it. With Snyder being the complete inverse to this, and compare reactions from the same demographic to those specific things. I do like that MCU Spider-man 3 steps back from this a bit and allows some emotion to live without someone joking about it. Also why the snap in Infinity worked so well too.
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"Tryhard" just reminds me of the IDLES song "Never Fight a Man With a Perm", so I just keep listening to that all day whenever I see this convo
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MokBa posted:Okay well to clarify I used the term to mean the way a lot of modern DC media is very concerned with being as rated R as possible and ends up becoming very juvenile as a result. Like yes it's funny to see Robotman yell "gently caress!" with Brendan Frasier's voice but I'm less interested in Dick Grayson graphically breaking a criminal's bones. I apologize for using "tryhard" to oversimplify these thoughts, but it's the word that came to mind (due to the aforementioned Twitter brain-poisoning).
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Spiderman thoughts: it was alright  i hate the constant need to grind the movie to a halt for a bunch of awkward banter that goes on forever and isn’t the least bit funny
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The United States posted:That's edgelord, not tryhard Oh yeah that’s the word I wanted. My brain completely spaced on which silly internet teenager term I needed and now I’ve started an incredibly stupid derail. Whoops!
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I don't think it's a stupid derail, this stuff stands in the way of understanding each other and of discussion.Augus posted:Spiderman thoughts: it was alright Come on over to the Spider-Man thread if you want to talk about it somemore.
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Wait..................... they are really going to make more Andrew Garfield Spiderman movies? LOL
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Point there, from being abused into uselessness. 'Edgy'? There's definitely a particular vein of the 'We can have BLOOD and SWEARS! Are you SHOCKED?! Isn't this GROWN-UP?!' that kids immediately turn off as cringetastic unless they're an extremely specific demographic and/or watching amateur animations on Newgrounds. I spent well over a year getting to Supreme Commander and am currently Level 38 on Newgrounds. I did that specifically so I could have more power to nuke stupid loving poo poo like that.
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mcmagic posted:Wait..................... they are really going to make more Andrew Garfield Spiderman movies? LOL
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Me, I’m making them
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omg chael crash posted:Me, I’m making them Thank you
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Edward Mass posted:Maybe we need Comix movies. Where's my Mr. Natural origin? iirc some of his material will not have aged well
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Crows Turn Off posted:According to who? https://cvbj.biz/confirmed-sony-to-produce-the-amazing-spider-man-3-with-andrew-garfield.html Maybe this is a bad source?
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mcmagic posted:https://cvbj.biz/confirmed-sony-to-produce-the-amazing-spider-man-3-with-andrew-garfield.html Hmm looks legit: quote:fbq('init', '1384358188242876'); fbq('track', 'PageView'); lmao
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mcmagic posted:https://cvbj.biz/confirmed-sony-to-produce-the-amazing-spider-man-3-with-andrew-garfield.html quote:At this point, dear reader, we did not want to say to you, but “innocent little dove that you allowed yourself to be fooled”, happy April Fool’s Day! Although the news is actually a joke, we hope that Sony will not take long to give the good news about the production of The Amazing Spider-Man 3.
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Martman posted:I don't think they understand how April Fool's Day works... Motherfucker
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Kids were reading more comics than ever - the direct market and decline of newsstands (i.e. comics books anywhere and everywhere) killed comics. I wasn't aware that the grimdark era started in the 1960s.
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It’s gonna be fully poo poo isn’t it?
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Sandwolf posted:It’s gonna be fully poo poo isn’t it? Why wouldn't it be?
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Sandwolf posted:It’s gonna be fully poo poo isn’t it? I mean I feel like it will be but at very least this seems to be more "Sony has enough confidence in it doing well they don't want to release it in the middle of a gigantic pandemic upswing."
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