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aphid_licker posted:Not sure what fuckery that guy is up to, heat related deaths alone have increased by 150k in the last 20y 800k died of COVID in the US, and that's just the ones they counted, and they barely even give a poo poo.
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Jan 4, 2022 00:21
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what happened to that paralyzing disease that was striking midwestern children but only every other year that was big in the news in like 2015?
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Jan 4, 2022 01:17
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 no idea if these numbers are right or where they came from, but they sound true
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Jan 4, 2022 03:50
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Real hurthling! posted:what happened to that paralyzing disease that was striking midwestern children but only every other year that was big in the news in like 2015?
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Jan 4, 2022 04:05
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Real hurthling! posted:what happened to that paralyzing disease that was striking midwestern children but only every other year that was big in the news in like 2015? FFT posted:acute flaccid myelitis had '14, '16, and '18 outbreaks but "dunno lol" is the answer to your question i dunno wtf, but reading theses posts made me  irl
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Jan 4, 2022 04:26
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that can't be that much, considering EVs don't actually do any good
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Jan 4, 2022 04:45
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NM wrong thread
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Jan 4, 2022 04:53
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q4fubFcaig
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Jan 4, 2022 05:32
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Spime Wrangler posted:
Don't forget brake pads too!
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Jan 4, 2022 06:24
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Hubbert posted:Don't forget brake pads too! Microplastics left behind by tyres and brake pads a major source of ocean pollution - study quote:More than 200,000 tonnes of small plastic particles deposited on roads all over the globe are being carried by global winds into the oceans, the study shows. welp
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Jan 4, 2022 06:40
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Don't worry we're replacing stinky cars with EVs
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Jan 4, 2022 06:56
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FFT posted:what, brake pads don't have -- They used asbestos before plastics. Which is worse?  I assume there are no good materials
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Jan 4, 2022 07:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPMbLO4pAY
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Jan 4, 2022 07:46
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Ihmemies posted:They used asbestos before plastics. Which is worse?
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Jan 4, 2022 07:47
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Ihmemies posted:They used asbestos before plastics. Which is worse? before that we used wood and stone. granite tires would probably be okay but also lol the ride would suck rear end
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Jan 4, 2022 07:48
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That guy is averaging out climate deaths per decade and only plotting that result, beyond whatever other fuckery he’s done in the sources
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Jan 4, 2022 07:52
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wynott dunn posted:That guy is averaging out climate deaths per decade and only plotting that result, beyond whatever other fuckery he’s done in the sources He's a statistician, he knows exactly what he's doing. He was also funded by the Danish government to push his bullshit for like a decade.
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Jan 4, 2022 08:30
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Jan 4, 2022 11:30
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That's really weird because it frames the former as a good thing (by contrasting it with the latter with that but) but then the subheading frames it as a bad thing anyway. Make up your mind headline!
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Jan 4, 2022 12:49
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Cloks posted:that can't be that much, considering EVs don't actually do any good Usually with EVs the math is either ignoring the emissions in the supply chain used to create them, the emissions created by the energy that powers them or both. So if you ignore the mining of the minerals, the fabrication of parts, the fossil fuel power plants, and the rubber tires and then do a straight mileage comparison between gas and electric engine emissions only when they drive then they have a huge impact on paper if you ignore that passenger car emissions are meaningless at this point. Rectal Death Adept has issued a correction as of 13:33 on Jan 4, 2022 |
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Jan 4, 2022 13:30
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Crack pinging this morning realizing that the real situation is much worse than in Don't Look Up. In the movie the world population had to accept a comet they couldn't see was coming for them. And it wasn't until sometime later that the comet would've been visible on backyard telescopes (this was absent from the movie? self, individual verification?). Meanwhile in the real world extreme weather happens with terrifying frequency, people live and experience this weather and even if there's no extreme weather for them personally they still experience the huge temperature swings or the anomalous weather days (70F in February, something like this). And still no one acts like the world's ending. Yes I am writing this after experiencing a 37F swing in 48hrs, why do you ask? lol. lmlao
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Jan 4, 2022 13:39
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At least I'm not in Texas https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1478073030945517573
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Jan 4, 2022 13:49
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Crack pinging this morning realizing that the real situation is much worse than in Don't Look Up. In the movie the world population had to accept a comet they couldn't see was coming for them. And it wasn't until sometime later that the comet would've been visible on backyard telescopes (this was absent from the movie? self, individual verification?). Meanwhile in the real world extreme weather happens with terrifying frequency, people live and experience this weather and even if there's no extreme weather for them personally they still experience the huge temperature swings or the anomalous weather days (70F in February, something like this). And still no one acts like the world's ending. Yes I am writing this after experiencing a 37F swing in 48hrs, why do you ask? lol. lmlao Haven't even finished the denial phase yet LOL
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Jan 4, 2022 13:52
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No really, I think there will be a big millennialist thing at least here in the US. Too heavily invested in their King James bobble and these war cheerleaders with degrees in divinity.
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Jan 4, 2022 14:23
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https://twitter.com/Ayishas12/status/1478339725152952321 Looking forward to seeing more young people coming to grips with the fact that their parents and grandparents ushered them into hell
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Jan 4, 2022 14:26
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Crack pinging this morning realizing that the real situation is much worse than in Don't Look Up. In the movie the world population had to accept a comet they couldn't see was coming for them. And it wasn't until sometime later that the comet would've been visible on backyard telescopes (this was absent from the movie? self, individual verification?). Meanwhile in the real world extreme weather happens with terrifying frequency, people live and experience this weather and even if there's no extreme weather for them personally they still experience the huge temperature swings or the anomalous weather days (70F in February, something like this). And still no one acts like the world's ending. Yes I am writing this after experiencing a 37F swing in 48hrs, why do you ask? lol. lmlao I think large temperature swings create severe weather too right? like tornados, wind events etc
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Jan 4, 2022 14:26
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Perry Mason Jar posted:In the movie the world population had to accept a comet they couldn't see was coming for them. And it wasn't until sometime later that the comet would've been visible on backyard telescopes (this was absent from the movie? self, individual verification?). That's another thing I didn't really like about the film. I guess it's not really relevant to the film's message but it annoyed me that the discoverer was somehow the first to notice it in the sky by sheer chance and when they looked at it it was just loving massive already. And then they spread the word and everyone was looking at it whereas before nobody had noticed it for some reason. In reality people would be hunting for it from day 1, everyone would know where to look (using a constellation or something) and it would slowly become visible to ever less powerful telescopes until it could be seen by the naked eye while squinting. But I guess there's not much drama in that.
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Jan 4, 2022 14:33
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It's not an accident or coincidence, the film is always saying Believe the Experts. It directs you to take Science on faith. Which is not how science is correctly practiced but is a liberal credo despite.
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Jan 4, 2022 14:36
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we haven’t even entered the denial phase as a society. we are still mostly unbelieving as if a fortune teller told us we have cancer. shits gonna be wild when everybody knows the game is over, like when a doctor tells you, you have stage 4 cancer. when there is a multi year rolling dust bowl and famine hits America, that’s when you will see the true denial hit.
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Jan 4, 2022 14:41
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Yeah, it wouldn't work as a metaphor to have it any other way. I guess the visibility of the comet in the film is the realisation of climate related disasters in real life. In the film the denialists refuse to look up and see the comet, in the same way climate denialists refuse to see the disasters (as climate-caused or, if they accept them as climate-caused, then human-caused via climate change). In that way it tracks pretty well, except nobody is dying of seeing the comet in the film.
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Jan 4, 2022 14:41
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Usually with EVs the math is either ignoring the emissions in the supply chain used to create them, the emissions created by the energy that powers them or both. Comparing new EVs to new ICE the EV is better for the climate within a year of driving, even accounting for the increased emissions from manufacturing the EV. So what do we as a society do? We commodify that environmental benefit, give it bonuses, and sell it so that 1-3x more emissions can be released in exchange. That’s why technological solutions can’t work, because our social and power structures will instantly co-op any good from them and instead use it to make things worse. If we had fusion in America or Europe today, we’d be selling fusion based RECs to keep coal plants operating and call it green.
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Jan 4, 2022 14:57
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Perry Mason Jar posted:At least I'm not in Texas Being in Texas the last 4 days has been a fun exercise of "COVID or weather change" as the transition from 92 to 37 in 2 days did a number on my sinuses
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Jan 4, 2022 15:02
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https://www.wired.com/story/the-quest-to-trap-carbon-in-stone-and-beat-climate-change/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB I can't read the article so I'm going to pretend it's building up to a vicious take down of tech based climate change solutions and not a bingo on the cspam board. quote:The Quest to Trap Carbon in Stone—and Beat Climate Change Only need 10,000 of these apparently and not 10,000,00, that's heartening.
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Jan 4, 2022 15:36
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I'm still waiting for a major country to go "Fuckit" and launch a massive atmospherical dimming effort.
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Jan 4, 2022 15:57
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:That's another thing I didn't really like about the film. I guess it's not really relevant to the film's message but it annoyed me that the discoverer was somehow the first to notice it in the sky by sheer chance and when they looked at it it was just loving massive already. And then they spread the word and everyone was looking at it whereas before nobody had noticed it for some reason. Yeah and at that point other astronomers would take over advocacy if DiCaprio wasn’t up to the task. They were like eh some Mexican astronomers are checking, but the whole world could check it out. Which is why I wonder why the US was leading the charge on it while obviously not taking it seriously at all.
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Jan 4, 2022 16:23
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https://twitter.com/SusannaMcCoy19/status/1478349158570463232 https://twitter.com/nation_based/status/1478379728394502151
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Jan 4, 2022 16:52
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I'm the town of Bumpass
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Jan 4, 2022 16:55
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Don't Look Up sounds like someone wanted to rewrite the planet killing asteroid from The Last Policeman as a take on Idiocracy instead of a detective novel.
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Jan 4, 2022 17:13
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Usually with EVs the math is either ignoring the emissions in the supply chain used to create them, the emissions created by the energy that powers them or both. if the numbers come from anything like a reputable source this is false and has been for decades if you want to cast doubt on real studies there's all kinds of skeletons in the closet of the life cycle data industry but none that are gross negligence like you're describing. usually it's something like "we only have swedish data for this process" or "they burn a different type of coal in less efficient plants in that part of the world" or "we made a different assumption about this life cycle phase than the other guys for this reason."
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Jan 4, 2022 17:25
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defending every electric vehicle vs internal combustion engine comparison as completely accounting for all systematic inputs for the past 20 years is a pretty bold stance
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