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I really appreciate the mini-reviews, thank you guys! You know what's funny? For some reason in my brain, "Dry British humor" was all the synopsis I needed to go "Okay yeah- no matter how hosed up this gets, it's not going to be the wallowing in sorrow kind of hosed up." (Unless it has a Blackadder level or something.) Lastly this is probably 100% down to YMMV, but I'm going back and forth on two things that are about the same price. On one hand, three really highly-regarded games (well, two games and one DLC) that I've heard nothing but great things about : Death's Door Unsighted Prey - Mooncrash On the flip side, for a couple bucks more I could get Flight Simulator 2020 instead. I'm on the arcadey side of flight sims (I love learning how planes/flight planning/navigation works, but the thought of getting a flightstick and rudders instead of using a controller makes me wanna barf), and I've heard some really awful things about how hard FS2020 is to get working, so am I right in thinking that the value proposition skews hard towards the indie stuff unless I'm a really big sim fan?
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Epic seems to have the idea that you don't really have to offer anything to customers to get them to switch to your service when you can make a bunch of deals with other businesses instead. It kind of rubs me the wrong way. I did buy Control when it came out there though so it works to some degree and I can certainly see why developers would like it
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Well you see Steam is like a Mercedes with all the features and Epic is like a Tesla because anti-magic posted:I found their Whedon-esque banter loving interminable. Also once it's revealed that she's his daughter, it becomes loving gross that they continue to banter like the leads that are supposed to inevitably hook up at the end of the series / movie / game. I was shocked no one brings that fact up and had to google it make sure I wasn't going insane. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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Jan 5, 2022 04:48
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Omi no Kami posted:
Did you get Prey for free on Epic recently? Because it came with Mooncrash.
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The best reason to hate EGS is that it's chasing the idea of "burn cash, secure market share, stop benefiting the user" Their projected goal is to get like 1/2 of the market then completely stop giving out free games and signing exclusives. Their burning billions in Fortnite cash ever year to make this happen and all the problems with the storefront sure as hell aren't going away once they reach market dominance.
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they won't reach market dominance because no one is actually buying anything there. everyone is just getting the free games, occasionally buying during those $10 coupon sales, and that's it their exclusive titles all have dismal sales numbers e: and that's not really a shocker, when you give so many high profile games away, no one wants to buy anything in the hopes that it becomes a giveaway The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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Jan 5, 2022 04:55
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I'll give Epic this: their storefront is better than the Microsoft storefront.
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Triarii posted:Honestly I don't think this would get them any users either. You make a platform that has all of the same features as steam and a UI that's just as nice, nobody's going to switch to it, because steam is already where all the games are. Steam charges publishers quite a lot. You could still undercut Steam on the royalties. Take less off the top than Steam and see what happens. The Lone Badger posted:I'll give Epic this: their storefront is better than the Microsoft storefront. That is true, Epic does only have the 2nd worst online storefront.
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Any time a character makes a joke, the sins of Joss Whedon are brought upon us.
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Harminoff posted:It's kind of funny to me because I used to work in cable customer service and everyone always wanted everything to be "ala carte" and I had to explain how that was a bad idea, and would make everything more expensive. The issue is that its not channels with a focused theme, but instead its based on what the media company has the rights to, and thus they have a whole bunch of stuff you're not interested in, and a handful of shows in the genres you like. If every streaming service was like Shudder, it would work a lot better.
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Rusty posted:I haven't played it much, but I have had some hilarious matches. Here's where we get pushed back to one tower so it's like 50 of us in one room getting slaughtered one by one. Those kinds of last stands are fun and sometimes they even work out and you win in the end! Feels great. Frog Act posted:holdfast is great, I play it a few times a month and it never gets boring. it always has a few consistently full servers, too. my current fantasy is holdfast VR which would just be so much fun Same, I'll play off and on and it's always a good time.
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Waste of Breath posted:Which channel is Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash in this analogy? Skinemax
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GreatGreen posted:Steam charges publishers quite a lot. You could still undercut Steam on the royalties. Epic is actually doing just that, they take a 12% cut instead of Valve's 30%. (On the other hand, Valve only takes that cut on sales directly through their storefront, as far as I understand developers can generate an unlimited number of keys to sell on other storefronts, all for free)
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Hub Cat posted:What? Their banter was never sexual and Colt only thought it was because he is a hot-blooded idiot. Colt's tone completely changes after the reveal even though they still have kind of a friendly rivalry. It's really only feels gross because it fucks with player expectations and it's a very funny reversal imo. I have absolutely no idea what you mean by their banter being Whedon-esque. It was always flirty though, like they had written all the dialogue well before they thought of the twist and then didn't want to re-record it. I never got a broken father-daughter relationship from their exchanges, it still read way too much like every combative male-female lead from any number of movies. It's an awful reversal because it never turns into anything interesting, they just throw it out there to be like "psyche!" and then who cares? They certainly didn't. It's probably wrong to say Whedon-esque but their exchanges are a lot of trying to out-smarm one another with Colt inevitably face-planting. A lot of eye-rollingly bad insults and tortuous sentence; the lineage can be traced back to his work. I think I am just turning into a grumpy old man about those kind of character relationships and writing since I inundated myself with it as a teenager and now I can't stand any of it.
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ymgve posted:Epic is actually doing just that, they take a 12% cut instead of Valve's 30%. (On the other hand, Valve only takes that cut on sales directly through their storefront, as far as I understand developers can generate an unlimited number of keys to sell on other storefronts, all for free) So that's how that other sites selling steam keys works 🤯
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SirSamVimes posted:Mostly sensible chuckles, and the occasional belly laugh. the game's hookshot made me cross but i have to genuinely respect "ok, hit the word count"
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Volte posted:I think Epic's use of huge sums of money to strongarm devs into being EGS-exclusive is ultimately bad even if the devs themselves do okay relative speaking. Most devs aren't really in a position to turn down a good payday so Epic essentially holds all the cards and simply decides which games they want to keep off Steam, which is not a very healthy thing to have going on in the ecosystem. The idea that they're doing the devs a benevolent service is just a PR illusion. If they wanted to they could give devs a good payday with their Fortnite billions just to be on EGS in the first place and still allow them to go on Steam. They'd generate more goodwill that way and could still get people to use EGS via more traditional tactics like sales and coupons instead of trying to monopolize particular games. I think the devs are entitled to be paid for their work, and egs exclusivity effectively gives you a second bugfree launch when you come to steam.
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the only thing i know about binding of isaac is that it's good, and it's about child abuse. i don't think i can gently caress with that. is my impression wrong? and i'm buying tabletop simulator because holy crap how come i never heard of that before. idk if i'm buying caves of qud but if you plan to, do it now. the price goin up soon.
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That's roughly correct. These days, the big advantage it has over other games in the genre is that it lets you ball out of control with good luck/systems knowledge more than any other similar game. A lot of the fun of it is seeing how weird and hosed-up and powerful your character gets as the run goes on and you pick up more upgrades, most of which modify your character visually. The child abuse stuff isn't super present in-game, it's mostly in the intro and endings and in between it's all sort of goofy and cartoony, but you are playing as a crying naked child and several of your enemies are dead children so I could understand that putting you off.
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The art style and thematics are just repugnant in every way and the worst thing about BOI for sure
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Mescal posted:the only thing i know about binding of isaac is that it's good, and it's about child abuse. i don't think i can gently caress with that. is my impression wrong? The game is about running through it over and over unlocking power ups and having randomness decide whether you end up with a challenging run or an cakewalk or something in between. You're not going to get spoiled in any meaningful way by watching someone else play it for a bit to decide.
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Binding of Isaac is about child abuse in the same way Doom is about the dangers of capitalism
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Removed from wishlist. Thx
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ymgve posted:Binding of Isaac is about child abuse in the same way Doom is about the dangers of capitalism So it’s about that?
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Away all Goats posted:So that's how that other sites selling steam keys works 🤯 sebmojo posted:I think the devs are entitled to be paid for their work, and egs exclusivity effectively gives you a second bugfree launch when you come to steam.
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Yeah this seems to be a regular stumbling point in the discourse around EGS - I don't hate devs who go Epic exclusive, I just hate Epic exclusives and Epic in general.
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ymgve posted:Epic is actually doing just that, they take a 12% cut instead of Valve's 30%. (On the other hand, Valve only takes that cut on sales directly through their storefront, as far as I understand developers can generate an unlimited number of keys to sell on other storefronts, all for free) Well, they're doing half that. Undercutting Steam is necessary to get publishers onboard, but a decent UI and store / library is absolutely necessary for players to hop on as well, and Epic's store / library functionality is poo poo.
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By the way, for anybody interested in this kind of thing, I just picked up Horizon Zero Dawn and after the intro, I was presented with a EULA from Sony about data collection. I could either allow them to collect "limited data" or "limited and extended data." "Limited" data included a whole bunch of user telemetry, system information including IP address, and recently visited websites. No way to opt out. Fuuuuck that. Requested a refund and uninstalled immediately so hopefully that's the end of that. Don't care how good that game may or may not be.
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Steam offers so much to the developments in terms of features and ready-made infrastructure that EGS' lower cut is still only worth it for the biggest publishers.
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I wish Steam would fix whatever crap is deciding me logging in on the same computer after their own site breaks and tells me to log out and back in is a security risk of my account. Or even worse, after I get logged out just going to my account.
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Justin_Brett posted:I wish Steam would fix whatever crap is deciding me logging in on the same computer after their own site breaks and tells me to log out and back in is a security risk of my account. Or even worse, after I get logged out just going to my account. Are you using 2FA? Because my first thought is that "whatever crap" is someone else also trying to use your account.
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Nah, all the codes I've gotten in the last few months are from me triggering them.
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Protocol7 posted:Cruelty Squad sure is a game. Interesting enough to keep me hooked, for sure. not only is it a game . . . it's the game
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https://twitter.com/CrueltySquadBot/status/1476940901435932672
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Hot take but the music in UNBEATABLE [white label] kinda sucks. Everything else is pretty impeccable but I haven't heard music that boring in a long time, especially in a rhythm game.
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Finishing up D:OS 2 with a friend and before the sale ends I'd like to grab our next game - any recommendations? We specifically prefer co-op that's campaign/narrative, similar to Original Sin or RE5. That's not a deal breaker but I'm not looking for something that's purely multiplayer/pvp. Also I'm in California and he's in Maryland so need it to be online - know that there's not a ton of games out there that fit that profile but would appreciate any suggestions! Besides what I've mentioned here are some co-op titles we've already hit: Broforce Dying Light Far Cry 5 Halo MCC Risk of Rain Streets of Rogue
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Remnant: From the Ashes
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Jerusalem posted:I don't have any qualms with Io taking the exclusivity deal, even though it meant I've had to wait so long for more Hitman, because it was nice to know that after they were on the verge of bankruptcy the deal basically recovered all their development costs entirely and let them keep the lights on, and now they're making a James Bond game Glad I kept reading the thread instead of going instantly for a reply, because I couldn't agree more with this. Not only are they still around, they're also independent. They won't care about lost sales because they went with a year of Epic exclusivity, because it's the best selling game in the series. Perhaps the next-gen consoles carried that number, but I imagine it will still have a long tail on PC. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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Whoever recommended Umurangi Generation (and I think there were a couple of people), holy poo poo, thank you. What a fantastic experience. I can't recommend it enough, and don't want to go too far into spoiler territory but the cyberpunk-Maori-kaiju-Hypnospace aesthetic and music fits an incredibly angry message that is not something you often see in games. Good stuff.
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