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spacetoaster posted:Has anyone been able to buy a playstation 5? I've been looking for well over a year now (I'm not paying a reseller double). Yeah, the playstation direct shop was what did it for me after way too much time wasted with the twitter restock bots. Just be patient and lucky, I guess.
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Just wondering, but when it comes to Virtual Desktop, if I have a quest, is the best one to buy the one in the quest store? The one listed on steam just literally says NOT FOR QUEST in the description, so I'm guessing that's a big clue not to buy it.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Just wondering, but when it comes to Virtual Desktop, if I have a quest, is the best one to buy the one in the quest store? The one listed on steam just literally says NOT FOR QUEST in the description, so I'm guessing that's a big clue not to buy it. Virtual Desktop on Steam is not what you want because it'll just run Virtual Desktop, on your desktop. Virtual Desktop on the Quest store is downloaded and run from the Quest itself. There is a partner application you run on the desktop so that the app on the Quest can communicate with and work like Air Link.
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Tip posted:there's a big difference between eye tracking that's acceptable to use as a controller and eye tracking that's acceptable to use for dynamic foveated rendering That was the consensus for a long time, and I agreed with it, but having done some tests of moving foveation recently I'm not so sure any more. If I look quickly from a high detail area to a low detail area it takes a moment for me to notice the quality change, and there's no immediate discomfort. You might not be able to get away with as big a quality difference as you could with frame-perfect eye tracking, but from what I've seen it seems like even quarter-second eye tracking would be enough to get a meaningful performance boost without noticeable downsides.
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Jan 5, 2022 08:35
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vaginite posted:Heard mixed/bad reviews on the official Quest 2 strap/battery pack combo - is there one folks are recommending? I have this one and love it: https://www.bobovr.com/product/m2pro/
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Jan 5, 2022 08:45
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I do wonder about what will be the price of PSVR2. HDR + OLED + force feedback on the headset itself + eye tracking, and the previous leak said it would use the new pancake lenses (in fact it seems the manufacturer/model will surely be the same as Cambria).+2 controllers, which psvr1 didn't include, right?
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Jan 5, 2022 12:22
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https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1478413358722256899 https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1478607127031607298
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Jan 5, 2022 12:40
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I wonder what any of that means in practice
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I wonder what any of that means in theory
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Jan 5, 2022 13:48
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I wonder if that guy thinks mini LED is some grand new technology and not an established middle ground between LED and OLED. No-one thinks you're crazy saying a headset will use mini LED, it makes perfect sense. I couldn't get a straight answer from a search on what uOLED is though, seems to basically be small OLED screens focused on mobile tech so again, makes perfect sense for a VR headset.
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Jan 5, 2022 14:09
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He’s making claims of him persevering and being correct for the likes I would guess Not that he’s wrong about the tech, just his persecution
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Jan 5, 2022 14:20
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njsykora posted:I couldn't get a straight answer from a search on what uOLED is though if that u is a µ, microLED is the Next Big Thing in screens. basically OLED without any of the downsides. last i heard it was still not close to being feasible for normal TV sizes, so i imagine it's even farther out for tiny screens? e: uOLED? huh
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Jan 5, 2022 14:42
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Nicer screens are cool, but the ones we have are fine; all I really care about at this stage is massively increasing the FOV, I would take that over literally any other upgrade.
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Jan 5, 2022 15:06
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Yeah I agree. Current headsets have next to no screen door effect and the colors are good. Focus on letting us see more of the scene
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Jan 5, 2022 15:09
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Shine posted:I have this one and love it: https://www.bobovr.com/product/m2pro/ Picking this up - thank you!
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Jan 5, 2022 16:27
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I was bummed out when I saw the FOV for VR2 is 110. I would like to see 140 at a minimum. Bummer.
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Jan 5, 2022 16:30
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Nuts and Gum posted:I’m so in with Sony VR this round. Outside of boneworks and Alyx, PCVR hasn’t done anything interesting. Might as well go for extremely polished AAA first party Sony titles, especially with their insane rumble/haptic trigger poo poo. I would probably wait for those titles to manifest given the first gen of Sony VR
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Jan 5, 2022 17:09
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JUNGLE BOY posted:I would probably wait for those titles to manifest given the first gen of Sony VR Yeah, really. I have the PSVR and it was a great way to get me to buy the quest but that's mostly it.
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Jan 5, 2022 17:13
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Nuts and Gum posted:The specs look insane already, so I’m sure it’s a cost saving measure. I’d rather pay for my own audio than compromise elsewhere. Hows Beat Saber on PSVR? Not that Sony cant do anything cool, but there is stuff on PCVR that just cant happen on Playstation
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Jan 5, 2022 17:15
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That's a good question, though. Is Beat Saber coming for PSVR2?
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I am looking forward to PSVR2, and I can't wait to struggle to be able to secure one as they all get bought up by bots. It really does look like a very good device, but unless Sony says otherwise, it sounds like any games from PSVR1 will not work on PSVR2. Or you'll need all of those accessories too, and that sounds terrible.
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Jan 5, 2022 18:15
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SCheeseman posted:That's a good question, though. Is Beat Saber coming for PSVR2? Even if it does, don't buy beat saber on playstation. Always get the steam version and play on any PCVR headset since more than half the content for beat saber is better served by the modding community, and the standalone Quest mods are not up to parity at all.
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SCheeseman posted:That's a good question, though. Is Beat Saber coming for PSVR2? didn't facebook buy them? don't imagine they'd be willing to port it to their competitors machine
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What are the technical challenges behind fov, out of interest? I'm assuming they're pretty major, since a wide fov is an absolute no-brainer and so far no-one has cracked it.
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Jan 5, 2022 18:48
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Some of the better pimaxes have large fov. I think part of the problem is that the view is curved but the displays are flat so you have to compensate with lenses and software magic.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Hows Beat Saber on PSVR? Not that Sony cant do anything cool, but there is stuff on PCVR that just cant happen on Playstation Idk, 90% of beat saber is garbage music imo, and Audica is the better rhythm game anyway. I’ll still keep my pcvr around for a while for the experimental stuff, but the last two years has shown vr is still a risky financial endeavor, and having a massive publisher/platform holder backing your work is necessary for new content that’s not Indy horror game #19 it seems.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Nicer screens are cool, but the ones we have are fine; all I really care about at this stage is massively increasing the FOV, I would take that over literally any other upgrade. Here ya go! https://twitter.com/sadlyitsbradley/status/1478805994041868291?s=21
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njsykora posted:I wonder if that guy thinks mini LED is some grand new technology and not an established middle ground between LED and OLED. No-one thinks you're crazy saying a headset will use mini LED, it makes perfect sense. I couldn't get a straight answer from a search on what uOLED is though, seems to basically be small OLED screens focused on mobile tech so again, makes perfect sense for a VR headset. Micro OLEDs are just tiny OLED displays, think postage stamp or smaller. Them being smaller than the standard phone displays used today means you need more magnification on the lenses. Regular Fresnel lenses might not be suited for them, so that might be one reason there is so much work coming out on pancake lenses.
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Rectus posted:Micro OLEDs are just tiny OLED displays, think postage stamp or smaller. Micro OLEDS are called 'micro' because the pixels themselves are microscopic (super high pixel density is their main feature), not because the final display has to be of the size of the postage stamp. The actual ones are like that because they are research, or manufacturing samples, and because the current manufacturing limits. But the whole idea is to have in the future microOLEDS of the enough size for big smartphones, and eventually for big tvs, etc. But we are talking many years into the future. Imagine a 60K tv.
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Turin Turambar posted:Micro OLEDS are called 'micro' because the pixels themselves are microscopic (super high pixel density is their main feature), not because the final display has to be of the size of the postage stamp. The actual ones are like that because they are research, or manufacturing samples, and because the current manufacturing limits. But the whole idea is to have in the future microOLEDS of the enough size for big smartphones, and eventually for big tvs, etc. But we are talking many years into the future. Imagine a 60K tv. are microOLEDs and microLEDs the same thing though
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So I am confused. Meta Cambria is releasing later this year. But its not quest 3, and that is coming in 2023? Is meta cambria just like the quest 2 pro then?
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It's wild (and a but weird) to read what current users' desired improvements for VR headsets are. (Like, only 2 hr runtime before recharge is a pain point, FOV, etc) I used to build HMD prototypes in the early 2000s and to me, every single one on the market is amazing. The Quest in particular with what it does, completely wirelessly, is a mind-boggling achievement to me. I kind of feel like an old-school RC aircraft guy, from back when mini gas engines were the only way to get enough power for model aircraft to work. Then the next step in technology happens (high-density lithium-ion batteries -- thanks to the huge cellphone market -- plus brushless motors, and high-power efficient solid-state switching) and then suddenly electric model aircraft are suddenly not only feasible, but a dominant force capable of poo poo that was never even remotely possible before. And heavy users will be all "ugh I feel a bit of control slop on an edge case of formerly-impossible hard acrobatic turns  one star"In short it is a very exciting time 
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The Eyes Have It posted:It's wild (and a but weird) to read what current users' desired improvements for VR headsets are. (Like, only 2 hr runtime before recharge is a pain point, FOV, etc) I used to build HMD prototypes in the early 2000s and to me, every single one on the market is amazing. The Quest in particular with what it does, completely wirelessly, is a mind-boggling achievement to me. The very first time I turned on my Quest 2 (which was also my first time in VR), it blew my mind in a way it hadn't been blown since 3d consoles first came out VR is already quite amazing imo VR is good
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marumaru posted:are microOLEDs and microLEDs the same thing though As far as I know, yeah, sorry for the confusion. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqSNFDRXhBw edit: Facebook... but in VR! Are you hyped? :P 
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anyone else get huge "this is just second life again" vibes from this stupid ~metaverse~ push by big corpos? https://twitter.com/DigitalisHomo/status/1478094074909540354 https://twitter.com/3BodyProblem/status/1478096057607208960 there's no loving way this is going to be successful, right?
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The Eyes Have It posted:It's wild (and a but weird) to read what current users' desired improvements for VR headsets are. (Like, only 2 hr runtime before recharge is a pain point, FOV, etc) I used to build HMD prototypes in the early 2000s and to me, every single one on the market is amazing. The Quest in particular with what it does, completely wirelessly, is a mind-boggling achievement to me. Thank you for this post. I am just starting to research this stuff (not real research, more like what to buy research). This meta (heh) context matters.
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Grocery shopping for real goods in VR by walking around a VR store and putting items in a VR cart is the dumbest goddamn thing in the world.
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marumaru posted:anyone else get huge "this is just second life again" vibes from this stupid ~metaverse~ push by big corpos? No actual people will give a poo poo about or use these, no
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explosivo posted:Grocery shopping for real goods in VR by walking around a VR store and putting items in a VR cart is the dumbest goddamn thing in the world. Can’t wait until I can shop VR Amazon by staffing one of their bin packing booths virtually for 18 hours
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