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Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Barreft posted:

you have good opinions.

e:

Gross, but expected.

hwat

# ? Jan 5, 2022 04:09

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Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Mr E posted:

I'm getting closer to the end of SMT 5 and still mostly loving it, but some of the last area miman, chests, and glory (not that I really need more glory at this point) are in some very annoying to figure out how to get to places. I feel like the "platforming" for the most part is fine but I think it could have decreased if they're also going to make monsters almost 10 levels below me chase me and annoy me.

use a repulse bell

# ? Jan 5, 2022 04:09

Barreft: Jul 21, 2014

Stux posted:

hwat

I know right? Why even put that in there, especially priced 10 times more than a radio, odd.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 04:10

big deal: Sep 10, 2017

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

So, in the opinion of the thread, Metroid Dread is as good as Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey?

better than both for me, but i'm a big time metroid liker.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 04:10

The Anime Liker: Aug 8, 2009; by VideoGames

I'm a huge Metroid fanboy and I'd rank BotW as the #1 game of all time but Dread is definitely up there, like in the top 15 at least.

It's definitely the #2 best Switch game.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 04:22

Mr E: Sep 18, 2007

Stux posted:

use a repulse bell

I forgot those existed, will do that next time I play

# ? Jan 5, 2022 04:50

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

So, in the opinion of the thread, Metroid Dread is as good as Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey?

It sets a new standard for the series while also respecting a lot of what made the previous entries good, so I'd say so, yeah.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 05:21

flavor.flv: Apr 18, 2008; I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches

All three are the peaks of their respective series, no question

# ? Jan 5, 2022 05:44

Your Computer: Oct 3, 2008; Grimey Drawer

flavor.flv posted:

All three are the peaks of their respective series, no question

don't wanna rock the boat here but i'm gonna say it

the switch? good

# ? Jan 5, 2022 05:56

Booky: Feb 21, 2013; Chill Bug

Barreft posted:

I know right? Why even put that in there, especially priced 10 times more than a radio, odd.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 05:57

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

So, in the opinion of the thread, Metroid Dread is as good as Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey?

I'll dissent

It's very good, but it's not that good.

I still think super is the best Metroid followed by prime 1 and THEN dread.

Again, it's very good, but those two games are phenomenal

# ? Jan 5, 2022 05:58

flavor.flv: Apr 18, 2008; I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches

Other switch exclusives that are the peaks of their series:

Monster Hunter Rise

The Great Ace Attorney

Picross S6

Bayonetta 2

And many more!

# ? Jan 5, 2022 06:20

Rodney The Yam II: Mar 3, 2007

I guess we could we could say... The switch is on

E: what else is on? Wizard of Legend, right after Children of Morta

E2: not exclusives but I refused to consider playing them on any other system because switch so good

Rodney The Yam II fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jan 5, 2022

# ? Jan 5, 2022 07:16

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Your Computer posted:

don't wanna rock the boat here but i'm gonna say it

the switch? good

# ? Jan 5, 2022 07:47

Foul Fowl: Sep 12, 2008; Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

Rodney The Yam II posted:

I guess we could we could say... The switch is on

E: what else is on? Wizard of Legend, right after Children of Morta

E2: not exclusives but I refused to consider playing them on any other system because switch so good

i just got wizard of legend because it was like �3.50 in the steam sale, it's a drat good game, though so far really hard. healing is very hard to come by.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 10:53

Len: Jan 21, 2008; Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

So, in the opinion of the thread, Metroid Dread is as good as Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey?

Better because it's fun

# ? Jan 5, 2022 10:57

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

b_d posted:

better than both for me, but i'm a big time metroid liker.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 11:32

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

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Barreft posted:

There's a *lot* of platforming in SMTV's overworld. I'm lvl 40 and 15 hours in and haven't seen a dungeon yet I think?

Oh, this is just precious.

*Me, playing Etrian Odyssey: Weird, 20+ hours in and 10+ levels down, and I haven't seen a single dungeon so far*

# ? Jan 5, 2022 12:01

Chas McGill: Oct 29, 2010; loves Fat Philippe

Is Metroid Dread a good first Metroid to play?

# ? Jan 5, 2022 12:10

Sleng Teng: May 3, 2009

Chas McGill posted:

Is Metroid Dread a good first Metroid to play?

Yes.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 12:14

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Chas McGill posted:

Is Metroid Dread a good first Metroid to play?

Yeah, tho the gba and snes metroids are also good first intros

# ? Jan 5, 2022 12:20

bushisms.txt: May 26, 2004; Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.

Chas McGill posted:

Is Metroid Dread a good first Metroid to play?

I tried the demo first now I'm playing super on NSO to see if that style of game is compelling enough for me to beat it since it's supposed to be just as good.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 13:03

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

Metroid Dread is mostly amazing because the castlevania lords of shadow people made it and it actually turned out GOOD and not awful. It�s been a long time since a good rear end Metroid game. Lord knows it

# ? Jan 5, 2022 13:05

Your Computer: Oct 3, 2008; Grimey Drawer

bushisms.txt posted:

I tried the demo first now I'm playing super on NSO to see if that style of game is compelling enough for me to beat it since it's supposed to be just as good.

super metroid is a lot jankier, it has way worse movement and the worst possible item selection controls

but, y'know... nostalgia

# ? Jan 5, 2022 13:24

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

flavor.flv posted:

All three are the peaks of their respective series, no question

the peak of zelda is links awakening

# ? Jan 5, 2022 14:03

Silver Falcon: Dec 5, 2005; Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Your Computer posted:

super metroid is a lot jankier, it has way worse movement and the worst possible item selection controls

but, y'know... nostalgia

THANK YOU. I'm glad someone said it besides me. I went on a Metroid binge starting with the Prime Trilogy on the Wii U, then went through the 2D Metroids starting with Super and ending with Zero Mission. Super, while very good, I thought was the weakest of the three. Zero Mission is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than it, and Dread blows all the rest of them out of the water so bad it's not even funny.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 14:04

pixaal: Jan 8, 2004; All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.

Your Computer posted:

super metroid is a lot jankier, it has way worse movement and the worst possible item selection controls

but, y'know... nostalgia

I first played through Super Metroid as a not at a friend's house game on the Wii U. It's a good game, I found the screw jump really annoying to pull off and poorly explained in game how to use it. Once you get the movement down it's easy but I got really frustrated and had to watch a youtube video with someone showing me how to time it.

I may also have been drunk when I got the screw attack though.

Anyway game holds up and is a masterpiece, Dread is better though.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 14:22

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Stux posted:

the peak of zelda is links awakening

# ? Jan 5, 2022 14:25

Rodney The Yam II: Mar 3, 2007

Foul Fowl posted:

i just got wizard of legend because it was like £3.50 in the steam sale, it's a drat good game, though so far really hard. healing is very hard to come by.

Yeah, its getting better as I unlock more relics and Arcana to make synergistic builds, ones that are either better at finding heals or better at avoiding damage

Also git gud etc

The game feel is like Hades for the SNES. My only big complaint is the camera in coop mode and the frikkin holes in the map

# ? Jan 5, 2022 14:34

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In SMTV can you have multiple of the same demon in your party or no? It's been a long time since I've played an SMT.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 15:22

Artix: Apr 26, 2010; He's finally back, to kick some tail! And this time, he's goin' to jail!

No. If you attempt to recruit another demon they'll just talk to each other like "yo take care of my boy", and it won't let you fuse a duplicate.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 16:01

Polo-Rican: Jul 4, 2004; emptyquote my posts or die

Silver Falcon posted:

THANK YOU. I'm glad someone said it besides me. I went on a Metroid binge starting with the Prime Trilogy on the Wii U, then went through the 2D Metroids starting with Super and ending with Zero Mission. Super, while very good, I thought was the weakest of the three. Zero Mission is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than it, and Dread blows all the rest of them out of the water so bad it's not even funny.

imho Super would be the best if they remapped the controls for use with modern controllers. once you get used to how it controls it still whips absolute rear end

and Zero Mission would be the best if it were on the switch virtual console! it also whips absolute rear end, but i don't know how i'd play it nowadays beyond emulation

# ? Jan 5, 2022 16:13

Golden Goat: Aug 2, 2012

Artix posted:

No. If you attempt to recruit another demon they'll just talk to each other like "yo take care of my boy", and it won't let you fuse a duplicate.

Just on that they'll always do that and maybe give you money if you chat to them so if you're looking to skip fights just recruit each of the demons you encounter in the area and you can skip battles.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 16:15

Silver Falcon: Dec 5, 2005; Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Polo-Rican posted:

imho Super would be the best if they remapped the controls for use with modern controllers. once you get used to how it controls it still whips absolute rear end

and Zero Mission would be the best if it were on the switch virtual console! it also whips absolute rear end, but i don't know how i'd play it nowadays beyond emulation

I will agree to that. The controls were the most frustrating thing about it. I think I would still put Zero Mission ahead of it, but it'd be closer. Dread would still stomp all over them all, of course.

And yes I wish we had more Metroid on the Switch! Fusion and Zero Mission, both, let's goooooooooooooooo.

And while I did adore Dread, playing it just made me even more excited for Metroid Prime 4. C'moooooooooooooon I want it!

# ? Jan 5, 2022 16:21

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

I fully agree that Dread plays better than any previous Metroid game, and looks very nice. The controls and interface is obviously much more modern.

The reason I still like Super and even OG Metroid so much though is the sense of lonely exploration. It's pretty unique even within the genre it's named for. As big and empty as Hollow Knight feels, for example, there are a lot of other people in there, signs of recent activity, etc. In Metroid and Super Metroid you were alone in some old (but still functional) ruins and caves and whatnot.

In Dread you never really feel alone for several reasons. The "ruins" don't seem ancient and mysterious, they are a working, staffed facility. The Chozo have been demystified. Finally, and I think most importantly, the map is dense but you feel pretty much railroaded from one point of interest to another. Not until the end (when you've already been everywhere important) can you just go where you want. There is no getting lost, which I get can be a benefit to some people, but it doesn't feel very Metroid to me.

It reminds me of the NES game Castlequest that has this gigantic world but had to be packed with a map because there was really only one route through the whole thing:

# ? Jan 5, 2022 16:36

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; 🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I loved the feeling of isolation in Metroid Prime. I've likely said it many times before but the first moment you step out into the phendrana drifts is magical.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 16:57

Silver Falcon: Dec 5, 2005; Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

The Bloop posted:

I fully agree that Dread plays better than any previous Metroid game, and looks very nice. The controls and interface is obviously much more modern.

The reason I still like Super and even OG Metroid so much though is the sense of lonely exploration. It's pretty unique even within the genre it's named for. As big and empty as Hollow Knight feels, for example, there are a lot of other people in there, signs of recent activity, etc. In Metroid and Super Metroid you were alone in some old (but still functional) ruins and caves and whatnot.

In Dread you never really feel alone for several reasons. The "ruins" don't seem ancient and mysterious, they are a working, staffed facility. The Chozo have been demystified. Finally, and I think most importantly, the map is dense but you feel pretty much railroaded from one point of interest to another. Not until the end (when you've already been everywhere important) can you just go where you want. There is no getting lost, which I get can be a benefit to some people, but it doesn't feel very Metroid to me.

It reminds me of the NES game Castlequest that has this gigantic world but had to be packed with a map because there was really only one route through the whole thing:

I see a lot of people going on about getting railroaded from A to B a lot in Dread and never feeling lost.

Did we play the same game? :v:

I never had any particular idea of where to go next in Dread. I just wandered around mashing my face into everything until I stumbled across the way forward, and I was constantly lost. However this is my default state in all video games.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 17:09

LPG Giant: Feb 20, 2011

Silver Falcon posted:

I see a lot of people going on about getting railroaded from A to B a lot in Dread and never feeling lost.

Did we play the same game? I never had any particular idea of where to go next in Dread. I just wandered around mashing my face into everything until I stumbled across the way forward, and I was constantly lost. However this is my default state in all video games.

This video gives a nice summary on how Metroid Dread guided people around without a lot of people noticing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pop-cc9kmY

# ? Jan 5, 2022 17:33

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

The Bloop posted:

I fully agree that Dread plays better than any previous Metroid game, and looks very nice. The controls and interface is obviously much more modern.

The reason I still like Super and even OG Metroid so much though is the sense of lonely exploration. It's pretty unique even within the genre it's named for. As big and empty as Hollow Knight feels, for example, there are a lot of other people in there, signs of recent activity, etc. In Metroid and Super Metroid you were alone in some old (but still functional) ruins and caves and whatnot.

In Dread you never really feel alone for several reasons. The "ruins" don't seem ancient and mysterious, they are a working, staffed facility. The Chozo have been demystified. Finally, and I think most importantly, the map is dense but you feel pretty much railroaded from one point of interest to another. Not until the end (when you've already been everywhere important) can you just go where you want. There is no getting lost, which I get can be a benefit to some people, but it doesn't feel very Metroid to me.

It reminds me of the NES game Castlequest that has this gigantic world but had to be packed with a map because there was really only one route through the whole thing:

you didnt explore enought hen because you can certainly get around and sequence break like super metroid.

# ? Jan 5, 2022 17:42

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Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

Metroid Dread is so good

# ? Jan 5, 2022 17:46

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