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Bust Rodd posted:it’s pretty scary when you realize that our healthcare infrastructure is literally not designed to help everyone and it’s fraying and cracking at the seams right now and there is literally no indication that it’s going to get any better! the usa had 133,000 fewer cases yesterday than the day before — at this pace we should be down to zero cases in a week...... we are going to beat this
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Bust Rodd posted:it’s pretty scary when you realize that our healthcare infrastructure is literally not designed to help everyone and it’s fraying and cracking at the seams right now and there is literally no indication that it’s going to get any better! A major problem nursing is facing right now is that they can’t -make- enough nurses to deal, even though there’s more people than ever now that want to get into the field. Nursing educators don’t make too much more than nurses do despite requiring graduate level education, and if they’re going for higher education then most people would rather go for their NP or CRNA and make much, much more money. Another entirely systemic issue that’s contributing to things, essentially.
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Bust Rodd posted:it’s pretty scary when you realize that our healthcare infrastructure is literally not designed to help everyone and it’s fraying and cracking at the seams right now and there is literally no indication that it’s going to get any better! The last time I saw it come up, the estimate was that we're missing about half of the general practitioners and family medicine doctors we would need to meet the demand of a free at point of service m4a type of system, if you waved a wand and implemented it, with similar shortfalls for nursing staff, hospital and clinic space, technicians, etc What that says to me is that, despite now accounting for something like a sixth of our GDP and rising, medicine is severely, severely understaffed and undersupported for the public's needs, and only barely manages to handle what it already does by cutting the accessibility of medical care (lol) off to around half the country This was all pre-pandemic of course, I'm sure it's much worse now. They already needed to be minting new doctors and nurses and building new hospitals like crazy, years ago
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Cloks posted:no, i disagree with the "wear a mask if other people are, don't if they aren't" and "wearing a mask is dumb because you just take it off when you eat at a restaurant" parts The first is just recognizing futility because we’ve been told over and over that wearing a mask is for the benefit of other people and if nobody else is wearing one then what’s the point? The latter, come on, you have to see how this is entirely performative and meaningless, right? Wear your mask into the restaurant and take it off as soon as a glass of water is set in front of you? I say this as a person who always masks even when I’m in places where nobody else does. But I can recognize why it comes across as futile or performative
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HashtagGirlboss posted:The first is just recognizing futility because we’ve been told over and over that wearing a mask is for the benefit of other people and if nobody else is wearing one then what’s the point? but wearing a mask isn't just for the benefit of other people and you don't have to go to restaurants
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Cloks posted:but wearing a mask isn't just for the benefit of other people and you don't have to go to restaurants whatever protection against covid is provided by a mask is reduced by taking it off and on a dozen times to eat while you're on an airplane. that's what they were saying, not that "masks are dumb."
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Cloks posted:but wearing a mask isn't just for the benefit of other people and you don't have to go to restaurants Sure. But everyone else is going to restaurants and it doesn’t matter at all if you do or don’t. I mean like I said I wear a mask. But I’m not going to look down on anyone who looks around them and sees everyone else in the world acting like Covid is over and says gently caress it. Same way I don’t climate shame people for taking airplane trips or driving gasoline automobiles. At some point even well intentioned people just give up
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:the usa had 133,000 fewer cases yesterday than the day before — at this pace we should be down to zero cases in a week...... we are going to beat this What the gently caress happens when we hit negative cases?
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:whatever protection against covid is provided by a mask is reduced by taking it off and on a dozen times to eat while you're on an airplane. that's what they were saying, not that "masks are dumb." Nah. He outright said he wears a mask when he’s places where people wear them and doesn’t when he’s places they don’t. That was before the airplane stuff
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Sure. But everyone else is going to restaurants and it doesn’t matter at all if you do or don’t. I mean like I said I wear a mask. But I’m not going to look down on anyone who looks around them and sees everyone else in the world acting like Covid is over and says gently caress it. Same way I don’t climate shame people for taking airplane trips or driving gasoline automobiles. At some point even well intentioned people just give up It does matter if you don't want to get Covid
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i don't think continuing this discussion is going to be productive but i completely understand the exhaustion with the government's inane regulations designed to bolster capital instead of protecting people ultimately it seems like we're stuck with covid now and it sucks, it's just one more way that the powers that be have decided that there's an acceptable class of people to throw into mammon's gaping maw
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Gripweed posted:What the gently caress happens when we hit negative cases? We put the virus ON TRIAL
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pretty sure airplanes are actually fairly safe and ventilated —— you're probably safer there being masked and scarfing down a snack/drinking something a for a few minutes than you are eating in a restaurant (or at the airport) otoh last time i flew the were two unmasked people in line for security (the only unmasked ones in line) who were loudly talking about how they leave food on their tray table so they can pretend they're eating whenever a flight attendant walks by so they can fly maskless the entire time. they slipped their masks on right before going through security then immediately took them off after getting past imo require vaccines for flights seems like a no brainer
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Cloks posted:i don't think continuing this discussion is going to be productive but i completely understand the exhaustion with the government's inane regulations designed to bolster capital instead of protecting people Yeah. This is my point I think. I can take care of myself but at this point it’s entirely pointless to worry about anyone else. The overall response would have needed to be different for it to matter Gripweed posted:It does matter if you don't want to get Covid Indeed. That’s why I don’t go to bars/restaurants without outdoor seating and why I wear a mask even when others don’t. But beyond that, what can I do, I can’t make everyone else make that same decision and I guess I don’t hold it against people who have just decided gently caress it all
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Gripweed posted:What the gently caress happens when we hit negative cases? The Third Impact
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Cloks posted:no, i disagree with the "wear a mask if other people are, don't if they aren't" and "wearing a mask is dumb because you just take it off when you eat at a restaurant" parts ur the scold dude was lamenting
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Gripweed posted:What the gently caress happens when we hit negative cases? Checkmate.
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Centrist Committee posted:ur the scold dude was lamenting yes and he's an idiot for saying that
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Goa Tse-tung posted:yes and he's an idiot for saying that I hope you drive an EV, eat vegan, and refuse to eat Nestle products.
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shocking lack of respect for our healthcare hero veterans in this thread
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Gripweed posted:What the gently caress happens when we hit negative cases? a giant confetti ball cracks open and everyone smiles and cheers that we've finally beaten the virus
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Cloks posted:e: n/m Hahaha gently caress that’d be a good gimmick someone should do even if you’re not going to do it
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:now that being said, Felix has absolutely been a huge baby about the 'wearing a mask at the gym' thing, dude you make enough money to have someone come to your apartment and assemble a home gym for you lmao Felix is basically like if you took me during the most blessed time of my life, made it 10x as blessed, and had it continue for my entire adulthood instead of just lasting like 1-2 years in my early 20s. When your life is full of pleasures, you feel the denial of those pleasures more acutely. Felix has more self-awareness about it than most, but the fundamental circumstances are still the same.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:yes and he's an idiot for saying that ur being the scold dude was lamenting
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Popy posted:is this a bit I listened to the whole thing and i shouldn't have called him an idiot. I'm sure he's a fine guy. Just came off as a bit vax hesitant to me in the beginning and I found it off putting.
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mcmagic posted:I listened to the whole thing and i shouldn't have called him an idiot. I'm sure he's a fine guy. Just came off as a bit vax hesitant to me in the beginning and I found it off putting. I don’t get this at all. Like the mask thing I get because he said some stuff about masks, but right from the gate he was talking about how nobody who was vaxxed got intubated and only one guy with a lot of comorbidities even got close and idk how you take that as anything except pro-vaxx?
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I don’t get this at all. Like the mask thing I get because he said some stuff about masks, but right from the gate he was talking about how nobody who was vaxxed got intubated and only one guy with a lot of comorbidities even got close and idk how you take that as anything except pro-vaxx? mcmagic is literally one of the dumbest fuckers in the forums
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but on the other hand, they're also the C-SPAM 2021 "Most Improved" Award recipient
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:but on the other hand, they're also the C-SPAM 2021 "Most Improved" Award recipient https://mobile.twitter.com/usatoday/status/1458805714416242693?lang=en
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:but on the other hand, they're also the C-SPAM 2021 "Most Improved" Award recipient Really? Do i get a plaque or something?
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Xaris posted:mcmagic is literally one of the dumbest fuckers in the forums He's no D&D poster.
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Cloks posted:it's funny that they dithered around any real recommendations for dealing with covid when those have been the same since day one very many people whose jobs are not touching computers from their living room are forced to be in contact with other people every day in order to survive, and the government has consciously decided to stop giving them money to stay home, idiot? bitch?
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the bitcoin of weed posted:very many people whose jobs are not touching computers from their living room are forced to be in contact with other people every day in order to survive, and the government has consciously decided to stop giving them money to stay home, idiot? bitch? don't sign your posts
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I just listened to the app and i don't know how anyone could come away from this thinking that he is anti vax or "vax hesitant". lol
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I don’t get this at all. Like the mask thing I get because he said some stuff about masks, but right from the gate he was talking about how nobody who was vaxxed got intubated and only one guy with a lot of comorbidities even got close and idk how you take that as anything except pro-vaxx? they are probably thinking of how he said he understood some initial skepticism/reluctance from other nurses as the first population to be vaxxed in Dec 2020. too much nuance for your average cspam poster
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the bitcoin of weed posted:very many people whose jobs are not touching computers from their living room are forced to be in contact with other people every day in order to survive, and the government has consciously decided to stop giving them money to stay home, idiot? bitch? you're right though and it's unconscionable unfortunately, pointing out that I'm a bitchmade idiot doesn't change how covid works
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