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Xaris posted:cheap subsidized fossil fuels is the divine right to rule for governments and can't go away. the guild will allow you the president's office, but remember: the oil *must* flow
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Jan 5, 2022 21:19
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FFT posted:Rime's post as referenced on this page
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Jan 5, 2022 21:40
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:i remember reading something a while back, in this thread or the doomsday economics thread (lol they're all the same), about oil/fossil fuels being the currency of the world, not the dollar, not gold Good news, that is about to change! Soon, water will be the currency of the world.
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Jan 5, 2022 21:43
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Good news, that is about to change! Soon, water will be the currency of the world. How fun you think it will be for the people who live in a country with thousands of freshwater lakes and endless rains/snowfalls year round...?
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Jan 5, 2022 21:45
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Good news, that is about to change! Soon, water will be the currency of the world. Cool now Nestlé owns all of us.
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Jan 5, 2022 21:48
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DesertIslandHermit posted:Cool now Nestlé sustains all of us.
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Jan 5, 2022 21:52
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Good news, that is about to change! Soon, water will be the currency of the world.  but no even in jest, it still won't be. the thing about water is it's actually a bitch to transport for how much you actually consume and requires massive energy input to move. so to trade it you require oil. now in a world where oil is far more abundant than usable water, i.e. we discover another 500000 trillion gallons of oil somewhere, then we would prob just put that energy to carving up antarctica and shipping it back in bunker fuel megafreighters with freezer cargo containers.
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Jan 5, 2022 21:54
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Xaris posted:that's why i've invested half my savings into water ETF stocks goddamn they really would use freezer containers even though water takes less volume than ice
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Jan 5, 2022 21:56
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:i remember reading something a while back, in this thread or the doomsday economics thread (lol they're all the same), about oil/fossil fuels being the currency of the world, not the dollar, not gold Search for EROEI and it will probably turn up in the first page or two
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Jan 5, 2022 21:56
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Complications posted:the guild will allow you the president's office, but remember: the oil *must* flow Almost as if Herbert were hinting at that in his book, hey
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Jan 5, 2022 21:57
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so which country is going into kazakhstan first to steal all the uranusum
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Jan 5, 2022 21:59
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Tempora Mutantur posted:goddamn they really would use freezer containers even though water takes less volume than ice
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Jan 5, 2022 21:59
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Good news, that is about to change! Soon, water will be the currency of the world.
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Jan 5, 2022 21:59
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pissinthewind posted:so which country is going into kazakhstan first to steal all the uranusum China's Road to Kazakhstan gets proposed and America tries to organize a coup that somehow gets Sacha Baron Cohen roped up into it and then violent breaks out in a couple years when it goes off and everyone finds out America did it.
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Jan 5, 2022 22:01
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I would imagine Russia wasn't too shocked this occurred and perhaps had a plan
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Jan 5, 2022 22:02
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who would have thunk that a member of opec would implode because oil and food prices became untenable basically we're looking at a sneak peak of the near future, and I feel that the doomsday economics thread and this one are increasingly going to cross over
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Jan 5, 2022 22:10
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A Bakers Cousin posted:I would imagine Russia wasn't too shocked this occurred and perhaps had a plan Putin things in perspective here
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Jan 5, 2022 22:10
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now that everyone seems to be on board for seeing energy, materials, and other resources as the ur-commodity that makes everything possible, here's a cursory look at the basic tenets of neoclassical vs. ecological / biophysical economics   - and it's almost as if access to the resources of central asia + the caspian region have quietly shaped american foreign policy over the past two decades now 
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Jan 5, 2022 22:10
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Jel Shaker posted:who would have thunk that a member of opec would implode because oil and food prices became untenable What, Kazakhstan is in OPEC? Whoah, I guess it is.
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Jan 5, 2022 22:11
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Enfys posted:There was at least some initial attention on the climate change aspect of the fire. My sister lives in Boulder, and it's so pleasant and beautiful that we considered moving out there from the east coast. I gave up on that idea maybe 5 years ago, mostly because the wildfires have gotten worse each year. This latest fire is the scariest and closest one yet, but even still, Boulder has spent the past 5 summers or so under almost constant air quality warnings due to various fires raging in the Rockies, and it's clear that it's only going to get worse as time goes on. Even if these towns don't burn down, their residents are doomed to spend half their lives breathing smoke.
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Jan 5, 2022 22:14
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Xaris posted:in case anyone hasn't been watching, much of Kazakhstan government resigned or forced out today as the country is in turmoil over fuel prices doubling and energy shortages. broadband is down across the whole country. billionaires including the presidents daughter have fled Got-drat. They are not loving around. Like, I don't know much about the place and with the net blackout, I'm not going to find out soon, but I have a feeling there's more to it than just a fuel price hike if people go from 0 to armed uprising like this. My bet is someone else wants to be the ruler.
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Jan 5, 2022 22:30
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https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/1478840433002254337
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Jan 5, 2022 23:08
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skooma512 posted:Got-drat. They are not loving around. Yeah, the Kazakh
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Jan 5, 2022 23:10
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skooma512 posted:Got-drat. They are not loving around. well there's been energy shortages (due to fuel), and fuel costs have gone way up. to be more specific, a year or so ago the government announced that they would remove the lng price cap and transition to a "free-market based system of exchange" where the free market would dictate the lng price. predictably this is a visible thing and made poo poo explode because now its all being exported to europe n poo poo for far more money than being sold domestically. obviously people are going to instantly get mad if thing they had still exists but they see all of it going to uk instead of when they had it Nazarbayev was the only president up until recently but still controlled basically a shadow government and tokayev was his handpicked successor who seems to be trying to get out from nazar. but that's mostly tertiary compared to material realities of energy that is spurring unrest
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Jan 5, 2022 23:16
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skooma512 posted:Got-drat. They are not loving around. something like 18% of the world bitcoin network hashrate is in kazakhstan, I guess a spike in fuel costs could be related to unrest maybe?
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Jan 5, 2022 23:44
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skooma512 posted:Got-drat. They are not loving around. Kzakhstan is a dysfunctional failed state where most of the population lives in crippling poverty, the infrastructure is largely decrepit soviet-era remnants, it enjoyed a dictatorship for 30 years with a ruling family which bled the nation dry, and an oligarchy comprised of that families friends and lackeys mopped up whatever was left. There isn't much surprise here, every population has a breaking point as to how hard you can squeeze it. We've seen this play out time and again in the post-soviet states.
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Jan 5, 2022 23:59
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just burn it stupid
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Jan 6, 2022 00:01
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 Sorry everyone, had to start eating my disaster beans
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Jan 6, 2022 00:26
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i like how it's accelerating
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Jan 6, 2022 00:30
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So what are the odds of the sun being occluded permanently by water vapor now guys? The venus scenario?
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Jan 6, 2022 00:32
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petit choux posted:So what are the odds of the sun being occluded permanently by water vapor now guys? The venus scenario? 
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Jan 6, 2022 00:42
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:i like how it's accelerating  that was a "pandemic year" too.
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Jan 6, 2022 00:46
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petit choux posted:So what are the odds of the sun being occluded permanently by water vapor now guys? The venus scenario? you have to sit through the period of no clouds first
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Jan 6, 2022 00:48
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Xaris posted:a lot too why was it leveling off at 2003?
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Jan 6, 2022 00:52
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Radirot posted:why was it leveling off at 2003? nasa has a good global view of methane https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/87681/a-global-view-of-methane this paper talks more about commentary about the trend of stabilization https://www.pnas.org/content/116/8/2805  the tl;dr is no one really knows but there's speculation in it. the rise in later 2000s seems to be heavily fracking-driven but also we're now at the point that permafrost is just melting and methane sinks are popping off on their own so it's probably both Xaris has issued a correction as of 01:07 on Jan 6, 2022 |
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Jan 6, 2022 01:02
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Radirot posted:why was it leveling off at 2003? I'd expect that it's because Iraq's oil wells were thoroughly out of commission for a while.
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Jan 6, 2022 01:05
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Here, this ought to take care of things https://twitter.com/Greenpeace/status/1478652509740695558
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Jan 6, 2022 01:47
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Basic Poster posted:Here, this ought to take care of things loving. Girl. Boss. *Blue wave emoji*
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Jan 6, 2022 01:58
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I especially like how Shell, BP etc can just stand back up and kick the poo poo out of the rest of the world because their protest didn't actually do anything meaningful
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The pedo king needs to keep the fresh meat coming https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59884801 quote:Pope Francis has suggested people who choose to have pets over children are acting selfishly.
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