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30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Michael Hudson said something at the end of the new episode about Bitcoin that I hadn't heard before, but which makes perfect sense. Established financial firms are getting into bitcoin because they're betting on crime being the real growth industry - and the more drug trading & etc., there is the more demand there will be for cryptocoin. So everybody has to buy in now to cash in on the wave of crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waBUeS4ZS8&t=108s

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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
yeah that was a pretty hot take to slide in at the end of the episode. they should have him on more often.

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Michael Hudson said something at the end of the new episode about Bitcoin that I hadn't heard before, but which makes perfect sense. Established financial firms are getting into bitcoin because they're betting on crime being the real growth industry - and the more drug trading & etc., there is the more demand there will be for cryptocoin. So everybody has to buy in now to cash in on the wave of crime.

:crackping:

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I don't think we can know anything, really. Like, how are you going to FOIA a document that doesn't officially exist? It took the Bolsheviks seizing Russian archives for the world to find out about the secret treaties around WW1.

I'm actually the guy in charge of Latvia, but you didn't hear this from me

Not a lot of work tbh. Every couple weeks I just call up some fellas and ask if things are doing okay

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1478904773441208322

... Ben's right

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


KomradeX posted:

HBomberGuy is one of the few people who didn't bitch out and tell people to vote for liberals.

To bad his Facebook group is filled with people that do that and swallow State Department bullshit on face value

Shaun was also really negative wrt to Biden, to the point where Lindsay Ellis bitched about how unserious he was taking this all

https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1323293972161269764?t=QYelYLi4JnsAo_5BsAIPsw&s=19
https://twitter.com/thelindsayellis/status/1323527419853037574?t=d1g8TdIkT9OEbCXltXgD6w&s=19

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER


this doesn't smell like a colour revolution to me. there's no airbrushed opposition candidate to call for elections, actual ferocious violence and very spotty news coverage. i'd guess that this is a genuine insurrection in an Enemy Country so the NYT et al are sort of opportunistically supporting it

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.
American's decaying intelligence apparatus still has all the resources in the world but lost their ability to win reliable power in puppet governments. Or, at least, they no longer have the capacity to look more than a couple years in advance, since global influence is falling apart yesterday. Their backs are against the wall. A color revolution would require agents, ideological programming, influence peddling, promised deals, all the while navigating between the Russian and Chinese intelligence. Too much work, not enough time, and no guarantee this political movement you helped create will keep their promises and stay allied with you.
So instead, just arm and send money to all the freaks that will sow chaos and destabilize the region.

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

They can’t see liberalism to countries that aren’t already bought in, but they can send thugs and empower local thugs. They can’t make a revolution out of whole cloth, but can magnify actual grievances and revolts.

See also:proud boys in Hong Kong.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Would be funny if bitcoin mining was being used as a straightforward way of creating energy crises in target governments, and that was secretly a key contributor to china banning it.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Like what if bitcoin is still going not despite the environmental impacts but because of them.

E: oh sorry this hadn't been linked here yet-

https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1478993089507168256

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

bitcoin topples governments

no not like that

ErrorInvalidUser
Aug 23, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grayzone Appreciation Thread, page 2 of c-spam

ErrorInvalidUser
Aug 23, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

mega boring, race to the top, ?

ErrorInvalidUser
Aug 23, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

They can’t see liberalism to countries that aren’t already bought in, but they can send thugs and empower local thugs. They can’t make a revolution out of whole cloth, but can magnify actual grievances and revolts.

See also:proud boys in Hong Kong.

watch me march my army in your country

ErrorInvalidUser
Aug 23, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ErrorInvalidUser posted:

watch me march my army in your country

and this is a problem

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1480571453644943367

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)

https://twitter.com/tobbinatorscw/status/1480898568349224960?s=20
https://twitter.com/tobbinatorscw/status/1480901075527942146?s=20

https://twitter.com/BoatWorlds/status/1480960060541083653?s=20

e: this whole thread is about The Grayzone

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 10:10 on Jan 12, 2022

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I'm all the evidence of this

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)

Nicolas Maduro, if you are reading this thread: I will say anything you want for half the price of The Grayzone.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
isn't max's family loaded and can comfortably pay for all of this

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Biden loving things up again go figure

night slime
May 14, 2014

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

e: this whole thread is about The Grayzone
This whole thing sounds terrifying...A wave of "dark money" went to a news website that produces 5-10 articles a month. Is anyone going to stop them?

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Incredible that talking about how cuba would be better off if someone were to do something about their government is just chattin bout politics, but talking about how china is not actually doing holocaust 2 is deeply dangerous discourse

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

if Bob Avakian is an op theyre wasting their money lol

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1482488617729671168?t=UW9PEIYtdLMNPGG6B_SieA&s=19

Ben's right

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
I mean we knew it too. People just started making and selling cloth masks on their own because it was literally all we could do, and then when they got popular, the spread seemed to slow so considering that they worked, everyone started acting like they were real PPE.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)

eSports Chaebol posted:

if Bob Avakian is an op theyre wasting their money lol

Lyndon LaRouche was a deep state asset so it's not that weird. LaRouche was getting money to have his goons beat up other leftist demonstrators, and something like the RCP is worth keeping on the payroll because they're directing people to waste their revolutionary energies. It probably wouldn't even be that expensive if you only have to buy out one guy at the top.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)


They've also had two whole years to develop a capacity for producing PPE and instead have done nothing. They left everything up to market demand and the market is still underproducing.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

e: this whole thread is about The Grayzone

I think it's mostly about Vijay Prashad and the People's Forum in NYC

eSports Chaebol posted:

if Bob Avakian is an op theyre wasting their money lol

RCP was pro-Hong Kong protests

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They've also had two whole years to develop a capacity for producing PPE and instead have done nothing. They left everything up to market demand and the market is still underproducing.

I don't know how you can look at it other than the government pretty much telling you to go die.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://mobile.twitter.com/arictoler/status/1478419503226703884

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)

Your death is not the government's problem. Which I suppose has always been true, but now it's true with an exclamation point!

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Atrocious Joe posted:

RCP was pro-Hong Kong protests

lmfao

night slime
May 14, 2014

I am excited for this opportunity to put on a Cerebro helmet and browse Google Images

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

night slime posted:

I am excited for this opportunity to put on a Cerebro helmet and browse Google Images

why pay for a writer for content that you get from reddit for free

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

I find it amusing that publicly inventing/denying/whitewashing/misattributing various war crimes in Syria pays less than writing javascript


e: also pretty funny that the CIA cutout is using european labor protections to try to attract talent

Clark Nova has issued a correction as of 18:12 on Jan 16, 2022

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Excellent news. The fact that this could involve China means this could rapidly over the decade erode the American petrodollar. https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1482727764511895557

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol

https://twitter.com/declassifiedUK/status/1483033909512318977?t=hOzDXlI2iVF58KF85JCBIw&s=19

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1483036829381234694?t=cdlm_tDJquN9WB1E505vqw&s=19

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